megoninja Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Hey guys, I am hoping to get a good collection of 2600 games that would suite 2, or maybe even more, people. So far I only own about 30 2600 games and most of which you either just play by your self, or you can take it in turns. The only good ones I have found are like Basketball, Bowling, Boxing, Hockey and Tennis. Would you guys be able to tell me what are the best multiplayer games ever made? I would like a co-op type game but I know these older games focus more on fighting each other. Any help would be hugely appreciated on this. PS Before you mention it, I have thought of Warlords, that game is the best! thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonsDad Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Warlords, Armored Ambush, and Combat are three off the top of my head. GideonsDad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 The only good ones I have found are like Basketball, Bowling, Boxing, Hockey and Tennis. Would you guys be able to tell me what are the best multiplayer games ever made? I would like a co-op type game but I know these older games focus more on fighting each other. Hey there. Well, I am kind of an Atari 2600-newbie, as I haven't owned a real Atari 2600 for a very long time. But am planning to, heh. So my knowledge on such matters is very limited so far. I have been wondering that same question myself though.. but I can recommend a few (though I don't know what you mean by 'good', heh).. Realsports Tennis (I wasn't sure if this was what you meant because there are at least two different Tennis-games for Atari, probably even more - but this is the a bit more elaborate one with the proper scoring system, greenish field (at least in PAL version), and just wonderful gameplay) Combat (the tank game) Space War (simple but nice) Realsports Volleyball (this is actually very intense game!) Then there are games which I don't know the names of, because I only have that 32-in-1 pack.. it has a few nice two-player games, like one where you have two cannons and are trying to shoot airplanes and helicopters and such. Then there is the Parachuting game, but I don't know the name of that either. You try to land on a pad, taking wind into account and the time when you open your parachute.. simple but actually can get a bit complicated anyway I just wanted to reply because no one seemed to have replied so far.. I am sure there will be better replies than mine, from the old beards who know more what they are talking about than me, but I thought it's nicer to get at least one reply than nothing. It does seem that the one-player games are a big majority with the Atari 2600 though.. for me it's ok, because I like one-player games a lot, two-player games many times seem kinda simplistic and I hate trying to 'compete' against someone I like. It's no fun winning and causing bad feelings to a good friend, and also it's no parade to lose either.. Besides, in one-player games your imagination becomes more activated, as there aren't disturbances, and you can focus on being one with the game better.. (Atari 2600 games certainly provoke the imagination, which is why their graphics are actually more pleasing to me than modern game graphics (even if we compare to the beautiful 3D games, and not the nowadays-so-usual ugly ones - and by beautiful, I mean things like Dreamcast version of Soul Calibur)... my imagination gets involved in creating the graphics and story, and thus produces much better visuals than a boring, earthly 3D-engine ever can. But I digress; I would very much like to know also if there are any PADDLE-2D-games.. perhaps Pong? Hmm, I can't find 'Pong' in my collections for some reason.. was it ever made for Atari 2600? I mean, paddle games are great, but Paddle-2D-games could be really neat (too bad my Atari 2600jr doesn't support paddles.. oh well, trying to get another Atari in hopes it would) - Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 For an all time great arcade I love double dragon! but can't remember if it is two player simultaneous or consecutive on the 2600.... think it is simultaneous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) We had a thread discussing all the simultaneous multiplayer games that may be useful. I posted a list down towards the bottom that separates out all the homebrews and PAL-only games (there's only one of the latter that hasn't been converted to NTSC). I haven't tried all the games in that thread yet, but aside from sports games and the titles already mentioned (Air Sea Battle, Armor Ambush, Combat, Double Dragon, Sky Diver, Space War, and Warlords), here's what I would suggest: Classic-era titles: Demons to Diamonds, Fishing Derby, Freeway, Frogs and Flies, Indy 500, Joust, Maze Craze, Sprintmaster, Star Wars: Jedi Arena, Surround, Wizard of Wor Homebrews: Bee Ball, Fall Down, Go Fish!, Medieval Mayhem There are also a bunch of alternating games in which the turns tend to be relatively short (Bugs, Kaboom), or in which the alternation is an inherent part of the game (Artillery Duel, Human Cannonball). In my house, our top 10 two-player games are probably Boxing, Bugs (!), Combat, Fishing Derby, Frogs and Flies, Indy 500, Kaboom, Sky Diver, Sneak 'n Peek, and Warlords. That list is likely to change, though, if I pick up some homebrews or a Harmony cart. (too bad my Atari 2600jr doesn't support paddles.. oh well, trying to get another Atari in hopes it would) By "doesn't support", do you mean that the Atari is damaged? I hadn't heard of any issues with the 2600 Jr. not supporting paddles. Edited December 20, 2009 by thegoldenband 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) But I digress; I would very much like to know also if there are any PADDLE-2D-games.. perhaps Pong? Hmm, I can't find 'Pong' in my collections for some reason.. was it ever made for Atari 2600? I mean, paddle games are great, but Paddle-2D-games could be really neat (too bad my Atari 2600jr doesn't support paddles.. oh well, trying to get another Atari in hopes it would) - Monk You mean Paddle "2P" games (2D is most commonly used for "Two dimensional")? Warlords was mentioned (which is playable up to four players). Pong is on 2600 with a ton of two player variations. The 2600 version is called Video Olympics or Pong Sports (Sears published version. Same game, different name). Some other 2P paddle games are Breakout, Demons to Diamonds, Marble Craze (homebrew), and Canyon Bomber. I find it odd that the 2600jr wouldn't support paddles. I used to have a Jr. and the paddles worked fine. Maybe the paddles are broken? Edited December 20, 2009 by BrianC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (too bad my Atari 2600jr doesn't support paddles.. oh well, trying to get another Atari in hopes it would) - Monk 2600jr. does indeed support paddles (wouldn't really be an Atari, now would it? lol) Just make sure they're plugged into the 1st player controller port... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accousticguitar Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Chase it (the link is in my signature) is a simple 2 player game I programmed with batari Basic. It's not available on cart, but if you have the Harmony multicart you could play it on real hardware that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Classic-era titles: Demons to Diamonds, Fishing Derby, Freeway, Frogs and Flies, Indy 500, Joust, Maze Craze, Sprintmaster, Star Wars: Jedi Arena, Surround, Wizard of Wor Oooh, how could I have ever forgotten to mention Frogs and Flies! That's one of my favorites too, ahh. A great, great game. It plays much better than some other versions of it - I mean, the Atari version looks and plays the best. Increased resolution doesn't mean increased visual quality.. (I could write some kind of essay of how 'less detailed' graphics provoke the imagination and thus 'look better'..) Thanks for this list btw, I am saving it and planning to test every game.. I didn't even know Joust was a 2-player game, I must test that too (fortunetaly I have that one in my small collection). (too bad my Atari 2600jr doesn't support paddles.. oh well, trying to get another Atari in hopes it would) By "doesn't support", do you mean that the Atari is damaged? I hadn't heard of any issues with the 2600 Jr. not supporting paddles. Well, I have no way of knowing that. I only have one Atari 2600jr, and it doesn't support Paddles. My estimation is that it's probably damaged, as I have tried two separate paddles (one from Commodore, one from Atari) that BOTH function perfectly in my two separate Commodore 64's (older and newer) and my mom's Atari 2600 (Darth Vader version). So the diagnosis is just that that particular Atari 2600jr individual just doesn't seem to support paddles (I only have one paddle-game to test with though, Circus Atari, which is one of my favorite games, so it's a bit frustrating). I can't know of course, if someone making that Atari just decided to be evil and not include the paddle support or something, so technically it wouldn't be 'damaged'.. hehe. Thus my generalized term; it just doesn't support them and that's that. - Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 But I digress; I would very much like to know also if there are any PADDLE-2D-games.. perhaps Pong? Hmm, I can't find 'Pong' in my collections for some reason.. was it ever made for Atari 2600? I mean, paddle games are great, but Paddle-2D-games could be really neat (too bad my Atari 2600jr doesn't support paddles.. oh well, trying to get another Atari in hopes it would) - Monk You mean Paddle "2P" games (2D is most commonly used for "Two dimensional")? Yes. A mental typo, sorry.. so used to writing D right after the 2, that my fingers seem to do it automatically now.. Warlords was mentioned (which is playable up to four players). Pong is on 2600 with a ton of two player variations. The 2600 version is called Video Olympics or Pong Sports (Sears published version. Same game, different name). Some other 2P paddle games are Breakout, Demons to Diamonds, Marble Craze (homebrew), and Canyon Bomber. I find it odd that the 2600jr wouldn't support paddles. I used to have a Jr. and the paddles worked fine. Maybe the paddles are broken? Yep, the paddles work just fine (both of them) with three DIFFERENT machines (two of which are C64's), so if the trouble is with paddles, it's odd that it's the exact SAME symptoms with both of them, and also that they are BOTH broken in such a weird way that they work in three separate machines (one of which is an Atari 2600), but not with that Atari 2600jr.. I think there is either bug, feature, fault, failure or broken part in the Atari 2600jr that I have, which simply stops the paddles from working.. but I am going to get an NTSC Atari 2600jr anyway, so hopefully that supports paddles (I am getting this so the colors in Pitfall and other games can finally look good.. I mean, I do like the 'golden spaceship' in Cosmic Ark, but I would also like the option of seeing the game as it was MEANT to be seen..).. Thanks for the quick responses by the way! - Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 (too bad my Atari 2600jr doesn't support paddles.. oh well, trying to get another Atari in hopes it would) 2600jr. does indeed support paddles (wouldn't really be an Atari, now would it? lol) Just make sure they're plugged into the 1st player controller port... Yes, I said _MY_ Atari 2600jr. I didn't say THE Atari 2600jr. And duh, of course I tested both paddles in both ports, and plugged them very thoroughly, even tried plugging them more gently and not as deeply and every damn thing, believe me, I tried everything. It's amazing that everything ELSE about that Atari 2600jr (OF MINE) work just beautifully and great. - Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I guess the misunderstandings here come from when I said that I am going to test another Atari, if that works. Well, I didn't mean another MODEL of Atari, I mean another Atari INDIVIDUAL of the SAME model I mean, I am hoping to receive another Atari 2600jr, this time an NTSC machine, so I hope the paddles work with that one. - Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari_envy Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) Outlaw and Mario Brothers haven't been mentioned. Both are good, simultaneous two-player games. Others: Quickstep and Motorodeo are a couple of my daughter's favorites (mainly because she can kick my butt). The vote for "best" has got to be Warlords. Edited December 21, 2009 by atari_envy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 It's amazing that everything ELSE about that Atari 2600jr (OF MINE) work just beautifully and great. - Monk Assuming your paddles are not defective, it's actually quite common for the inputs' solder joints on the Atari PCB need to be resoldered. Even just one bad pin could cause the problem you're experiencing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Outlaw and Mario Brothers haven't been mentioned. Both are good, simultaneous two-player games. -snip- The vote for "best" has got to be Warlords. I loved Outlaw and Warlords back when they were first released. But I'd give the nod to Medieval Mayhem and Gunfight today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 It's amazing that everything ELSE about that Atari 2600jr (OF MINE) work just beautifully and great. Assuming your paddles are not defective, it's actually quite common for the inputs' solder joints on the Atari PCB need to be resoldered. Even just one bad pin could cause the problem you're experiencing... Hm, perhaps you didn't read thoroughly. I just told that the paddles work (two different paddles, not just the one set of paddles - one is by Commodore, one is by Atari) -- the both sets of paddles work in a C64, a C64C, Atari 2600 (Darth Vader) - but neither of them work at all with the Atari 2600jr that I have. I can't solder.. so that Atari 2600jr of mine will remain as it is for the rest of it's life (unless it gets even more broken). But it's hopefully going to be fixed by the NTSC Atari anyway - that should support paddles, so it's no biggie. It's just the waiting that always gets to me, heh.. Thanks for the help and diagnosis anyway! - Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Thanks save2600! More info and videos can be found here for Medieval Mayhem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugenmidget Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 M*A*S*H is pretty hilarious, fun times! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman jack Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) I second M*A*S*H*, Freeway, and RealSports Volleyball. And once the store opens again at Atari Age, two of my favorites are the homebrews Flap Ping and Incoming! They both have two player variations that are great fun. And Joust in two player variations, as well as Space Invaders, can be lots of fun as well. Edited December 21, 2009 by littleman jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzbard Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) ... there are games which I don't know the names of, because I only have that 32-in-1 pack.. it has a few nice two-player games, like one where you have two cannons and are trying to shoot airplanes and helicopters and such. Then there is the Parachuting game, but I don't know the name of that either. You try to land on a pad, taking wind into account and the time when you open your parachute.. simple but actually can get a bit complicated anyway The games that you are referring to are "Air/Sea Battle" and "Sky Diver". Here's a list of the games included in the 32-in-1 cart: 00 Space Jockey 01 Human Cannonball 02 Fun With Numbers / Basic Math 03 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe 04 Flag Capture 05 Othello 06 Golf 07 Surround 08 Checkers (Activision) 09 Blackjack 10 Freeway (w/Rabbits) 11 Miniature Glof 12 Football 13 Slot Racers 14 Fishing Derby (Crabs) 15 Space War 16 Boxing 17 Air/Sea Battle 18 Freeway 19 Tennis 20 Combat 21 Slot Machine 22 Skiing 23 Stampede 24 Outlaw 25 Fishing Derby 26 Sky Diver 27 Laser Blast 28 Basketball 29 Cosmic Swarm 30 Bowling 31 Home Run Edited December 21, 2009 by Buzbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzillajoe Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I started this a while back, maybe it can help. Anyone please add to it if I missed one since that day http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/93939-the-definitive-list-of-all-simultaneous-multiplayer-games/page__hl__simultaneous ---------------------- For the 2600, is this all the game that both players are on screen doing stuff at once? Turn based games like Checkers or 3-D Tic Tac Toe were omitted because you can't do anything until your opponent does first This also excludes unreleased prototypes, name variations for the Sears carts and PAL games Air-Sea Battle Armor Ambush Atlantis Basketball Bee-Ball Boxing Breakout Canyon Bomber Combat Demolition Herby Demons To Diamonds Dodge'em Double Dragon Double Dunk Dragster Entombed Fall Down Fishing Derby Football Flap Ping Freeway Frogs and Flies G.I. Joe: Cobra Strike Go Fish! Gunfight Guardian Home Run Ice Hockey Indy 500 International Soccer Joust Karate M-4 (2005 Minigame Multicart) M.A.D. M*A*S*H Marble Craze Mario Bros Maze Craze Medieval Mayhem Motorodeo Oink Outlaw Party Mix Pele's Soccer Pete Rose Baseball Phantom II Quick Step Racquetball Rampage RealSports Baseball RealSports Boxing RealSports Football RealSports Tennis RealSports Soccer RealSports Volleyball Sky Diver Slot Racers Space Invaders Space War Sprintmaster Starship Star Wars: Jedi Arena Steeplechase Stella's Stocking (Grandma's Revenge, Cold War games) Street Racer Summer Games (certain events) Super Baseball Super Challenge Baseball Super Challenge Football Superman Surround Swordfight Sync (Me First! game option) Tennis Thunderground Title Match Pro Wrestling Track And Field Video Olympics Warlords Warring Worms Warring Worms: The Worm Returns Winter Games (certain events) Wizard Of Wor Worm War I 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thegoldenband Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 godzillajoe, you may find my list here in that thread useful. It's basically a formatted version of your list with a couple tweaks and annotations. Other folks pointed out that Super Football and the homebrew Shield Shifter should also be added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 The games that you are referring to are "Air/Sea Battle" and "Sky Diver". Here's a list of the games included in the 32-in-1 cart: Yes, I realized that a bit later in this thread, when I remembered the names after seeing them written. Thank you for this list, I already had some other list, but it was errorenous so it was more confusing than explaining. Perhaps this one is correct. By the way, does anyone know if the first game in that 32-in-1 pack is -supposed- to be greyscale once you start playing it? (I couldn't get it back to color, although -before- you start the game, everything seems colorful) According to this list, it'd be "Space Jockey". Also, I couldn't figure out how to play all those games.. some of them don't start, no matter what - and for example the Golf games are just impossible to figure out without some kind of manual (or maybe my brain is missing a plugin for this sort of stuff ).. It's a nice pack with some pretty neat games, but many games in it seems like some kind of filler-material, like all those C64 "(many) games in one"-packs. I did actually try to play all those games but the only ones I liked were mostly already mentioned here.. But just for fun's sake I'll list the games I like in that pack and am glad to play.. - Human Cannonball - Freeway (although I get bored with this usually very quickly, lack of variation and sideways movement) - Air/Sea Battle - Space War (though I would need another person to play this with - and I don't like how the bullets can run out) - Tennis (though now I have Realsports Tennis, which is much better, though Atari is too good in this one - more fun with another human) - Combat would be fun to test with another human also, only a couple of times have I had that pleasure, and never yet with real Atari.. - Sky Diver (this is a blast with another human) - Laser Blast (although I played this so much I got bored and let myself be killed - I just love the laser sound though! I try to shoot as much into ground as possible so I can just hear the sound many times in a row - too bad you can't shoot in your 'free time') - Stampede (this isn't very interesting though in the long run) - Bowling (the names of the games could be so simple back then.. - I just love the flashy whistling appreciation party that happens when you get a strike, or 'half' a strike) - Skiing (though this becomes a bit mind-numbing too, a bit like the Commodore's SKI, which I also like) Hmm, this list (that you gave me) seems to be actually accurate, thank you very very much! - Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opeygon Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 demons to diamonds oink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzbard Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) Yes, I realized that a bit later in this thread, when I remembered the names after seeing them written. Thank you for this list, I already had some other list, but it was errorenous so it was more confusing than explaining. Perhaps this one is correct. Hmm, this list (that you gave me) seems to be actually accurate, thank you very very much! - Monk No problem, I found a few lists myself that were inaccurate, so I looked at the rom which is 64k, I used a hex editor to split it into 32 2k roms, ran each one in Stella and created the list of games that way. Keep in mind that the list I provided is probably not 100% accurate, as some of these games look to be slightly modified versions of the original games. Edited December 22, 2009 by Buzbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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