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#1 Tanman OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:17 AM

Well, I have settled on collecting carts for my 800. Someone had posted earlier a list of all the carts made. Can't find that post. Also, does anyone have a breakdown/history of the different types? (black label, silver label etc.)

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#2 Mitch OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:27 PM

Well, you can start with this. Just don't tell Al I gave you that link. :D

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#3 Tanman OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:02 PM

What link? :)

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:04 PM

What link? :)


Hahah so what's the deal with that hidden site? Lol

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:58 PM

Also, does anyone have a breakdown/history of the different types? (black label, silver label etc.)

Brown/black label carts: 1979-1983
Silver label carts: 1983-1988
XE carts: 1987-1989

There's also some oddities concerning the silver label and XE carts. Some brown/black label carts were rereleased as silver label carts, and some silver label carts were rereleased in the XE cart shell (but without the blue label that was used for most XE carts). There are also two types of XE carts, one with ridges on the sides and another with a smooth shell, but with small ridges and a lip on the back. The ridged shell was used from 1987 to 1988, and the smooth shell was introduced around 1989 when the last batch of XE carts were released (Mario Bros, Desert Falcon, Karateka, etc.).

Edited by ApolloBoy, Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:59 PM.


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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:16 PM

Some info here on Atari Protos' site

Atarimania will probably sort you out with what carts were released

I did something similar on my old site with some scans but I lost most of the site content when I didn't pay the bill for a while and didn't have a backup :dunce:

#7 Tanman OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:17 PM

Cool! Thanks!

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:22 PM

Atarimania will probably sort you out with what carts were released

My only problem with the Atarimania database is that the release dates are a year off for almost all of the XE carts. Bug Hunt and Flight Simulator II were the only XE carts released in 1987, while the rest were released in either 1988 or 1989.

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:58 PM

i think there was a thread by 'pitfall jones' (i think that was the members name) that had a picture of all the A8 cartridges

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:00 PM

i think there was a thread by 'pitfall jones' (i think that was the members name) that had a picture of all the A8 cartridges

Here's the site in question.

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:08 PM

Well, you can start with this. Just don't tell Al I gave you that link. :D

Mitch


This list is very incomplete, same famous Andrew Krieg's list and others...
Hmmm I don't know any complete public 800/XL/XE cartridges list ;)

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:34 PM

Atarimania will probably sort you out with what carts were released

My only problem with the Atarimania database is that the release dates are a year off for almost all of the XE carts. Bug Hunt and Flight Simulator II were the only XE carts released in 1987, while the rest were released in either 1988 or 1989.


Well,
this is untrue or the © Copyright Atari 1987 on many labels of my XE carts is wrong (and they were released in the shops much later). Besides, the carts with the ridges on the side are the Taiwan carts, the carts with a lip on the back (and a screw under the label) are the Hong Kong carts.

Think it is also untrue that the Taiwan carts were only released in 1987 and 1988, while the Hong Kong carts were only released in 1988 and 1989 and err, last not least no Atari XE carts were officially released in 1989 (according to their label)...

e.g. some carts with unknown Atari © or Atari © earlier than 1987
- Crystal Castles (Hong Kong, © 1986 Atari Corp.)
- Ballblazer (Hong Kong, tm and © 1985 Lucasfilm, Atari Corp. authorized user)
- Rescue on Fractalus (Hong Kong, tm and © Lucasfilm 1985, Atari Corp. authorized user)
- Summer Games (Hong Kong, © 1985 Epyx)

e.g. some of my XE carts with Atari © from 1987:
- Moon Patrol (Taiwan)
- Archon (Taiwan)
- Jungle Hunt (Hong Kong)
- Donky Kong Junior (Taiwan)
- Tennis (Taiwan)
- Lode Runner (Taiwan)
- Final Legacy (Hong Kong)
- Pole Position (Taiwan)
- Millipede (Hong Kong)
- Joust (Taiwan)
- Food Fight (Hong Kong)
- Battlezone (Taiwan)
- Flight Simulator II (Taiwan)
- Barnyard Blaster (Taiwan)
- Crossbow (Hong Kong)
- Fight Night (Hong Kong)
- Desert Falcon (Hong Kong)
- Midnight magic (Taiwan)
- Football (Taiwan)
- Bug hunt (Taiwan)
- One on One (Hong Kong)
- Blue Max (Taiwan)
- Gato (Hong Kong)
- Hard Ball (Hong Kong)

carts with Atari © from 1988:
- Airball (Hong Kong)
- Mario Bros. (Hong Kong)
- Dark Chambers (Hong Kong)
- Donkey Kong (Hong Kong)
- Into the Eagle`s Nest (Hong Kong)
- Thunderfox (Hong Kong)
- Crime Buster (Hong kong)
- Necromancer (Hong kong type cart with lip, label says: Made in Taiwan!)
- Ace of Aces (Hong Kong)
- Karateka (Hong kong)

carts with Atari © from 1989:
- none !
only prototypes (e.g. Deflektor, Tower Toppler, Commando, Xenophobe, etc.)

But hey, I always prefer Hong Kong type carts over Taiwan carts, so it might be possible, that some carts from 1988 listed above are also available as Taiwan version (if I had both, I always only kept the Hong kong type). On the other hand, I have not yet seen e.g. an "Archon" cart. in a Hong Kong type case... -Andreas Koch.

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:38 PM

Well, you can start with this. Just don't tell Al I gave you that link. :D

Mitch


This list is very incomplete, same famous Andrew Krieg's list and others...
Hmmm I don't know any complete public 800/XL/XE cartridges list ;)

nosty


I did say it was a start and there is a reason why it's not "public".

Mitch

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:40 PM

[/quote]
Here's the site in question.
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That picture compilation is awesome.

I recently found this list, which claims to be complete (official US) ...

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:27 PM

Sort of vaguely related, but it seems that all those lists except the Atarimania one don't list the Dig Dug variation. I actually just discovered it last night when I was going through a few doubles to see if they all work, and the second Dig Dug came up totally different. It was the earlier (inferior) version. It's amazing how much better the later release is.

I'd love to get more A8 carts too... I only have about 30 or so.

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:39 PM

i think there was a thread by 'pitfall jones' (i think that was the members name) that had a picture of all the A8 cartridges

Here's the site in question.


Here's a link to the root: Atari Cartridge Lists

You can also get a list at: Digital Press

Additionally: Atari Cartridge Dumping Project

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:59 PM

Atarimania will probably sort you out with what carts were released

My only problem with the Atarimania database is that the release dates are a year off for almost all of the XE carts. Bug Hunt and Flight Simulator II were the only XE carts released in 1987, while the rest were released in either 1988 or 1989.


Well,
this is untrue or the © Copyright Atari 1987 on many labels of my XE carts is wrong (and they were released in the shops much later). Besides, the carts with the ridges on the side are the Taiwan carts, the carts with a lip on the back (and a screw under the label) are the Hong Kong carts.

Think it is also untrue that the Taiwan carts were only released in 1987 and 1988, while the Hong Kong carts were only released in 1988 and 1989 and err, last not least no Atari XE carts were officially released in 1989 (according to their label)...

The copyright date isn't necessarily the same as the release date. Here's the XE carts by release year (not counting rereleases):

1987
Bug Hunt
Flight Simulator II

1988
Archon
Ballblazer
Barnyard Blaster
Battlezone
Blue Max
David's Midnight Magic
Fight Night
GATO
HardBall
Lode Runner
One-on-One Basketball
Rescue on Fractalus
Star Raiders II

1989
Ace of Aces
Airball
Choplifter
Crime Buster
Crossbow
Crystal Castles
Dark Chambers
Desert Falcon
Food Fight
Into the Eagle's Nest
Karateka
Mario Bros.
Necromancer
Summer Games
Thunderfox

I got these release dates from the Atari 8-bit FAQ as well as these ANTIC articles:
http://www.atarimaga...Cartridges.html
http://www.atarimaga...uctReviews.html
http://www.atarimaga...ataricarts.html
http://www.atarimaga...cartridges.html

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:57 PM

Not a single comprehensive list in the bunch.

Who wants to get together on Google Docs and do a spreadsheet of a final and all encompassing list of cartridges?

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:06 PM

Signup for EditGrid.com and I will share a list of 398 Cartridges if you would like to help edit/update/correct it please let me know.

If you have no knowledge to share please don't ask.

my email address is my atariage username <at> gmail

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:26 PM

There's this list as well.

http://my.execpc.com...inks/8bit.carts

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Posted Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:32 PM

Would love this list integrated into a usable format (like Excel)

Feel free to jump in and help

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Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:20 AM

There is also this and this which may be of help

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Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:00 AM

There is also this and this which may be of help



Yes Apolloboy posted that earlier.

Thanks

#24 Tanman OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:44 AM

Wow! Thanks for all the replies! I'll sit down this weekend and see if I can combine everything into one super list. I'll put ut together in excel and might even dust off my Access skills. Having a database where I can list when, where, $, etc...

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Posted Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:23 AM

Already done

Here you go Atari Cart Spreadsheet

If you are going to enhance it, please share it back here.

Speaking for myself I am not looking for anything web based.

If you can keep it in excel that would be great

Edited by joeventura, Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:24 AM.





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