CPUWIZ Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Since my program can already display the data on screen in hex, I thought about having the user take photos of the screen and feed them into a program that reads them. But I know more about audio than I do about computer vision, so the audio route seemed easier. I think he was more referring to a QR code or something, rather than HEX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOliver Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) Yes. Some code optimized for the 2600 play field, maybe adding color into the encoding. I assume a lot more data could be transferred per screen and with a lower error rate with some kind of check sum type deal. I had been wondering about a way to communicate info to users in a game. The look of text on the 2600 isn't too great imo. Flying a 23th century space ship and the text display, well, kind of doesn't help the illusion. But a play field screen would look futuristic and having to translate via a web site would be interesting. I think I'd even do the score that way. Edited June 5, 2016 by DanOliver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SQL Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Yes. Some code optimized for the 2600 play field, maybe adding color into the encoding. I assume a lot more data could be transferred per screen and with a lower error rate with some kind of check sum type deal. I had been wondering about a way to communicate info to users in a game. The look of text on the 2600 isn't too great imo. Flying a 23th century space ship and the text display, well, kind of doesn't help the illusion. But a play field screen would look futuristic and having to translate via a web site would be interesting. I think I'd even do the score that way. Great idea! Another variation could be to flash the screen to create a bit-banger serial port through the PC camera, maybe periodically changing the color too like Video Chess to show the Atari is thinking I bet there's already a bit-banger optical driver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Yes. Some code optimized for the 2600 play field, maybe adding color into the encoding. I assume a lot more data could be transferred per screen and with a lower error rate with some kind of check sum type deal. I had been wondering about a way to communicate info to users in a game. The look of text on the 2600 isn't too great imo. Flying a 23th century space ship and the text display, well, kind of doesn't help the illusion. But a play field screen would look futuristic and having to translate via a web site would be interesting. I think I'd even do the score that way. Like this? This is the final Assembloids2600 PAL binary represented as 64x64 pixel (=4096 Bytes Image, hehe. You can spot some repeating code and gfx patterns in there, also some smoother color-transitions i.e. from the game's logo color-table. And the reset-table. Then he mentioned changing parts so the binary wouldn't leak out early! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOliver Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Another variation could be to flash the screen to create a bit-banger serial port through the PC camera, maybe periodically changing the color too like Video Chess to show the Atari is thinking Like morse code, although I guess audio would be better for that. That would be interesting too, giving clues or advantages to players who can understand morse code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOliver Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Like this? This is the final Assembloids2600 PAL binary represented as 64x64 pixel (=4096 Bytes Image, hehe. You can spot some repeating code and gfx patterns in there, also some smoother color-transitions i.e. from the game's logo color-table. And the reset-table. image.jpg Then he mentioned changing parts so the binary wouldn't leak out early! That's a lot of info and just one screen. Thanks. Also, what a perfect way to represent just how small a 4k game is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 That's a lot of info and just one screen. Thanks. Also, what a perfect way to represent just how small a 4k game is. There are posters made out of 2600 game hex code. I made this "Atari 4K Pac-Man 02-26-2015" from the "new" version by DINTAR816. To me it's more impressive than a poster of code, because it's just a rectangle of hex numbers and that's the entirety of the game, graphics, colors, movement, sound, music, score, everything is in those less than 5,000 numbers (bytes)! (That, and the medium-resolution .jpg itself is 1,048,639 bytes! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 My favorite 8 bytes! I challenge anyone to do that in 7, legally. Hint: SP=$FF, X=A=0, carry clear, decimal mode clear, RIOT ram and TIA registers clear... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmk Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 For audio you can use DTMF It is very easy to produce on 2600 and there are libraries to decode it on the PC side. It won't be very fast but it is going to sound pretty cool, it has the right vintage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 The decoder program is in the zip attached in the cart dumper thread: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/185932-my-2600-cart-dumper/ I just checked it and the source is missing (while I'm sure it was included in previous revisions). I have it in another computer and I will be able to post it tomorrow. I found the sources and added them in the thread linked above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I think he was more referring to a QR code or something, rather than HEX. The Stacks displays a QR code on the screen which leads to a website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Slocum Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 I found the sources and added them in the thread linked above. Great, thanks for adding the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I got a 2600-daptor and tried to read the SaveKey with the SaveKey driver. But the program doesn't find the SaveKey ("ERROR - AtariVox not found!"). Any help is welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualcam Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) I got a 2600-daptor and tried to read the SaveKey with the SaveKey driver. But the program doesn't find the SaveKey ("ERROR - AtariVox not found!"). Any help is welcome. The 2600-daptor does not work with the AtariVox. I think this what you are looking for - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/177120-bb-atarivox-support-part-2-basic-voice-functionality/?p=2718060 EDIT: could probably make a special firmware for the 2600-daptor to interface with the AtariVox, though I would need to research the protocol to communicate with the AtariVox. Looks like on the USB side it is just a virtual COM port. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/ Edited November 23, 2017 by dualcam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 No big deal. But a special firmware would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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