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#76 A.J. Franzman OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:28 PM

OK, small correction made to the two Meltdown entries for my next update. For Solar Defense to be noted as "MAY EXIST", I'd like to see some kind of report of the game or a prototype being shown or owned by someone. Publisher catalog entries, and magazine articles featuring possibly mocked-up screenshots are insufficient.

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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:26 AM

OK, small correction made to the two Meltdown entries for my next update. For Solar Defense to be noted as "MAY EXIST", I'd like to see some kind of report of the game or a prototype being shown or owned by someone. Publisher catalog entries, and magazine articles featuring possibly mocked-up screenshots are insufficient.

Once again: the screenshot of Solar Defense in Tilt is not a mock-up.

You can see the interference on the TV screen.

All other screenshots in that Tilt article were camera shots as well.

So MAY EXIST is the proper note for this game.

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:28 AM.


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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:40 AM

OK, small correction made to the two Meltdown entries for my next update. For Solar Defense to be noted as "MAY EXIST", I'd like to see some kind of report of the game or a prototype being shown or owned by someone. Publisher catalog entries, and magazine articles featuring possibly mocked-up screenshots are insufficient.

Once again: the screenshot of Solar Defense in Tilt is not a mock-up.

You can see the interference on the TV screen.

All other screenshots in that Tilt article were camera shots as well.

So MAY EXIST is the proper note for this game.

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Plus, you really have to look at all the other mock-ups for the game. They match what apparently is a real screen shot.

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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:39 PM

Once again: the screenshot of Solar Defense in Tilt is not a mock-up.

You can see the interference on the TV screen.

All other screenshots in that Tilt article were camera shots as well.

So MAY EXIST is the proper note for this game.

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Forgive my ignorance in this matter, but I just noticed that you list this as a VentureVision game on your site, while the article in Tilt seems to indicate that it's a Sancho game. Are these one and the same company? (and if so, shouldn't you list it under Sancho as well?) Also, the name Solar Defense isn't mentioned anywhere in Tilt, so how do you know for sure this really is the correct title for the screenshot?

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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:59 PM

Once again: the screenshot of Solar Defense in Tilt is not a mock-up.

You can see the interference on the TV screen.

All other screenshots in that Tilt article were camera shots as well.

So MAY EXIST is the proper note for this game.

I see some moiré lines in the image on Atarimania, but that doesn't prove anything. That kind of artifact can occur any time an image based on regularly spaced elements is copied to another medium with regularly-spaced elements: raster to halftone, raster to pixels, halftone to pixels, etc. The only way to be certain that it's a genuine screenshot, would be if the moiré lines are present in the original magazine image (which eliminates the possibility of the moiré pattern being caused by digital pixels). Since I don't have an original of that magazine issue, I don't know for certain. But if you have the original magazine and you say the lines are really there (not only in the scanned images of the article on your computer screen), then I'll take your word for it.

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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:04 PM

Plus, you really have to look at all the other mock-ups for the game. They match what apparently is a real screen shot.

Mock-ups would match another mock-up too, so that argument carries no logical weight. Where can I see "all the other mock-ups for the game", for comparison to the "apparently ... real screen shot" in Tilt?

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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:17 PM

Forgive my ignorance in this matter, but I just noticed that you list this as a VentureVision game on your site, while the article in Tilt seems to indicate that it's a Sancho game. Are these one and the same company? (and if so, shouldn't you list it under Sancho as well?) Also, the name Solar Defense isn't mentioned anywhere in Tilt, so how do you know for sure this really is the correct title for the screenshot?

The article made a mistake by pointing to screenshot 11 and 12 as being Sancho titles, while in fact these are VentureVision titles (a few lines later mentioned as Venture).

An article in Videogaming Illustrated shows a similar screenshot under the name Solar Defense.

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:24 PM.


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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:28 PM

Once again: the screenshot of Solar Defense in Tilt is not a mock-up.

You can see the interference on the TV screen.

All other screenshots in that Tilt article were camera shots as well.

So MAY EXIST is the proper note for this game.

I see some moiré lines in the image on Atarimania, but that doesn't prove anything. That kind of artifact can occur any time an image based on regularly spaced elements is copied to another medium with regularly-spaced elements: raster to halftone, raster to pixels, halftone to pixels, etc. The only way to be certain that it's a genuine screenshot, would be if the moiré lines are present in the original magazine image (which eliminates the possibility of the moiré pattern being caused by digital pixels). Since I don't have an original of that magazine issue, I don't know for certain. But if you have the original magazine and you say the lines are really there (not only in the scanned images of the article on your computer screen), then I'll take your word for it.

Yes, the original magazine shows these moiré lines as well.

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Posted Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:50 PM

Maybe I am not understanding how to read this list correctly. But, how are you getting Sewer Sam as a 2600 game from Interphase?

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:07 PM

For the most part, I don't know how any particular item got on the list. It's a very old list, which was posted by Duke Of Roxburghe in post #1 (I don't know where he got it or when it originated), and which I've only begun updating a few months ago. Just about all of the items I've added, came from Tempest's website, Atariprotos.com (both the Atari 2600 Software and Rumor Mill sections). A few others came from various forum posts here at AA.

If you have knowledge that Sewer Sam was never intended to be a VCS title, please share. Even better, would be to find the reference which erroneously reported it as planned or in production for the VCS -- but it sounds to me like this is exactly what you're wondering.

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:37 PM

For the most part, I don't know how any particular item got on the list. It's a very old list, which was posted by Duke Of Roxburghe in post #1 (I don't know where he got it or when it originated), and which I've only begun updating a few months ago. Just about all of the items I've added, came from Tempest's website, Atariprotos.com (both the Atari 2600 Software and Rumor Mill sections). A few others came from various forum posts here at AA.

If you have knowledge that Sewer Sam was never intended to be a VCS title, please share. Even better, would be to find the reference which erroneously reported it as planned or in production for the VCS -- but it sounds to me like this is exactly what you're wondering.

AFAIK Sewer Sam was never planned for the VCS, but for the Intellivision and Colecovision.

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:54 PM

Wait a minute... Atom Smasher/Meltdown was last an ATARI title, not 20th Century Fox? And it was really made by Videa... so did Cumma actually have rights to it at some point? Or did they have nothing to do with it, other than "borrowing" it for the 1983 Winter CES?

Nolan Bushnell, Al Alcorn, and Joseph Keenan started Cumma. Pizza Time Theatre, which involved Bushnell and Keenan, bought Videa. I'm leaving out details, but I think you can make the connection.

There was an original game by Atari called Meltdown, don't confuse the two. It was released for the 7800 but it was also planned for the 2600.

Thanks for clearing that up. DP was the source of the misinformation, not CRV or me.

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:20 PM

OK, it's been almost a month since I last posted it, so here's my latest revision of the list. I found a few additional titles in a file here in the AA archives, but most of the changes are in the Notes column.

Atari VCS 2600 Cartridges Reported as Unreleased

Last updated 2010-Sep-28

Key:
ALIAS game is better known by another name-- in most cases, released
FOUND game exists and binary has become readily available to the public
FOUND- most complete known binary not publicly available, but earlier is
EXISTS game prototype cartridge/board, EPROM, binary or source code has been
       discovered or is believed to be in a private collection but the
       binary is not publicly available
MAY EXIST at least one credible source confirms that at least some coding of
          the game was started - perhaps as little as a 1-screen static demo
ALIAS+EXISTS Space Mission was a working title shown in ads for what Atari
             released as Star Ship. The game was also released by Sears
             as Outer Space. However, one Atari-branded cartridge bearing
             the Space Mission name has been found.
EXISTS+ALIAS one copy of the Pink Panther game is known to exist. The game
             is known by several different titles.
FOUND+ALIAS Computer Chess was the working title of Video Chess. The
            prototype has additional features that were removed from the
            released version for unknown reasons. The only known cartridge
            with this name has a production end label.
VAPOR it is believed that no coding ever took place for this title

Titles without any entry in the NOTES column may never have been started.
If the NOTES entry is a system name or "8 BIT COMPUTERS", that title was not
 a VCS game.
If the NOTES entry is a different publisher, the game was released
 (or intended for release) by that publisher.

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Title                                 Publisher      Mfg #   NOTES
------------------------------------- -------------- ------- ---------------
3-D Asteroids                         Atari          CX26105
3-D Genesis                           Amiga                  EXISTS
3-D Ghost Attack                      Amiga                  EXISTS
3-D Ghost Attack (for Amiga Power Module)            1100    APM UNRELEASED
3-D Havoc                             Amiga                  EXISTS
3-D Havoc (for Amiga Power Module)    Amiga          2110    APM UNRELEASED
3-D Rubik's Cube                      Atari                  FOUND
4 in 1                                Atari          CX26137 FOUND
8 in 1 (AKA Supergames 8 in 1)        Atari          CX26193 FOUND
9 to 5                                20th-Fox
28 in 1                               Atari
30 in 1                               Atari
48 Hours                              Sega
$25,000 Pyramid                       Great Game Co.
Actionauts (AKA Microbots)            Atari                  EXISTS
AD&D: Tower of Mystery                Mattel         MT7175  EXISTS
AD&D: Treasure of Tarmin              Mattel         MT4325  EXISTS
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons           Mattel                 SEE 2 ABOVE
Adventures of Max, The                Atari                  MAY EXIST
Adventures of the Pink Panther        Probe 2000             EXISTS+ALIAS
Aerial Ace                            Imagic         IA3409  ALIAS
Airplane!                             Sega
Air-Sea Attack                        Ultravision    1001    COLECOVISION
Alligator People                      20th-Fox               FOUND
Androman on the Moon (for Androman)   Atari                  FOUND
Anteater                              Mattel                 EXISTS
Aquaventure                           Atari                  FOUND
Astro-Battle                          Ultravision            ALIAS/DIMAX
Astrochase                            Parker Bros.           EXISTS
Astrowar                              Artic          SM8002  DIMAX
A-Team, The                           Atari          CX26133 FOUND
Atom Smasher                          Cumma                  ALIAS
Atom Smasher                          Videa                  ALIAS
Attack of the Baby Seals              20th-Fox               VAPOR
B-52 Bomber                           Ultravision    1003    COLECOVISION
B.C.'s Quest For Tires                Tigervision            COLECOVISION
B.C. II: Grog's Revenge               Tigervision            COLECOVISION
Baby Boom Boom                        Telesys                ALIAS
Bagman                                Atari                  MAY EXIST
Ballblazer                            Atari                  MAY EXIST
Baseball                              Panda Inc.
Baseball Best (AKA Baseball Top)      Ultravision    1004    COLECOVISION
BASIC                                 Unitronics
BASIC Programming (for Piggyback)     Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Battle of the Sexes                   Multivision            MAY EXIST
Bear Jam                              Chalkboard Inc.
Beginning Algebra (for Piggyback)     Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Beginning Math (for Piggyback)        Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Bionic Breakthrough (for Mindlink)    Atari                  FOUND
Bird                                  Activision             MAY EXIST
Birthday Mania                        Personal Games Company EXISTS
Blockade Runner                       Interphase
Blow Out                              M Network              MAY EXIST
Blue Angels                           Apollo
Bobby's Cosmic Adventure              Telegames
Boggle                                Atari                  FOUND
Boing!                                Atari          CX26128 FIRST STAR
Boing!                                First Star             FOUND
Boing!                                Xonox                  FIRST STAR
Bouncin' Baby Bunnies                 Telesys                EXISTS
Bouncing Baby Monkeys                 Telesys                ALIAS
Brain Ball                            Telesys
Buck Rogers: Caverns of Zagreb        Sega
Buck Rogers: Marathon of Zenda        Sega
Buck Rogers: Secret of Sabar          Sega
Bugs Bunny                            Atari                  FOUND
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid    20th-Fox
Cabbage Patch Kids Adventures... Park Coleco                 FOUND
Candyland Surfing                     20th-Fox               MAY EXIST
Care Bears                            Parker Bros.           FOUND
Catch the Fly                         U.S. Games     VC 2004 ALIAS
Cat-Nap                               Zimag                  8 BIT COMPUTERS
Cat Trax                              UA Limited             FOUND
Cave-In                               Spectravision
Caverns of Mars                       Atari
   (a homebrew version of this game was released on the Flashback 2)
Caverns of Mars (for The Graduate)    Atari                  GRAD UNRELEASED
Challenge of.... Nexar, The           20th-Fox               SPECTRAVIDEO
Challenger                            Atari
Changes                               Tigervision    7-013
Childrens Intro to Programming (Grad) Atari                  GRAD UNRELEASED
CHIPs                                 Ultravision
Choplifter!                           Atari          CX26124
Circus Charlie                        Parker Bros.   PB5750  MAY EXIST
Clone Attack                          Starpath
Collision Course                      Zimag                  8 BIT COMPUTERS
Combat Two                            Atari          CX26156 FOUND
Computer Chess                        Atari                  FOUND+ALIAS
Computer Corridor (=Computer Revenge) Mattel         MT4318  MAY EXIST
Computer Typing (for Piggyback)       Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Confrontation                         Answer                 FOUND
Conservation: The Watt Way            Panda Inc.
Contenders                            Activision     AK-041
Cosmic Avenger                        Coleco         2464
Countermeasure                        Atari
Count's Castle                        Atari                  MAY EXIST
Crack'ed                              Atari          CX26142 FOUND
Cubicolor                             Imagic                 FOUND
Cumulus                               Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Darts                                 U.S. Games
Day the Earth Stood Still, The        20th-Fox
Dazzler                               Unitronics
Deep Throat                           Games People Play
Depth Charge                          Amiga                  EXISTS
Depth Charge (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga          1100    APM UNRELEASED
Dinograms                             Zimag                  ALIAS?
Domino Man                            CBS Electronics
Donald Duck's Speedboat               Atari          CX26108 FOUND
Donkey Kong (for The Graduate)        Atari                  GRAD UNRELEASED
Donkey Kong 3                         Atari?                 VAPOR?
Dragon's Lair                         Coleco
Dragonslayer                          Sega
Dreadnaught Factor                    Activision
Drive 'Em Krazy                       Spectravision  SA-216
Dual Scrolling (untitled)             Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Dukes of Hazzard (Stunt Cycle hack)   Atari          CX2678? FOUND
Dukes of Hazzard (original game)      Atari          CX2678  FOUND
Dumbo's Flying Circus                 Atari          CX26115 FOUND
Dune                                  Atari                  FOUND
Dungeon Master                        Telegames
Dutch Elm Defender                    20th-Fox               VAPOR
Eagle Mountain                        Spectravision  SA-221
Electronic Football (port of handheld) Mattel
Elevator Action                       Atari          CX26126 FOUND
Elk Attack                            Atari                  FOUND
Emergency! (AKA Emergency I)          Ultravision            COLECOVISION
Energy Quizz                          Hydro Quebec?          COLECOVISION?
Entity, The                           20th-Fox       11036   FOUND
Escape From Alcatraz                  Sega
Escape from Argos                     Imagic                 ALIAS
Exus Health Cycle Program             Exus
Fail Safe                             Atari
Fall Guy, The                         20th-Fox       11018
Family Feud                           Great Game Co.
Family Finances (for The Graduate)    Atari                  GRAD UNRELEASED
Fire!                                 Palmex
Flap!                                 Imagic         EIZ-002-041 ALIAS
Flapper (AKA Beanie Bopper, Jumper)   Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Flashlight (untitled)                 Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Flesh Gordon                          Wizard Video           MAY EXIST
Flintstones, The                      M Network
Flipper                               Technovision
Food Fight                            Atari          CX2693
Football (AKA Red vs. Blue)           Atari                  FOUND
Football Fanatic                      Sports Comp-U-Stat
Forest                                Panda Inc.             SANCHO/PAL
Formula I                             Technovision   TVS 1008
Foxbat                                Atari                  ALIAS?
Frantic                               Starpath
Frenzy                                Coleco
Friday the 13th                       Sega
Frog Demo                             Commavid               FOUND
Frogger                               Atari          CX26147 PARKER
Frog Pond                             Atari          CX2665  FOUND
Funky Fish                            UA Limited             FOUND
Galactic Invaders                     Panda Inc.
Galaga                                Atari          CX26116 MAY EXIST
Galaxy Invader                        Action Hi-Tech         EXISTS
Gamma Attack                          Gammation              FOUND
Garfield                              Atari                  FOUND
Getcha                                Multivision
Ghostbusters II                       Activision             SALU/PAL
Glactic Tactic                        Spectravision  SA-211
Going-Up??                            Starpath               EXISTS
Good Luck, Charlie Brown              Atari          CX26112 FOUND-
Grover's Music Maker                  Atari          CX26106 FOUND
Happy Trails                          Activision             INTELLIVISION
Harem                                 Multivision            FOUND
Harem 1                               Multivision            ?
Harem 2                               Multivision            ?
Heartbreak                            Multivision
Hercules vs. the Titans               Xonox
High Seas                             M Network              ALIAS
Holey Moley                           Atari          CX26130 FOUND
Home Filing Manager (for The Graduate)Atari                  GRAD UNRELEASED
Home Finance (for Piggyback)          Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Honker Bonker                         Atari                  ALIAS?
Hoover Dam (The Levee Game)
Hop to It                             Imagic                 ALIAS
Hot Rox                               Atari          CX2615  ALIAS
Hydroplane                            Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Ice Trek                              Imagic
Immies & Aggies                       Zimag                  FOUND
Impossible Game, The                  Telesys                MAY EXIST
Incredible Hulk, The                  Parker Bros.           MAY EXIST
Inner Space                           Venture Vision         ALIAS/IMAGIC
In Search of the Golden Skull         M Network      MT4627  EXISTS
Introduction to Programming (Grad.)   Atari                  GRAD UNRELEASED
Intuition                             Tigervision    7-009
Ixion                                 Sega                   FOUND
James Bond 007 as Seen in Octopussy   Parker Bros.           MAY EXIST
James Bond in Moonraker               Parker Bros.           MAY EXIST
Jaws                                  Parker Bros.
Jaws                                  Universal Pictures     PARKER BROS 
Jeopardy                              Great Game Co.
Jinks                                 Atari 
Joker's Wild, The                     Great Game Co.
Jumbo Jet Pilot                       Thorn EMI
Jungle Jim                            Technovision   TVS 1005
Jungler                               Gakken
Jungle Raid                           Starpath               ALIAS
Kabobber                              Activision             FOUND
Kamikaze Saucers                      Syncro                 FOUND
Kerplop                               Zimag                  8 BIT COMPUTERS
Keystone Kapers II (speculative title) Activision
Kickman                               CBS Electronics        MAY EXIST
Klax                                  Atari          CX26192 NTSC FOUND
Knight Rider                          Studio Games
Kyphus                                Apollo         AP 2007 FOUND
Labyrinth                             Starpath               ALIAS
Lady Bug                              Coleco         2463
   (a homebrew port of this game has been released)
Lasercade                             Videa                  FOUND
Laser Raid                            Technovision   TVS 1015
Last Line of Defense                  Starpath
Last Starfighter, The (Doug Neubauer) Atari          CX26134 ALIAS
Last Starfighter, The (Tod Frye)      Atari                  EXISTS
Leonardo's Logo                       Chalkboard Inc.
Leo's 'Lectric Paintbrush             Chalkboard Inc.
Leo's Links                           Chalkboard Inc.
Loco-Motion                           M Network      MT4323  EXISTS
Locomotive                            Technovision           EXISTS
Logic Master                          Chalkboard Inc.
Logo (for Piggyback)                  Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Look Ahead                            Cumma                  20th-Fox?
Look Ahead                            20th-Fox
Looping                               Coleco         2654    FOUND
Lord of the Dungeon                   Probe 2000
Lord of the Rings: Journey to Rivendell Parker Bros. PB5950  FOUND
Lost and Found
Madden Football (AKA Maddenness)      CBS Electronics
Magnum, P.I.                          Studio Games
Marathon Man                          Sega
Marathon of Zenda                     Sega
Mark of the Mole                      Atari                  EXISTS?
M*A*S*H II                            20th-Fox               MAY EXIST
Master Cylinder                       Spectravision  SA-222
Masters of the Universe II            Mattel                 MAY EXIST
McDonald's                            Parker Bros.           FOUND
Meltdown                              20th-Fox       11029   FOUND
Meltdown (2600 version of 7800 title) Atari
Metamorphosis                         Data Age
Mickey and the Beanstalk              Atari
Mickey and the Great Outdoors         Atari
Micro Maestro                         Chalkboard Inc.
Microsurgeon                          Imagic                 INTELLIVISION
Midnight Rider                        Panda Inc.
Millipede (alternate version)         GCC                    FOUND
Millipede (hard version)              Dave Staugas - Atari
Mind Maze                             Atari                  FOUND
Mission: Impossible                   Sega
Mission Omega                         CommaVid       CM-010  MAY EXIST
Mission X                             Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Miss Piggy's Wedding                  Atari          CX26113 FOUND
Mogul Maniac (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga          3105    APM UNRELEASED
Monkey Business                       Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Monstercise                           Atari          CX26131 FOUND
Moon Base                             Technovision   TVS 1010
Moon Corridors (=Computer Corridor)   Mattel                 INTELLIVISION
Motorcycle Game (title unknown)       Activision             MAY EXIST
Motor Mouth                           Technovision   TVS 1006
Motor Psycho (AKA Motorcycle)         Atari          CX26141
Mouse Highway                         Technovision   TVS 1013
Mr. Bill's Neighborhood               Data Age
Mr. T                                 Data Age
Muffett                               Sega
Music Math                            Chalkboard Inc.
Mystic Castle                         M Network
Nineball                              Zimag                  8 BIT COMPUTERS
Noah and the Ark                      Sunrise
Nova Blast                            Imagic
Number Games (for Piggyback)          Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Off Your Rocker                       Amiga          3130    FOUND
Off Your Rocker (for Amiga Power Module)             3115    APM UNRELEASED
One Fish, Two Fish by Dr. Seuss       Coleco
Papa Smurf's Treasure Hunt            Coleco
Password                              Great Game Co.
Password Plus                         Great Game Co.
Peek-A-Boo                            Atari          CX26137 FOUND
Penetrator                            Avalon Hill            MAY EXIST
Pepper II                             Coleco         2655    MAY EXIST
Pepsi Invaders                        Atari                  FOUND
Pick Up                               20th-Fox       11034   FOUND
Pink Panther, The                     Probe 2000             EXISTS+ALIAS
Pipeline                              Atari                  MAY EXIST
Pizza Chef                            Zimag          713-111 FOUND
Planet of the Apes                    20th-Fox               FOUND-?
Planet Protector
Pleiades                              UA Ltd.                FOUND
Pogoman                               Computer Magic
Polo                                  Atari                  FOUND
Poltergeist                           Cumma
Pompeii                               Apollo         AP2011  FOUND
Popeye                                Atari                  PARKER
Porky's (alternate version)           20th-Fox               MAY EXIST
Power Lords: Quest for Vulcan         Probe 2000             EXISTS
Power Play Arcade 1 (multi-cart)      Amiga
Power Play Arcade 2 (multi-cart)      Amiga
Power Play Arcade 3 (multi-cart)      Amiga
Power Play Arcade 4 (multi-cart)      Amiga
Power Play Arcade 5 (multi-cart)      Amiga
Preppie                               Atari
Price is Right, The                   Great Game Co.
Protobob                              Spectravision  SA-209
Pursuit of the Pink Panther                                  EXISTS+ALIAS
Qix                                   Atari
Quest for Inca Gold                   Zimag                  8 BIT COMPUTERS
Quest for the Idol                    Ultravision            ALIAS?
Racer                                 Roklan                 EXISTS
Raiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg)   Atari                  MAY EXIST
Rally-X                               Atari
RealSports Basketball                 Atari          CX2679  FOUND/PAL
Real Time Chess (untitled)            Atari                  MAY EXIST
Red Sea Crossing                      Steve Stack, Inc.      MAY EXIST
Relax                                 Synapse
Rescue of Emmanuelle, The             Multivision            MAY EXIST
Retail Demo Cartridge (for Piggyback) Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Ripley's Believe It or Not            Roklan
River Rat                             Zimag                  8 BIT COMPUTERS
Roaring 20s                           20th-Fox               ALIAS
Robotron: 2084 (for The Graduate)     Atari                  MAY EXIST
Rocky & Bullwinkle                    Atari                  MATTEL
Rocky & Bullwinkle                    Mattel         4646    FOUND
Rocky Battles the Champ               Coleco         2652
Rodeo                                 Atari
Romper Room #1: Do Bee's 1st Alphabet Spectravision  SA-224
Romper Room #2: Countdown to Fun      Spectravision  SA-225
Romper Rm #3: The Str. Where You Live Spectravision  SA-226
Round-Up                              Atari
Rush Hour                             CommaVid       CM010   FOUND
Sabotage                              Ultravision
Saboteur                              Atari          CX26119 FOUND
S.A.C. Alert                          Amiga                  EXISTS
S.A.C. Alert (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga          2105    APM UNRELEASED
S.A.C. Alert (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga          3135    APM UNRELEASED
Safecracker                           Imagic
Save Mary                             Atari          CX26178 FOUND
Save the Whales                       20th-Fox       11035   FOUND
Scavenger Hunt                        Amiga          2100
Scavenger Hunt (for Amiga Power Module)                      APM UNRELEASED
Scooby Doo                            Atari
Scooby Doo                            M Network
Scramble                              GCE                    MILTON BRADLEY
Scramble                              Milton Bradley 3501
Scraper Caper                         Tigervision    7-010
Sea Battle                            Mattel         5860    FOUND
Secret Agent                          Data Age               FOUND
Sector Alpha                          Spectravision  SA-220
Sewer Sam                             Interphase             COLECOVISION
Sharp Shot                            Mattel                 MAY EXIST
Shooting Arcade                       Atari          CX26169 FOUND
Shoot-Out                             Technovision   TVS 100P
Silly Safari                          Technovision   TVS 1007
Sinistar                              Atari          CX26122 FOUND
Sinistar (Lou Harp version)           Atari?
Six Pack                              20th-Fox
Sky Blazer                            Br0derbund             MAY EXIST
Sky Lancer                            Tigervision    7-014
Sky Patrol                            Imagic         IA3409  FOUND
Smokey Bear                           Data Age
Smurfette's Birthday (for KidVid)     Coleco
Snark                                 Atari                  MAY EXIST
Snowplow                              Sunrise                MAY EXIST
Snow White                            Atari          CX26107 FOUND
Soap Suds                             First Star             ALIAS
Solar Defense                         Venture Vision         MAY EXIST
Solo                                  Br0derbund             MAY EXIST
Spacechase (monogrammed)              Apollo                 EXISTS
Space Grid                            Action Hi-Tech         EXISTS
Space Maze                            Telesys
Space Mines                           Zimag                  8 BIT COMPUTERS
Space Mission                         Atari          CX2603  ALIAS+EXISTS
Space Robot                           Ultravision            DIMAX+OTHERS?
Space War                             Ultravision    1002    COLECOVISION
Speed Reading (for Piggyback)         Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Spelling 1 (for Piggyback)            Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Spelling Games (for Piggyback)        Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Spider Kong                           Ultravision            GOLIATH?
Spinning Fireball                     Zimag                  FOUND
Splendour                             Bomb                   MAY EXIST
Sports Statistics (for Piggyback)     Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Squish 'em                            Sirius
   (a homebrew port of this game has been released)
Squoosh                               Apollo         AP2012  FOUND
Star Castle                           Atari          CX2655  ALIAS
Star Raiders II                       Atari          CX26134 ALIAS?
Star Trek                             GCE                    MILTON BRADLEY
Star Trek: The Motion Picture         Milton Bradley 3500
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan       Sega
Star Trek III: The Search For Spock   Sega           007-01
Star Wars: Ewok Adventure             Parker Bros.   PB5060  FOUND
Star Wars: RotJ: Game I               Parker Bros.   PB5060  FOUND/ALIAS
Star Wars: RotJ: Game II              Parker Bros.   PB5065  ALIAS
Steeplechase                          Atari          CX2614  SEARS
Stellar Track                         Atari          CX2619  SEARS
Stomp It                              CBS Electronics
Stone Age                             Technovision   TVS1014 CCE?
Strafe (for Amiga Power Module)       Amiga          2115    APM UNRELEASED
Street Fight                          Atari          CX26167
Stunt Cycle                           Atari                  FOUND-?
St. Valentine's Day Massacre          20th-Fox
Submarine Commander                   Atari          CX2647  SEARS
Submarine Simulator (untitled)        Atari                  MAY EXIST
Subterfuge                            Sega                   ALIAS
Super Crush                           Tigervision    7-015
Super Cycle                           Epyx
Super Pac-Man                         Atari                  MAY EXIST
Super Scramble                        Konami
Super Soccer                          Atari          CX26138
Super Stunt Cycle                     Atari
Surfing (see Candyland Surfing)
Surf's Up                             Amiga          3125    FOUND
Surf's Up (for Amiga Power Module)    Amiga          3110    APM UNRELEASED
Surround II                           Atari          CX26158
Survival Run                          Data Age (not MB)      FOUND
Sweat: The Decathlon Game             Starpath               FOUND
Swim Meet (AKA Swimming Contest)      Ultravision    1005    COLECOVISION
Sword and the Sorceror, The           Coleco         291905
Sword Fight (AKA Sword, Swordfighting)Mattel                 FOUND
Swordquest: Airworld                  Atari          CX2672  MAY EXIST
Tachyon Beam                          Technovision   TVS 1012
Tank Blitz                            Milton Bradley         MAY EXIST
Tank City                             Action Hi-Tech         EXISTS
Targ                                  CBS Electronics        FOUND
Tarzan                                Coleco         2662    MAY EXIST
Telepathy                             Atari                  FOUND
Tempest                               Atari          CX2687  FOUND
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The (alt.)   Wizard                 EXISTS
Thundarr the Barbarian I              Xonox          X404X   ALIAS
Thundarr the Barbarian II             Xonox                  ?
Thunderfox                            Atari          CX26153
Thwocker                              Activision             FOUND
Tic-Tac-Dough                         Great Game Co.
Tic-Tac-Strip                         Multivision
Time Scape                            Spectravision  SA-213
Touch Typing (for Piggyback)          Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Trail of the Pink Panther             U.S. Games             EXISTS+ALIAS
TRON Deadly Discs/Adventures of TRON  M Network      MT4609  RELEASED(seprt)
Turbo                                 Atari          CX26148 DROPPED/COLECO
Turbo                                 Coleco         2455    EXISTS
Twister
Typo Attack (for The Graduate)        Atari                  GRAD UNRELEASED
Underworld                            CommaVid               MAY EXIST
Unexpected Dangers                    Ultravision    1009    COLECOVISION
Unknown Activision Game #1 (SCRMNN)   Activision             FOUND
Unknown Activision Game #2 (MM)       Activision             FOUND
Unknown Activision Game #3 (Submarine Game)
Unknown Bear Game                     Sega
Unknown Datatech Game                 Datatech
Unknown Universal Game                Universal              FOUND
Up & Atom                             Telesys
Venetian Blinds Demo                  Activision             FOUND
Vertinko                              Spectravision
Video Fitness                         System Garden
Vortex                                Spectravision
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea       20th-Fox               ALIAS
War of the Worlds                     Sega
War Room                              Probe 2000
War Zone                              Action Hi-Tech         EXISTS
Wheel of Fortune                      Great Game Co.
White Water Madness                   Atari          CX26184 VAPOR
Wild Western                          Coleco         2660
Wings                                 CBS Electronics        FOUND
Wizard                                Atari                  FOUND
Word Games (for Piggyback)            Entex                  PGBK UNRELEASED
Xevious                               Atari          CX2695  FOUND
XIV Winter Olympics                   M Network      MT4324
Zaxxon                                Atari          CX26149 COLECO
Zenji                                 Activision
Zookeeper                             Atari          CX26121 PARTS EXIST

9x Unknown Titles                     J.S. & A. Group, Inc.
                                      (= Joseph Sugarman and Associates)
 (These titles may not be originals, but merely existing titles whose rights
  J.S. & A. purchased to help sell their unreleased PROM Blaster copier.
  It's also possible that they never existed at all.)


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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:27 PM

If you have knowledge that Sewer Sam was never intended to be a VCS title, please share. Even better, would be to find the reference which erroneously reported it as planned or in production for the VCS -- but it sounds to me like this is exactly what you're wondering.

AFAIK Sewer Sam was never planned for the VCS, but for the Intellivision and Colecovision.

What about Blockade Runner, the other Interphase title in the list?

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:06 PM

If you have knowledge that Sewer Sam was never intended to be a VCS title, please share. Even better, would be to find the reference which erroneously reported it as planned or in production for the VCS -- but it sounds to me like this is exactly what you're wondering.


I can find quite a few games that I am certain were never intended for release on the 2600. Sewer Sam being one. Unfortunately it is much harder to track down why it got on the list in the first place than finding a proto of some of the games.

Edited by SpaceDice2010, Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:07 PM.


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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:14 PM

If you have knowledge that Sewer Sam was never intended to be a VCS title, please share. Even better, would be to find the reference which erroneously reported it as planned or in production for the VCS -- but it sounds to me like this is exactly what you're wondering.

AFAIK Sewer Sam was never planned for the VCS, but for the Intellivision and Colecovision.

What about Blockade Runner, the other Interphase title in the list?

Pulling off a game like Sewer Sam on the 2600 would be quite a task. Futhermore, Interphase never announced any titles for the 2600 that I know of.

I don't know what the exact source of this list is, but a lot of the entries found in the DP guide and on old collecting lists from RGVC (which this list may be) are bogus. In many cases, people just assumed that because a certain game was released on various platforms that there must've/might've been a 2600 version planned for development. Zenji by Activision is a perfect example of this...no VCS version of this game was ever announced or even planned (per designer Matthew Hubbard), but the title shows up on old collecting lists regardless (and thus is included on the above list).

This list above contains several errors. For one, 'The Rescue of Emmanuelle' was a planned Gamex title. You have it incorrectly marked as Multivision.

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:03 PM

Actually. And this is strange. When you Google "sewer sam atari" it does show up in Google like there is talk on that page of sewer being ported to Atari. That is the absolute first I heard of that. But, of course, the source of the page intellivision lives is messed up again w/ a db error.

http://www.google.co...sewer sam atari

This is one I still doubt and would love to see the source.

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:54 PM

Actually. And this is strange. When you Google "sewer sam atari" it does show up in Google like there is talk on that page of sewer being ported to Atari. That is the absolute first I heard of that. But, of course, the source of the page intellivision lives is messed up again w/ a db error.

http://www.google.co...sewer sam atari

This is one I still doubt and would love to see the source.

The Google cache works, and the page says of both Interphase titles (Blockade Runner and Sewer Sam) that "Advertised versions for Atari and Commodore 64 were not released."

On the page, there's also a lo-res scan of an Interphase magazine ad; it's hard to make out the fine print, but the large print at the bottom definitely says "Coming Soon; ColecoVision, Commodore 64 and Atari!" (as well as saying it's "now available for Intellivision"). However, it doesn't specify the Atari 2600/VCS, so it could be the 8-bit or 5200 for all I/we know.

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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:04 PM

I got Google's cached version of that Intellivision Lives page to load. Its wording is deceptive, and the advertisement shown as well as the page itself, probably are the sources of the misinformation in this list regarding Interphase. The webpage says of both games that, "Advertised versions for Atari and Commodore 64 were not released." Note that "Atari" could easily be misconstrued as the VCS, while by way of juxtaposition with the C-64 here, and even more clearly in the ad, where "Atari" follows "Commodore 64", it most likely refers instead to the 8-bit computer systems.

Edited by A.J. Franzman, Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:24 PM.


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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:12 PM

I don't know what the exact source of this list is, but a lot of the entries found in the DP guide and on old collecting lists from RGVC (which this list may be) are bogus. In many cases, people just assumed that because a certain game was released on various platforms that there must've/might've been a 2600 version planned for development. Zenji by Activision is a perfect example of this...no VCS version of this game was ever announced or even planned (per designer Matthew Hubbard), but the title shows up on old collecting lists regardless (and thus is included on the above list).

OK, so what was the primary platform intended for Zenji's release?


This list above contains several errors. For one, 'The Rescue of Emmanuelle' was a planned Gamex title. You have it incorrectly marked as Multivision.

Not my error, but please continue. I'm not actively researching this stuff; only feedback from members like you can make this list as accurate as possible.

What else is wrong with it?

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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:11 AM

OK, so what was the primary platform intended for Zenji's release?

Zenji was an original title for the Atari home computers. As Matthew Hubbard stated in this interview...

"I started Zenji on the 400/800. It was not planned to be a 2600 game, and I never worked on any port of it to any other system. All the ports were done by others."

What else is wrong with it?

I'll look through the whole thing tomorrow and make note of any errors I see.

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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:19 AM

I got Google's cached version of that Intellivision Lives page to load. Its wording is deceptive, and the advertisement shown as well as the page itself, probably are the sources of the misinformation in this list regarding Interphase. The webpage says of both games that, "Advertised versions for Atari and Commodore 64 were not released." Note that "Atari" could easily be misconstrued as the VCS, while by way of juxtaposition with the C-64 here, and even more clearly in the ad, where "Atari" follows "Commodore 64", it most likely refers instead to the 8-bit computer systems.


It was my understanding that Interphase did plan on releasing games for Atari and Commodore computers, but not the VCS.

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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:32 AM

I guess one question I have is what is the criteria for being listed on the list. There was a lot of hot air from many of the companies at the time.

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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:41 PM

Any software that a consumer might have been reasonably led to believe was due to be released for the VCS during its originally supported timeframe (1977-1992) is fair game. I'm also including games and applications that were programmed during that time, which almost no one knew about, that have subsequently been discovered. Only those that actually saw wide release under their announced title, by the company that announced them, are ineligible. Defining exactly what constitutes "wide release" is somewhat problematic. I include in that category the Atari-Club-only releases. But I'm not counting Dukes of Hazzard as a wide release (even though it was reportedly made available [how?] to some people in very limited quantity), so it gets to stay in the list. Pepsi Invaders is a similar story. I'm thinking Air Raid should probably be eligible as well.

Opinions?

Edited by A.J. Franzman, Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:58 PM.


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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:58 PM

If you do decide to remove entries from the main list, like Blockade Runner/Sewer Sam, it'd be good to maintain an addendum that includes them -- ideally with explanations. (The best thing of all would be to have a Wikipedia-style sortable table, but I know that's a big ask.)

Also, totally OT, but these lists are showing up in all kinds of funky colors on my machine. Mostly it switches between purple and green every time there's an apostrophe. Is it just me?




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