A.J. Franzman Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 It turns out I have two Light-Sixers. I had always assumed my six switch VCS was a Heavy-Sixer because it reads "Sunnyvale" on the bottom, but the plastic molding is like the Light-Sixer. It's also much heavier than my Four-Switcher and Vader. But I was mistaken, unless Sunnyvale produced heavy internal units with the later molding. That seems unlikely. Actually, the internals of the heavy sixers and light sixers are nearly indistinguishable from one another, and completely interchangeable -- except that the earliest version of the interconnect cable from the motherboard to the switchboard used connectors of the opposite gender, so if you only wanted to swap one of the boards, you might have a problem. The heavy sixer is about a half a pound (~250 g) heavier than the light sixer, simply because its case bottom is much thicker. Sounds like heavy sixers to me. I didnt know any ones but heavys were made in sunnyvale. You can see on the wood grain panel, the corners of the black case have a very nice radius on the heavy sixers. (to the right of the atari logo on an atari model) The light and 4 switch models have much less of a radius. This site and some others are responsible for perpetuating the misconception that "Sunnyvale" = "Heavy Sixer". It may be decades before that myth fades away, or it may never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 This site and some others are responsible for perpetuating the misconception that "Sunnyvale" = "Heavy Sixer". It may be decades before that myth fades away, or it may never happen. It's the same for its inverse--"Heavy Sixer" = "Sunnyvale". I'm amazed by the resilience of these two misconceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Sorry for starting with a question, but does anyone know if the heavy sixers can with a BOXED Combat or was it loose? I always assumed Combat was boxed, but with all the cardboard packing for joysticks and paddles, I'm starting to wonder if it was packed loose inside the section that contained the power supply and TV adapter. I'm going to start another thread to see if we can document the contents of boxed heavy sixers. I have several boxed and loose systems that I'll add serial numbers as I uncover them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Sorry for starting with a question, but does anyone know if the heavy sixers can with a BOXED Combat or was it loose? I always assumed Combat was boxed, but with all the cardboard packing for joysticks and paddles, I'm starting to wonder if it was packed loose inside the section that contained the power supply and TV adapter. I'm going to start another thread to see if we can document the contents of boxed heavy sixers. I have several boxed and loose systems that I'll add serial numbers as I uncover them. I believe that the Combat gatefold box was put on the top of the H6er! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Franzman Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 (edited) Iwan is correct, the cardboard flap that held the console in place in the insert to the large box, left space on top of the console for a complete boxed copy of Combat. Edited September 17, 2010 by A.J. Franzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Dug out the last few: Woody: Sunnyvale 94825 G, no switch or hole for it, functional Sears: Sunnyvale 73465 R, no switch or hole for it, functional Sears: Sunnyvale 76842 S, no switch or hole for it, functional Sears: Sunnyvale 47591 U, has switch, no hole for it, functional(I replaced switchboard with new one because traces were lifted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eegad Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Picked up a 2nd heavy sixer on ebay last week for $30. Turned out to be a beautiful machine (I was shocked cuz it was hard to tell form the photo) - the case looks like new...no dings or scratches; the orange paint line around the switches/slot is pristine, control switches all feel very tight. Came with the original gray power supply; original style joysticks (one works fine, the other has a broken spring on the "left" direction); original paddles (left works perfect, right has some chatter in it)....plus steering controllers and 23 assorted games (3 that I didn't already have). Plays perfect, video quality is the best of my four 2600's. Serial # on bottom sticker is 60159F. Has speaker holes in grill. No channel select cutout. Didn't open up to check for date code sticker inside. Wondering - has anybody correlated date code stickers to serial #'s, so that we can basically guess that such and such a serial # equals a certain week/month of production?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eegad Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Serial # on bottom sticker is 60159F. Has speaker holes in grill. No channel select cutout. ---------- update: decided to crack it open. sticker on rf shield reads: CA010410 27357726 So- end of june / beginning of july 1977? also - paper taped to main board metal shield has 99 32400090. # on it. Has anybody figured out what that means?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAtarian Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) I have what I believe to be a Taiwan heavy. It's the old woodgrain six switch, but it weighs a ton compared to my Darth Vader. I'll have to dig it out for the serial number. I was told heavy's were only made in Sunnyvale so my six switch shouldn't weigh any more than my Darth Vader but obviously that isn't true. Someone also mentioned something to me about the thick rubber grommet around the RF cable but I don't remember what that had to do with it being a heavy or not. Ok here it is T0009603 Edited September 30, 2010 by OldAtarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Franzman Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) I was told heavy's were only made in Sunnyvale so my six switch shouldn't weigh any more than my Darth Vader but obviously that isn't true. Someone also mentioned something to me about the thick rubber grommet around the RF cable but I don't remember what that had to do with it being a heavy or not. You're mistaken about the weight. All sixers weigh more than 4-switchers. From heaviest to lightest: H6 > L6 > 4sw > Jr. I believe you're correct about the grommet though - only heavy sixers have it. And if anyone has a heavy sixer that's missing it, I wish you good luck finding a replacement. Some years ago I tried to find one online, and apparently they aren't made in those dimensions anymore. Edited September 30, 2010 by A.J. Franzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Just got another one: Sears H6er, no switch- 78428 R Came with 2 cx-10's, fully functional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAtarian Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I don't have it in hand yet, but I got a Sears 6 switch recently. I don't know the serial or if it's a heavy or not but it has the Dimerco label or whatever the company is. Did Dimerco make heavy's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Franzman Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I got a Sears 6 switch recently. I don't know ... if it's a heavy or not See the image at the top of post #2 of this topic. The heavy sixer has unique features that can be identified from almost any angle, given a reasonably clear photo. The straight-on front view or front/above is merely the most commonly shown, which has a very obvious feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookem Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Neat to see this thread still going! My H6er's are still happily sitting in my collection, 5+ years after I posted the serials on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianoid Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 What do you guys think of this serial number? I haven't looked at the thread, but it has no letter. The unit has some edge wear, and I'm throwing it on eBay since it's a spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 What do you guys think of this serial number? I haven't looked at the thread, but it has no letter. The unit has some edge wear, and I'm throwing it on eBay since it's a spare. Those foil stickers indicate serviced or refurb units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Found yet another one. Sears Sunnyvale 58503 S No switch or hole for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderFist Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I got a heavy sixer of my own today for only $40, but the label with the serial number is gone. I assume it would be affixed to the bottom. There's a 401 on the bottom, but that's all the identifier I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrThielegood Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hey All, Just picked up a Sears Telegames Sixer (Boxed with everything but "Target Fun")in beautiful shape. White Sunnyvale Label Ser #: 60143U It has the cutout for a channel Switch but no switch. Cheers Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Just got another one: Sears H6er, no switch- 78428 R Came with 2 cx-10's, fully functional. A little late making this reply but, zylon I love those sears units. Thats a nice one right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAtarian Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) Just picked up a Sears heavy but will have to post back with the serial when it gets here. Definitely a Sunnyvale, though. Gray power supply, says Sears where it would have the Atari logo on the paddles if it was an Atari Sunnyvale heavy and the joysticks don't say "TOP" on them. A nice companion for the Sears light sixer I got recently. Edited October 11, 2010 by OldAtarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAtarian Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I have a Sunnyvale PAL light sixer. It did have heavy sixer guts, but I had to replace the guts as it was not working properly. I have attached a scan of the serial number. What's the 289 etched into the plastic above the sticker mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAtarian Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) To use one of A.J.'s previous statements reworked for this thread: "I take it your answers are assembled very slapdash with no fact checking whatsoever." AFAIK, only heavy sixers had the slots open. By the time the case bottom was updated to "light" sixer style, the mold for the top had already been reworked to close the slots. 936820[/snapback] No, there are light sixers with the speaker slots as well. They just normally don't have the posts inside. The light sixer runs are basicly all a mishmash of revisions, some with various sixer legacies. I actually have a light sixer that has one speaker hole and the nubs of two posts. And in the other heavy sixer thread - Would there possibly be a date of manufacture printed on the circuit board? 935828[/snapback] Nope. Just a revision number. There may be date codes on the ICs, but those only get you to "built after ..." range, with no indication of how long after. 936056[/snapback] Not true. My Taiwan Sears light sixer has the speaker holes. I thought my Taiwan heavy didn't at first but it just needed a good dusting off to make them visible. Edited October 11, 2010 by OldAtarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Just got another one: Sears H6er, no switch- 78428 R Came with 2 cx-10's, fully functional. A little late making this reply but, zylon I love those sears units. Thats a nice one right there. I give 'em a good home. Hate to see all those Sears Ataris going homeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAtarian Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Got another one today Atari 95204E No channel selector or cut out for one. What is the letter at the end? A production run? Edited October 13, 2010 by OldAtarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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