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#26 kisrael OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Apr 2, 2010 9:04 AM

My opinion is that the only thing that was "duplicated" is the effort (or lack of effort) to not bother fixing a bug.


To misquote Bob Ross
"There are no minus-world bugs, only happy accidents"

#27 Ranthulfr OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 4, 2010 10:06 AM

Even with the considerable randomness and unpredictability there could be some more interesting stuff lurking up there. This site has describes a few curiousities (involving alternate controllers as mentioned above):
http://www.angelfire...tkingatari2600/

Ya know, I recently retired my old cx-40 stick because it was no longer reliable in the left direction... Now I'm wondering if it's not the same MountainKing-itis that others have had trouble with. If the game can devour a TAC-2 stick then I'm sure a cx-40 is just a light snack.

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Posted Mon Apr 5, 2010 8:52 PM

Ya know, I recently retired my old cx-40 stick because it was no longer reliable in the left direction... Now I'm wondering if it's not the same MountainKing-itis that others have had trouble with. If the game can devour a TAC-2 stick then I'm sure a cx-40 is just a light snack.


:lol:

#29 ttony_at OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:01 AM

Even with the considerable randomness and unpredictability there could be some more interesting stuff lurking up there. This site has describes a few curiousities (involving alternate controllers as mentioned above):
http://www.angelfire...tkingatari2600/


Hi, I'm the person who wrote the instructions on this website. Man, my brother must have spent months exploring the hidden world
and then drew maps of it! It was so fascinating discovering stuff in there... it wouldn't surprise me if there is more to be found.
And the extra controllers that actually help you go higher by adding ladders.

I've reviewed the site around earlier this year and we're pretty sure we've included written everything we found.

Glad to see people are still trying to find out about the hidden levels in this game but are we getting closer to a
logical answer as to why it exists? And perhaps more interestingly, what else is there waiting to be discovered??

Tony
Vancouver B.C.

Edited by ttony_at, Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:06 AM.


#30 Mxyzptlk OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:09 AM

Even with the considerable randomness and unpredictability there could be some more interesting stuff lurking up there. This site has describes a few curiousities (involving alternate controllers as mentioned above):
http://www.angelfire...tkingatari2600/


Hi, I'm the person who wrote the instructions on this website. Man, my brother must have spent months exploring the hidden world
and then drew maps of it! It was so fascinating discovering stuff in there... it wouldn't surprise me if there is more to be found.
And the extra controllers that actually help you go higher by adding ladders.

I've reviewed the site around earlier this year and we're pretty sure we've included written everything we found.

Glad to see people are still trying to find out about the hidden levels in this game but are we getting closer to a
logical answer as to why it exists? And perhaps more interestingly, what else is there waiting to be discovered??

Tony
Vancouver B.C.

Thank you.

#31 ttony_at OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:25 AM

Does anyone remember if the 5200 or other versions have secret areas?


Yes, I think most of the other versions do have secret areas (that are only a secret until we know).

For example in the Mountain King Atari 8-bit version it's at the bottom.


The player gets stuck at the end. But I wonder if it's possible to continue climbing down
some other way and how far.

Edited by ttony_at, Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:28 AM.


#32 Zap! OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:12 AM

After playing Mountain King for the first time seriously in over 25 years (A8 version), I just have to give a huge thumbs up to this old but very informative thread!



#33 zzip OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:56 AM

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but is the secret level in Mountain King the result of some accidental programming glitch, or was it put in there intentionally by the programmer? I remember the first time I discovered it purely by chance and I thought it was the coolest thing ever!

 

I believe it's unintentional.   It seems too glitchy to be intentional.   

 

As a programmer, what I think happened is the "double jump" thing is either a bug, or was used in debugging to jump further quickly.   But when you jump so high, you've jumped off the map, and the platforms and ladders are a result of program code, counters, and the like being interpreted as ladders and platforms.   



#34 Tempest OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:14 PM

 

I believe it's unintentional.   It seems too glitchy to be intentional.   

 

As a programmer, what I think happened is the "double jump" thing is either a bug, or was used in debugging to jump further quickly.   But when you jump so high, you've jumped off the map, and the platforms and ladders are a result of program code, counters, and the like being interpreted as ladders and platforms.   

 

I agree.  If the secret area was intentional then it wouldn't be so buggy and crash.  I think it's just a glitch with the way the levels are stored and constructed compounded by accessing random code or memory.  This sort of thing has been shown to happen in other games, so it's not unique.



#35 moycon OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:01 PM

It is indeed unintentional the confirmation being contained earlier in this very thread!!

Great (if old) info here. I loved Mountain King as a kid. A truly unique experience on the Atari 2600.






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