jrhodes Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Not that i am ungrateful for these great games being made in the first place, but i have to wonder why anyone would intentionally make a single player joystick game, and have it set to joystick #2 only... (like the game "Daffy") Why not joystick #1, would that not make more sense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LASooner Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) I'm making a game that only works with Joystick 3, it's called "Future Use" Edited April 10, 2018 by LASooner 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I do believe at the time Joystick 1 was also being used by some things like a joystick mouse and required hardware modifications to the port. I do not think it became popular, but may have resulted in some games using Joystick 2 instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Some 3rd party games defaulted to joystick 2 BITD (some Parker Brothers and Funware titles, IIRC). It didn't matter too much if you were using the TI joysticks, as then both would always be present and you just picked up the other joystick, but it did cause trouble for those who had a joystick adapter that went to a single joystick (or an adapter made for two joysticks but where the user only had one joystick connected to it). Folks have been cursing this programming quirk since 1983 or so, when the first titles to do this showed up on the market. . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The joystick quandary on the TI is nothing compared to the C64's. Literally don't know what port is going to be used from game to game. Such a clusterfook that way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The joystick quandary on the TI is nothing compared to the C64's. Literally don't know what port is going to be used from game to game. Such a clusterfook that way! I always thought the "Joystick 2" dilemma was limited to the C64 until I came across several TI games which would not work with my one-port adapter. I was rather disappointed. It is interesting to see how many home computers did not have dedicated I/O ports for joysticks but instead shared keyboard sense lines with the joysticks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrice montupet Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Not that i am ungrateful for these great games being made in the first place, but i have to wonder why anyone would intentionally make a single player joystick game, and have it set to joystick #2 only... (like the game "Daffy") Why not joystick #1, would that not make more sense? Oh! I am surprised to see that some people are still playing this game. I wrote it in 1984 :-) I tried to remember why I have set the controls to Joystick #2, but too many years have past and I have forgotten the reason. I'm sorry! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Yeah, there are some decent games like Star Trek Strategic Operation Simulator, but honestly any game that requires Joystick #2 never stays on my system or gets played. My loss I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lee Stewart Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 If games that use only Joystick #2 can also be played with the right side of the keyboard, I can imagine game writers catering to right-handers. ...lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 If games that use only Joystick #2 can also be played with the right side of the keyboard, I can imagine game writers catering to right-handers. ...lee As a south-paw I am offended by this blatant oppression by the right-hand privileged. But, then again, it leaves the left hand free for other things. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 As a south-paw I am offended by this blatant oppression by the right-hand privileged. But, then again, it leaves the left hand free for other things. The 'other' joystick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The 'other' joystick? Brother, I kill at Robotron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhodes Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) Joystick adapter just came in the mail! This should definitely put the joy back in CALL JOYST! Time to relocate my wico command stick in the shed and retire ye olde T.I. Pain-Sticks. Edited April 10, 2018 by jrhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 ... retire ye olde T.I. Pain-Sticks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 "You see this? Put your right hand in the box." "What's in the box?" "Pain." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 *Pure, unrefined, Spice* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhodes Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 The other T.I. Pain Stick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Those were my first TI joysticks. Playing TI Invaders with them never lasted more than 20 minutes or so, as by then, the ball on top had turned much of my hand into raw meat. . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Never saw or had a chance to use those, but after reading your testimonial - glad I didn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I feel so alone. (About the joysticks.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apersson850 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 We called it "Defender thumb", the ache when you had played just too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I feel so alone. (About the joysticks.) I'm trying to imagine how it feels to be all alone with the TI Joysticks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I never had so much pain when using joysticks, even the original TI ones, maybe because I always grabbed the lever between thumb and fingers (as if I wanted to hold a pen). Then I had the Competition Pro (if there is eternal life, maybe we can witness it right here) which I am still using for our monthly competition, where I grab the ball on top, but still mainly between thumb and finger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The only time my Epyx XJ-500 ever caused me any pain was playing Flying Shark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The only reason I can think why someone would make a game and it end up being Joystick 2 only, was if his Joystick-1 was faulty and only Joystick-2 worked .... so he coded it for Joystick-2 to test it and forgot to alter the values from 2 to 1 when he released it. Other than that it's a bit strange why anyone would? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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