Herbarius Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) It's about my C64 again, well normally it works like a charm, but occasionally it acts up, like this: When I power it on, the picture comes up almost like normal, except one of those two things: Each character on the screen seems to have a different color, giving me a very colorful display, but these colors are "fixed" for each character, so no matter what I try, they'll never change All over the screen (but only inside the main area, where the characters are not the border) are some dots lit up, giving a display that almost looks like RF interference (despite using S-Video), but if you look closely you see that each character square on screen has the exact same anomaly. (Never had both occur at the same time, but I can't know if it is mutually exclusive.) Again, it happens very rarely, and usually when I hadn't powered on the computer at all for a while (like a couple of weeks). But when it happens, it stays that way even when I power it off and then on again. But, the magical fix, which always works instantly: 1. Power off 2. Lift the C64 by a couple of inches 3. Drop it back on the table 4. Power on And Tada, everthing is fine! I figure there are propably solder joints which are weak, but who could tell me where to look for them? I certainly do not wish to reflow the entire board Yeah, I could always "just live with it", as rarely as it occurs and as quickly as it can be corrected, but then I don't feel comfortable with dropping the C64, even if it's only a few inches, on a semi-regular basis, and also from my experience with electronic equipment of all kinds is that those kinds of "quick and easy fixes" tend to make the original problem even worse in the long run Edited June 13, 2010 by Herbarius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesbroslash Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 No offense, but this is kind of funny. Sorry, just the fact that dropping old hardware fixes it is what gets me. Not a bad idea though, since old computers sometimes need tough love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 What you probably need to do is open it up and clean and reseat the socketed chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbarius Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) What you probably need to do is open it up and clean and reseat the socketed chips. And now I feel stupid for not thinking of that myself... Thank you! Edited June 13, 2010 by Herbarius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanallan Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) This is known as the Atari Drop since that is exactly what went wrong with some ST computers. The real fix is to reseat the chips exactly as described by remowilliams. Edited June 13, 2010 by nathanallan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax2069 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 What i did was clean the contacts and found a way to keep the chips in their socket (something that wont keep you from removing the chip from the socket). like using 3m double sided tape (between the chip and the socket) or maybe a dab of hot glue. got to love chip creep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 The Apple III was prone to spitting out it's chips and lifting it and dropping it 3 inches was the official repair practice. That's if lifting it didn't give you a hernia and it didn't crush your desk. (ok... so it wasn't THAT heavy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax2069 Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 The Apple III was prone to spitting out it's chips and lifting it and dropping it 3 inches was the official repair practice. That's if lifting it didn't give you a hernia and it didn't crush your desk. (ok... so it wasn't THAT heavy) LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin' Kat Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 The Apple III was prone to spitting out it's chips and lifting it and dropping it 3 inches was the official repair practice. That's if lifting it didn't give you a hernia and it didn't crush your desk. (ok... so it wasn't THAT heavy) From what I've read this was mainly an issue in the first ones. Later revisions fixed this... but it's image had already been stained and this is what it's most remembered for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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