Edited by Rik, Tue Jun 2, 2009 9:17 PM.
Posted Tue Jun 2, 2009 8:31 PM
Edited by Rik, Tue Jun 2, 2009 9:17 PM.
Posted Wed Jun 3, 2009 1:25 AM
No, it was a fad for some, many people just playing it because it was popular, which inflated the market a bit, but there was still a strong fundimental user base of kids and arcade fans (plus the occasional older crowd that played in a more casual fassion).
Posted Wed Jun 3, 2009 4:46 AM
If I may pitch in my own two cents here, let's not forget the industry's side of that crash (because yes, there was a crash). In 1984, just about every major retailer in North America became convinced that video games were no longer profitable, and that there was a certain shift hapenning to home computers, although that shift was never well-defined at the time.No, it was a fad for some, many people just playing it because it was popular, which inflated the market a bit, but there was still a strong fundimental user base of kids and arcade fans (plus the occasional older crowd that played in a more casual fassion).
I propose we agree to disagree here. If there was indeed the strong fundamental base you refer to for game consoles, then there would likely have been no chance of this crash that is being discussed. A loyal base, yes. A strong base, maybe not as much. If so, more would have succeeded. I do believe the PC world took some of the gaming world's thunder, but not enough to choke it out at the price points by comparison.
At least in my world, we were a middle class family of 3 boys, and the parents were willing to spend the $200 for a Colecovision for Christmas (1982) to replace the Atari, but not jump to the pricing of the low end PC market. Then when the schools at the time were using Apple IIe's here starting in late 84/early 85, and suggesting to parents that if they got a home computer, it should be the same Apple IIe/c for sake of compatibility, a PC was even further from my future. I was able to convince them to get me an Adam, with the hook of the AppleSoft Basic compatibility (yeah, ok, kinda-- in a real not true way lol). A C-64 wasn't in my world til 1989 when I bought my own used from a guy named Nick Tanurchis. Oddly enough, I still have that same C-64c.And it wasn't til 1995 that I got my first 386...
The point being, that not all middle class families were jumping on the PC bandwagon... very few I know did. And video games remained a constant for those I knew here in St. Louis; just the Kay Bee pricing being a great benefit to our interests.
Posted Wed Jun 3, 2009 7:40 AM
Thanks, I misread that... Sort of on this topic, was composite video the highest quality the A8 line offered? The C64 had S-Video (through dual RCA with a commodore monitor).
Edited by Ransom, Wed Jun 3, 2009 7:41 AM.
Posted Thu Jun 4, 2009 11:10 AM
Posted Thu Jun 4, 2009 1:39 PM
I would say the 2600 jr (and Intelvision jr) did more to save the industry then the NES did.
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 10:40 AM
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 10:51 AM
I'm curious. Feel free to explain.I'm smokeing nothing (At the moment, lol!) but, yeah I am serious. The 2600 jr, Intelvision jr, Colecovision jr, 5200 jr etc did a lot more to safe the idustry then the NES, and I have a lot and I mean a LOT of evidence to back that up.
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 11:26 AM
I'm smokeing nothing (At the moment, lol!) but, yeah I am serious. The 2600 jr, Intelvision jr, Colecovision jr, 5200 jr etc did a lot more to safe the idustry then the NES, and I have a lot and I mean a LOT of evidence to back that up.
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 11:41 AM
I'm smokeing nothing (At the moment, lol!) but, yeah I am serious. The 2600 jr, Intelvision jr, Colecovision jr, 5200 jr etc did a lot more to safe the idustry then the NES, and I have a lot and I mean a LOT of evidence to back that up.
Man, I like to debate and play devils advocate (see earlier posts in this thread lol), but I can't even begin to start defending that statement... lol
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 11:58 AM
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 12:37 PM
coleco jr? 5200jr? hu?
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 1:31 PM
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:41 PM
I'm smokeing nothing (At the moment, lol!) but, yeah I am serious. The 2600 jr, Intelvision jr, Colecovision jr, 5200 jr etc did a lot more to safe the idustry then the NES, and I have a lot and I mean a LOT of evidence to back that up.
Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 3:43 PM
coleco jr? 5200jr? hu?
...maybe this guy escaped from somewhere within the last month or so? I think this has got to be the most dysfunctional argument on AA...
One would think that there is more conspiracy behind the "Great Video Game" crash than the assassination of JFK.
Posted Sun Jun 7, 2009 12:39 PM
Posted Sun Jun 7, 2009 2:38 PM
Alright then, my backup statement... The 5200 jr was cancelled and was a huge sucsess, the Intelvision II was supported during the game crash of '83 and was a huge sucsess, the ColecoVision jr never exzisted and was a huge faliure and the 2600 was a huge sucsess and reshaped the industry. I was smokeing this morning, but trust my, I'm sober now. lol! lol! hahahahaha
Posted Mon Jun 8, 2009 10:20 AM
Posted Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:50 PM
Edited by 65Gamerguy, Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:51 PM.
Posted Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:03 PM
Posted Thu Sep 1, 2011 2:15 AM
Posted Thu Sep 1, 2011 4:20 AM
In my opinion Atari did much more damage than Coleco did, at least to themselves. The Atari 5200 couldn't play 2600 games
Posted Thu Sep 1, 2011 7:50 AM
Posted Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:12 AM
Edited by high voltage, Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:15 AM.
Posted Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:31 AM
In my opinion Atari did much more damage than Coleco did, at least to themselves. The Atari 5200 couldn't play 2600 games
Neither could the Colecovision. What's your point?
Edited by Vic George 2K3, Thu Sep 1, 2011 10:36 AM.
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