analmux Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Here is the official RMT 1.28 Patch 8. See the attached zip-file. One test-file included: "Test1" (Test1.rmt and Test1.xex). Any questions? Answers & other examples will be next time.And here are some background topics:• AtariAge Forums - Atari Systems - Atari 8-Bit Computers - RMT 1.28 Patch 8 theory• AtariAge Forums - Atari Systems - Atari 8-Bit Computers - RMT 1.28 no bugs?• AtariAge Forums - Atari Systems - Atari 8-Bit Computers - How to improve the PoKey "NOTE-2-PITCH" table, compared to RMT.• AtariAge Forums - Atari Systems - Atari 8-Bit Computers - More about PoKey 16-bit mode and 'distortion guitar' RMT 128 (Patch 8).zip 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) And here's the final table schedule: Patch 8 Table: RMT PoKey Bits: Clock: Number Instrument distortion: distortion: of bytes: name: 0 0 8 x x White noise 2 2 8 1.79 MHz 48 Poly 5 / Generator 2 4 A 8 1.79 MHz 36 Sawtooth / Triangle 6 C 8LSB 1.79 MHz 32 Clarinet (Poly 4), LSB 8 A 8HSB 1.79 MHz 64 Harmonic square undertones of Clarinet / Distortion guitar, HSB A A 8 15 kHz 48 Pure bass A A 8 1.79 MHz 12 Pure flute C C 8 1.79 MHz 31 Poly 4 (degenerate 1) C C 8 1.79 MHz 17 Poly 4 (degenerate 3) E 8 8LSB 1.79 MHz 32 Distortion guitar (Poly 9), LSB Edited February 7, 2015 by analmux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I like your effort with those instruments. But, due to the changes, other important stuff gets lost. Here a quick test. At the start at 15kHz and it turns to 64khz mode later. Possibly it shows my intentions The guitar is a great addon... If just the 16 bit resolution was usable for all types of instruments Carefull, it's very noisy u8test.xex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Could you also post your .rmt version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ofcourse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ofcourse... testu8.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks. The 16-bit 'distortion guitar' works best when you use RMT-distortion 8 instead. It looks a bit mysterious, but the HSB (highest significant byte) has a full automodulation control. If you use command 2 (at voice 2), then (X/,Y\) = (0,0) gives a modulation of 0. If f.e. (X/,Y\) = (0,6) = $06, then the automodulation speed is not zero, and it sounds a bit like an electric distortion guitar effect. Backwards automodulation, then you compute a binary minus of $06, i.e. $00-$06=$FA. testu8v2.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) And here's an 'Overview Orchestra', more details of post 2. It is a detailed scheme table scale of all the Patch 8 positibilies: RMT distortions: 2: 4: 6: 8: 8: A: C: C: E: PoKey distortions: Dist 2: Dist A: Dist C: Dist A: Dist A: Dist A: Dist C: Dist C: Dist 8: Note: (deg 1) (deg 3) G#0 - - - - 32 - - - - A0 - - - - 33 - - - - A#0 - - - - 34 - - - - B0 - - - - 35 - - - - C1 - - - - 36 0 (*1) - - - C#1 - - - - 37 1 -- - - - D1 - - - - 38 2 - - - D#1 - - - - 39 3 - - - E1 - - - - 40 4 - - - F1 - - - - 41 5 - - - F#1 - - - - 42 6 - - - G1 - - - - 43 7 - - - G#1 - - - - 44 8 - - 32 A1 - - - - 45 9 - - 33 A#1 - - - - 46 10 - - 34 B1 - - - - 47 11 - - 35 C2 - - - - 48 12 - - 36 C#2 - - - - 49 13 - - 37 D2 - - - - 50 14 - - 38 D#2 - - - - 51 15 - - 39 E2 - - - - 52 16 - - 40 F2 - - - - 53 17 - - 41 F#2 - - - - 54 18 - - 42 G2 - - - - 55 19 - - 43 G#2 - - - - 56 20 - - 44 A2 - - - - 57 21 - - 45 A#2 - - - - 58 22 - - 46 B2 - - - - 59 23 - - 47 C3 0 0 - 0 60 24 - - 48 C#3 1 1 - 1 61 (*3) 25 - - 49 D3 2 2 - 2 62 (*3) 26 - - 50 D#3 3 3 - 3 63 (*3) 27 - - 51 E3 4 4 - 4 - 28 - - 52 F3 5 5 - 5 - 29 - - 53 F#3 6 6 - 6 - 30 - - 54 G3 7 7 - 7 - 31 - - 55 G#3 8 8 - 8 - 32 - - 56 A3 9 9 - 9 - 33 - - 57 A#3 10 10 - 10 - 34 - - 58 B3 11 11 - 11 - 35 - - 59 C4 12 12 0 12 - 36 - - 60 C#4 13 13 1 13 - 37 - - 61 (*3) D4 14 14 2 14 - 38 - - 62 (*3) D#4 15 15 3 15 - 39 - - 63 (*3) E4 16 16 4 16 - 40 - - - F4 17 17 5 17 - 41 - - - F#4 18 18 6 18 - 42 - - - G4 19 19 7 19 - 43 - - - G#4 20 20 8 20 - 44 - - - A4 21 21 9 21 - 45 - - - A#4 22 22 10 22 - 46 - - - B4 23 23 11 23 - 47 - - - C5 24 24 12 24 - - - - - C#5 25 25 13 25 - - - - - D5 26 26 14 26 - - - - - D#5 27 27 15 27 - - - - - E5 28 28 16 28 - - - - - F5 29 29 17 29 - - - - - F#5 30 30 18 30 - - - - - G5 31 31 19 31 - - - - - G#5 32 32 20 - - - - - - A5 33 33 21 - - - - - - A#5 34 34 22 - - - - - - B5 35 35 23 - - - - - - C6 36 - 24 - - - 0 - - C#6 37 - 25 - - - 1 - - D6 38 - 26 - - - 2 - - D#6 39 - 27 - - - 3 - - E6 40 - 28 - - - 4 - - F6 41 - 29 - - - 5 - - F#6 42 - 30 - - - 6 - - G6 43 - 31 - - - 7 - - G#6 44 - - - - - 8 - - A6 45 - - - - - 9 - - A#6 46 - - - - - 10 - - B6 47 - - - - - 11 - - C7 - - - - - - 12 - - C#7 - - - - - - 13 - - D7 - - - - - - 14 - - D#7 - - - - - - 15 - - E7 - - - - - - 16 - - F7 - - - - - - 17 - - F#7 - - - - - - 18 - - G7 - - - - - - 19 31 - G#7 - - - - - - 20 32 - A7 - - - - - - 21 33 - A#7 - - - - - - 22 34 - B7 - - - - - - 23 35 - C8 - - - - - - 24 36 - C#8 - - - - - - 25 37 - D8 - - - - - - 26 38 - D#8 - - - - - - 27 39 - E8 - - - - - - 28 40 - F8 - - - - - - 29 41 - F#8 - - - - - - 30 42 - G8 - - - - - - - 43 - G#8 - - - - - - - 44 - A8 - - - - - - - 45 - A#8 - - - - - - - 46 - B8 - - - - - - - 47 - C9 - - - - - 48 (*2) - - - C#9 - - - - - 49 -- - - - D9 - - - - - 50 - - - D#9 - - - - - 51 - - - E9 - - - - - 52 - - - F9 - - - - - 53 - - - F#9 - - - - - 54 - - - G9 - - - - - 55 - - - G#9 - - - - - 56 - - - A9 - - - - - 57 - - - A#9 - - - - - 58 - - - B9 - - - - - 59 - - - (*1) PoKey distortion A at 15 kHz (*2) Pokey distortion A at 1.79 MHz (*3) Silence (see rmtplayr.a65 code) Edited February 8, 2015 by analmux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Ok, my first one. Small fragment from Linkin' Park (don't remember title now, though), and of my "impressions". Made on that "clarinet" sound. Oh, .rmt and .xex files attached. linkin.zip Edited February 9, 2015 by miker 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Those tests would do better with some short Video. Not all emulations work similar. At least Altirra plays it correctly. And, let's see if this "16 bit" stuff" helps on development for a full working POKEY-Tracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Just for clarity, would it be possible to give each of your patches a name? i.e. RMT 1.28 Patch X : Bass Guitar, Honky Tonk Piano & Recorder ... or something like this? Then if there was a list of all the patches, it'd be easy to pick out which version would be good to use for your project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Just for clarity, would it be possible to give each of your patches a name? For Patch 8, see post 2, right column. And I lost all other patches, except Patch 3. But Patch 3 is just a precursor of Patch 8: I added full clarinet control. Further I did a table-squeeze for frqtab. And I completed voice 1+2 and voice 3+4 control extension. Patch 3 had some errors. Edited February 10, 2015 by analmux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 btw... just to be clear... you added the patch into the Windows Executable and exchanged/edited the included freq tables in the ASM source supplied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) btw... just to be clear... you added the patch into the Windows Executable and exchanged/edited the included freq tables in the ASM source supplied? Yes & Yes. That's why the map is called "RMT 128 (Patch 8)". And the rmtplayr.a65 has all the patches, see the extra comments there: - 320 bytes frqtab*** table - 16 bytes frqtabbeganddistor - 32 patches in the qq1, qq1a, qq2, qq2a, qq3, qq3a, qq4, qq4a, qs1, qs1a, qs2, qs2a, qs3, qs3a, qs4, qs4a area ... and the 32 patches were done with a simple hex-editor to change the RMT.exe file, which contains some copies of the binaries of rmtplayr. I don't have the original win32 source code. Edited February 10, 2015 by analmux 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ok, here's my nother experiment. Why do not use distort guitars where they are really required? Here's Orion by Metallica in my blatant (hehe) converion. Have fun with my little big disaster. In STEREO. orion.zip 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ok, second version. Distorted guitars are a bit less aggresive now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Miker... what a suprise... I love Orion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Nice then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) @ Miker, It surprised me! Note that orion2.xex is not replaced with patch 8. It sounds horrible. I assume you typed "export as xex" with a standard RMT. Edited February 11, 2015 by analmux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Sorry guys, my fault! Attached correct one. Thanks, Mux! Edit: Removed bad one! orion2.zip Edited February 11, 2015 by miker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Sorry, couldn't resist Didn't know the tune before, and it's really not my cup of tea. But this is more what "I" Get from the original Also interesting that Altirra also here sounds slightly different to the RMT... and, you hear some sound issues, caused by Altirra itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Emkay, post rmt file as well, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 emkay, I agree with miker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 The RMT file. orion2met.rar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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