Sorry... There just aren't enough eBay or online sellers for the TI. If we create some kind of TI "blacklist," then who are we gonna put on it? Kyle? Who else? It has been suggested over at one of the (lame) list servers that one of our own Atariage guys be on the big important official "TI Blacklist".... And that fella happens to be a friend of mine.
We're a tiny community. Growing--- at a pretty good pace, but still relatively small compared to, say, the Atari2600 guys. It's a tough thing--- but we all know there are necessary evils in this world.... One happens to be (for me) access to items on eBay. If there were a seller like Kyle who sold the same stuff, i'd buy from that person.... But for all the rare stuff I've got from Kyle over the years--- I've never had a business transaction problem..... Now of course, that leaves alot of questions.... For instance, my tax bill doesn't arrive late or mis-addressed. I still gotta pay it. Alot of people buy from this guy. He just has more stuff than anyone else.... That's all. marc's point is absolutely 100% legitimate,
by the way.... So is yours Matthew
I started a new thread because I'm a heavy believer of NOT hijacking threads. If I wanted that kind of thing I would have stayed on the Y! list servers. Anyway...
I'm not suggesting a "blacklist". Simply a thread where people post issues with transactions or questionable buyers / sellers. On the other A.A. groups I have read, both sides are usually on the list and hash out the differences (or not). I don't care about the emotion of the transaction, just the facts (which are hard to separate sometimes.)
I was suspicious of Kyle even before Marc's post simply because how can anyone, anywhere in the world, get some much good TI stuff and not participate in a community? There is just no way. You don't get that much retro computing stuff simply because the sales are *so* lucrative. If the Kyle guy is making illegal copies of stuff and trying to pass it off as original, then that sucks for us all.
Yeah, yeah, I know, who is he hurting really, right? TI? Some defunct and out of business company from the '80s? Well, it seems he is not restricting his wares to 20 year old, no longer available anywhere stuff. And if he magically has another copy of some manual a few weeks after selling the last one, then you can be sure he is selling copies and not originals (and at top dollar to boot.) That's just B.S. all around.
I promise you this, the day you make a piece of software and start trying to sell it (or even make it free on a website and simply ask for donations), and you then see someone selling *your* software on ebay... On that day your attitude towards software piracy will change.
I'm not trying to pretend I'm not guilty or point fingers here. I don't think there is a person alive who can honestly say they have never downloaded or installed some sort of pirated software. Unfortunately for us (and all retro computing) it is sometimes the only way we can get access to software otherwise (it simply can not be bought legit.) However it does not make it right. But when people start making illegal copies of carts by burning eproms and trying to sell them as originals, or when they take newly developed software and start selling it illegally, that goes down a totally different road all together IMO.
How would you feel if, when Beryl is finished, you found Kyle selling it on ebay??