kurtm Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 All orders have been shipped... Now the anticipation begins. Thanks for doing this MEtalGuy66. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 All orders have been shipped... Sweet! Stephen Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 All orders have been shipped... Great I got my Fedex email earlier, Thanks also for the DIY for the SpartaDosX conversion to version 4.42 and 4.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Old docs are invaluable, I found the old petereson docs. The docs from the wedge from Ed Bachman led to the switch that I added to that. Metalguy's suggestion to add the triple throw was a good idea for covering the bases. As for the SpartaX switch, I found the docs on that but it was to piggyback espress and sparta in the same cart for those who could not find both. The PBI extenders looks pretty nice! Now for putting them thru their paces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 Old docs are invaluable, I found the old petereson docs. The docs from the wedge from Ed Bachman led to the switch that I added to that. Metalguy's suggestion to add the triple throw was a good idea for covering the bases. As for the SpartaX switch, I found the docs on that but it was to piggyback espress and sparta in the same cart for those who could not find both. The PBI extenders looks pretty nice! Now for putting them thru their paces! Yeah as far as using sparta & express on the same cart, you can do that with any 2 roms that share the same banking scheme by just going to the next larger sized EPROM (to which you would burn both images) and just toggling the state of the highest adress line.. What I did over in the SDX 4.42 thread was to adapt the 128k banking upgrade from the SDXint logic to the original Sparta Logic, and then add a switch that toggles the highest adress line (as described above) so that you can switch back & forth between original ICD spartados, and the new ver 4.42 spartados.. In case your wondering, the ICD sparta (only 64k) image is doubled in the second half of the eprom, so that the state of the SECOND highest adress line doesnt matter when the state of the highest adress line is switched into "ICD ver 4.22" mode.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Got my boards in today. I'm going out to get the parts now:) I'll try to post pics when I get the PCB assembled. I don't have a working 1200XL to test it on yet. Stephen Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorgle Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Got mine (bare board) today and it looks great ... except the postal service broke it. It's cracked along the row of holes for the 2nd cart connector near the pbi terminals. Not your fault, obviously. Should I try to bend it back or will that just crack it further? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 One is built, the other is put away for now. Excuse the image size - I didn't feel like scaling them down. Stephen Anderson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddez Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) I don't believe it, I can finally use my 1200XL with my MIO! Thanks again MetalGuy! Dave Edited February 21, 2009 by ddez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 Got mine (bare board) today and it looks great ... except the postal service broke it. It's cracked along the row of holes for the 2nd cart connector near the pbi terminals. Not your fault, obviously. Should I try to bend it back or will that just crack it further? Holy crap dude.. That was packed in a padded envelope.. I would contact your local postmaster and raise HOLY HELL... make them pay for it. those boards are not fragile by any means.. They mustve tried real hard to break it like that.. as far as fixing it, I would put a piece of perfboard behind it, drill some small holes (where theres no traces) through both boards, and put some small nuts & bolts through it.. That should make it strong again.. Then, test everything with an ohm meter and solder jumper wires to repair any broken traces.. Im sorry about that.. This is why I dread using the us postal service.. worthless freakin union asses.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 I don't believe it, I can finally use my 1200XL with my MIO! Thanks again MetalGuy! Dave Looks good, Dave.. Did you have any problems with the installation instructions? Any suggestions for others who may be planning to install theirs soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddez Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Looks good, Dave.. Did you have any problems with the installation instructions? Any suggestions for others who may be planning to install theirs soon? Ken, I had absolutely no problems with the installation instructions, just followed the diagram and soldered each wire on the board. For people that just purchased a circuit board and want to use both cartridge slots I would recommend installing a 90 degree DIP header like Stephen did. When you plug a cartridge into the port closest to the computer it overlaps the DIP header slightly as you can see in the attached pictures. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Looks good, Dave.. Did you have any problems with the installation instructions? Any suggestions for others who may be planning to install theirs soon? Ken, I had absolutely no problems with the installation instructions, just followed the diagram and soldered each wire on the board. For people that just purchased a circuit board and want to use both cartridge slots I would recommend installing a 90 degree DIP header like Stephen did. When you plug a cartridge into the port closest to the computer it overlaps the DIP header slightly as you can see in the attached pictures. Dave Yeah. None of my carts have cases on them, so... A better solution than the right angle header is simply to install the header on the botom side of the board.. You can easily solder it in either way.. You just have to re-order the wires accordingly.. From right to left, you end up with 2-1-4-3-6-5-8-7-10-9 instead of 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10.... Use the same installation instructions, but treat the wire numbers in the ribbon as I just stated.. Also, if you plan to use this with cased carts, you can solder steel pins into the holes on either side of the cart connector to act as "openers" for the ATARI brand carts.. The thin finishing nails that you use to hang pictures work well.. Edited February 22, 2009 by MEtalGuy66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) FOR THOSE WHO "MISSED THE BOAT" I've got the following extra units for sale: Prices are in US Dollars and include insured shipping via FedEX Home Delivery and PayPAL fees. What you see is what you pay. For Shipping outside the continental US (First Class International Post), add $4.00US.. The $43.00 unit is only missing the 74HC08 IC and the ribbon cable.. It's fully assembled with all "solder-in" parts installed. Get them while they last.... There are no more, after these 5 are sold... Edited February 22, 2009 by MEtalGuy66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender II Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Thank you so much for the boards. Only one comment...beside the one above about the header connection... Did the PCB maker screw up? The before picture you made was correct but what they produced was off. Why did they tin the short srip near the cart end and then green protective coat the cartridge end? It looks like they ground off the green coating and took off some of the metal on the pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Thank you so much for the boards. Only one comment...beside the one above about the header connection... Did the PCB maker screw up? The before picture you made was correct but what they produced was off. Why did they tin the short srip near the cart end and then green protective coat the cartridge end? It looks like they ground off the green coating and took off some of the metal on the pads. Yeah I wont be using that manufacturer again.. They had some problems with the soldermask layer.. It doesnt cause a functional problem, and when the board is installed, you'll never see it.. I am not gonna press the issue with the manufacturer, because it's not worth it.. I just wont use them in the future.. Yeah.. The solder mask had to be polished off the cart contacts.. That stuff is impervious to any chemical that wont also melt the board, so the only option is abrasive removal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I don't believe it, I can finally use my 1200XL with my MIO! Thanks again MetalGuy! Dave Looks good, Dave.. Did you have any problems with the installation instructions? Any suggestions for others who may be planning to install theirs soon? Great board. Installation very easy with the instructions given. One suggestion is to do all pin connections above the ribbon cable first and then do the below ribbon cable connections. I left #9 connection for last and then did the trace cut. Stacked SDX cart and Rtime8 cart works good, but SDX cart on top wouldn't boot. All others that I tried worked in either slot. But I do have several carts that I will probaly un-case just for this board. Now I want an MIO or someone to repair the 256 Mio that is not working. (Fried Diodes and Boggled attemp at repair--I got from Ebay) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Were there installation instructions in the box? I swear I didnt see any. Can they be downloaded somewhere? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Were there installation instructions in the box? I swear I didnt see any. Can they be downloaded somewhere? Tempest See post #120 - this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR> Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Were there installation instructions in the box? I swear I didnt see any. Can they be downloaded somewhere? Tempest See post #120 - this thread. Or #121 where you quoted it in your own reply to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Got mine today. Not broken thankfully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuf Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Got the board a week or two ago and a friend and I installed it tonight. My 1200 has the AtariMax 32-1 OS upgrade, 256k memory expansion, the video mod, and now the PBI mod I've also got a MyIDE cart with SpartaDOS X 4.39 installed on it (using the instructions found here somewhere). Also tested this with SIO2OSX and an SIO2USB. Installation went smoothly, and here we are powering it up for the 1st time! Screenshot showing both a MyIDE volume and the MIO ramdisk! The MIO config screen in all its glory. Everything works as expected! A couple of observations: As mentioned before, the header on the PBI board interferes with the first cart slot. You cant actually get an AtariMax style cart in there. The 1200XL will not operate (at all) with the PBI board removed. If an MIO is connected, it must be turned on for the 1200 to boot. The AtariMax MyIDE cart works fine! I am able to boot SpartaDOS X from it, and access the IDE partitions, along with the MIO. Performing this upgrade seems to clear up the video "sparkle" problem I was having. We need a case for the PBI board, or at least some standoffs so it has some support. I'd LOVE to see some sort of right angle PBI cable, or put the PBI header on the "back" of the board so the MIO sits where it should! Excellent job MG!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Got the board a week or two ago and a friend and I installed it tonight. My 1200 has the AtariMax 32-1 OS upgrade, 256k memory expansion, the video mod, and now the PBI mod I've also got a MyIDE cart with SpartaDOS X 4.39 installed on it (using the instructions found here somewhere). Also tested this with SIO2OSX and an SIO2USB.(snip...) Nice pics. But where is your MIO hard drive? I see the 65,242 sectors, but no HD visible. What model HD and firmware are you using? Perhaps it's sitting under the MIO -- but that looks like an Indus case. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuf Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Nice pics. But where is your MIO hard drive? I see the 65,242 sectors, but no HD visible. What model HD and firmware are you using? Perhaps it's sitting under the MIO -- but that looks like an Indus case. -Larry Those are MyIDE partitions. I was trying to show the MyIDE (65k sector partition) and the MIO (small ramdisk) working together. I dont have a HD for the MIO; im waiting on someone to figure out how to get a SCSI to IDE adapter working with one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Just got back from a business trip and guess what was waiting for me. The work on these things is awesome, thanks Ken. (And they survived the trip from the US to the UK too ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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