PeterG Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I've got an ST,that's where I first played it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Yep, I first played it on an Atari ST as well. I've still got (multiple) ST's and the game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Darrin9999 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Mine should be waiting at my doorstep today! Edit: It Arrived.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 An ST. The game was first developed on an ST! Unfortunately not, it was Amigergh. Watch this really nice interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxrkIC7m-_M He shows the tools he wrote in GFA on Amiga, mentions the "nice Amiga environment" etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 It almost looks like it was both - check out the wiki entry: In August 1989, Chahi was impressed by the flat-color animations that the Amiga version of Dragon's Lair had and thought that it would be possible to use vector outlines to create a similar effect using much less computer storage. After first attempting to write the graphical routines in C, he turned to assembly language. He wrote a polygon routine for the Motorola 68000 on an Atari ST to test his theory, with much success. Later, he found that he could run the code on the Amiga platform and achieve a frame rate of about 20 frames per second, later recognizing this as "a major turning point in the creation of the game" and the point where he knew the polygon approach would work.[10] He was able to take advantage of the Amiga's genlock capabilities to create rotoscoped animations with the polygons, using video recordings of himself performing various actions. Though he had tried to use smaller polygons (which Chahi called "pixigons") to construct the backgrounds for the scenes based on Deluxe Paint artwork, the process of creating them was excruciatingly slow, and he returned to using bitmapped images.[10][11] Interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Reads more like if he'd stuck with the ST the game wouldn't have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 But. It's. There. Seriously, this isn't going to devolve into another Atari vs Amiga thread right? Right! So I'm just gonna say how much I'm looking forward to this game and (re)playing it on my Jaguar after playing it first on my ST. Go Jaguar! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Darrin9999 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 It Arrived! pic on post #453 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NML32 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Mine arrived today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebRmv Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 is it true that the game runs in higher resolution like 640x420?? As said, by sh3-rg, the resolution of the game is 320x200 in 256 colors. And actually, the game engine needs four screen buffers in memory. Remember also that for the deluxe version, the background images are bitmap --not vectorial-- images. It was tricky to make all these data fit in 4MB (the backgrounds are decompressed on the fly as they are needed). I have just worked out a 640x400 version of Another World ! Everything seems to work well, except that I have no clue for the moment on how to make fit all the data in a 4MB cartridge (I think I would need about 8MB). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Great! Everything seems to work well, except that I have no clue for the moment on how to make fit all the data in a 4MB cartridgeUse the 320x200 pictures and enlarge them to 640x400 using hq2x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebRmv Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Great! Use the 320x200 pictures and enlarge them to 640x400 using hq2x By the way, thanks for your work on interlacing For the moment, I implemented the naive way to enlarge the pictures. I'll definitely have a look at these algorithms, thanks for the reference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SabertoothRetro Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Got mine today. I can't wait to pop this in and try deluxe mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 What a bargain! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atari-Jaguar-Another-World-/301049562712?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item4617f3c658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 What a moron. If he waits another year or two he'll get 4x as much What a bargain! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atari-Jaguar-Another-World-/301049562712?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item4617f3c658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Another here: http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=141146622676 Edited December 22, 2013 by Hyper_Eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
108 Stars Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I have just worked out a 640x400 version of Another World ! Everything seems to work well, except that I have no clue for the moment on how to make fit all the data in a 4MB cartridge (I think I would need about 8MB). Awesome! I presume zerosquare was just joking about the HQ filter though, no? I imagine a filter used on modern PCs for emulation might be too taxing? What a bargain! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atari-Jaguar-Another-World-/301049562712?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item4617f3c658 I know it's none of my business what buyers do with their homebrew games. Still it gives me gas. For every homebrew 1/3 of the original buyers are f-ing resellers who want to make a quick buck out of someone else's work. They suck. Another third are the shelvers who just want the game as a collector's item and get a stroke when they see sunfading ... you could probably have blank PCBs in their cartridges and they'd never notice. Better than resellers, but still disappointing from a developer's perspective. The last third is the people I really care for, they might enjoy collecting but they also play the games for fun as intended. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The above scenario blows. Naturally. BUT... the developers of these games really shouldn't be so timid with their releases. Especially in this day and age. I don't buy any concerns of "over" purchasing parts for a second. And for a lot of reasons that are beyond redundant at this point. Least of which, the fact that they can plainly see and gauge real interest thanks to forums such as this. Add another 50, 100 or whatever to a production run and whatever does not sell out, you could always pop your own finished product up on ePay and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Even if it is a "limited production" it would be nice to see developers hold a few copies back to put up on eBay whenever the 'profiteers' try to screw fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebRmv Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please let me write again that a second run will happen if sufficiently enough people are interested (and I believe this is already the case). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I've made my view known on this before as I geuss most of us has. I suppose there's an amazingly slim chance the second seller has a genuine reason to get his money back. Unlikely though. Otherwise it would be buy it now. First seller? Agreed, a moronic thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebRmv Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Awesome! I presume zerosquare was just joking about the HQ filter though, no? I imagine a filter used on modern PCs for emulation might be too taxing? Well, I thing that hqx2 is probably too much time consuming for the Jaguar. But something simple like scale2x seems reasonable to me: I need to experiment. Edited December 22, 2013 by SebRmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audia4con Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Hi guys, I'm the seller of the bin copy. Firstly I have sold off 80% of my jaguar game in last six months, I no longer have my jaguar or my cd unit. I got interested in Japanese saturn stuff and couldn't afford both. Everybody knows that supply and demand affects the value of any items. I agree with save2600 add an extra 100 copy's to keep the value stable but just like all limited runs of games, not enought to go round and prices rise! There's more battlesphere's than another world out there ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 not sure where my another world has got to, i know several people personally that theirs have arrived. i hope mine hasn't gone missing in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Turbo Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Another World is not a limited edition !!! People who aren't on the waiting list of the RGC, please contact them : contact@retro-gc.net a second run is aimed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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