Digital Joysticks provide better control than Analog Joysticks

[JamesD]

I know of very few absolute truths. Can you name a few, or maybe even one?

 

ATARI 2600 RULES!

Sorry but you didn't qualify that.

Rules what?

What is your sample size?

What are the controls on your experiment?

Did you use an analog or digital controller?

Rufuted!

:D :D :D

[bmcnett]

even if atariksi spoke in a familiar lingo, you'd have to wonder what his motivations are for doing this on a computer nostalgia forum.

 

every day, real people die for lack of ability to control their car with an analog wheel and pedals. every year, terrorists escape assassination and innocent civilians are killed for lack of ability to control robot airplanes with an analog stick from a trailer near Las Vegas. millions of dollars are at stake in auto racing with analog wheels, and hundreds of thousands are at stake in professional computer gaming. witness this unfortunate Korean who knows no better than to use an analog mouse to play games:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q

 

if atariksi sincerely believed that digital controls are always provably superior, he could save many lives and perhaps make money for himself and others by acting on his belief.

 

since he has already proven his theory beyond any shadow of a doubt on this forum, atariksi has a moral duty to stop engaging with trolls and step out into the real world, where the absolute truth about joysticks can save real human lives.

 

every day atariksi chooses to spend hours in pointless argument with envious snakes and skunks, living human people continue to die for lack of knowledge about digital control.

Edited January 7, 2011 by bmcnett

[atariksi]

Actually, you can play the Atari 5200 games with Wico, PC joysticks (a couple of capacitors to convert the resistance levels), Masterplay, and digital joysticks and many have done this. And many people in this forum are familiar with PC analog joystick-based games, Atari 5200, and A8 games as is evident from the discussion.

 

You can even hook up digital sticks too!

 

So why is this not a better topic for the 5200 forum?

It started there and somehow spilled over to this forum. I think the 5200 folks got tired of it so now we get to deal with the fun.

 

Yeah, it did spill over from there as there was no challenge there. But as you can see from the discussion, there are a lot of analog followers on the A8 forum (blindly I may add).

[Bryan]

So, here's the entire synopsis of this thread:

 

Question Posed:

 

Which joystick do you prefer when playing games? See the picture which contains what you are choosing from (or similar ones). Arrow keys are not pictured because they are front of you as you read this. Only one digital joystick is in the picture.

 

Fair enough. The 1st reply was succinct and I believe the majority opinion:

 

Depends entirely on the game. PacMan is definitely better with a digital stick, but a flight-simulator is much better with analog control.

 

And here's what atariksi thinks of those who participate:

 

But as you can see from the discussion, there are a lot of analog followers on the A8 forum (blindly I may add).

 

Someone who might use an analog stick is an "analog follower" and is "blind".

 

Grade 'A' sphincter if you ask me.

[+Stephen]

Good luck playing this game with digital joysticks

Yawn, who wants to play xbl. Try some pacman with that analog stick. good luck..

 

I can't tell from that video link what's so analogish about that game or would require analog joystick(s).

I think we are all aware that you will refuse to acknowledge that any game would be superior with or require analog joysticks.

Anyone that has played it would quickly disagree with you.

It's also ridiculous to see "what's so analogish about that game" without PLAYING it. Isn't this entire thread about experimentation? You cannot tell how a game plays by watching it.

[+Stephen]

Actually, you can play the Atari 5200 games with Wico, PC joysticks (a couple of capacitors to convert the resistance levels), Masterplay, and digital joysticks and many have done this. And many people in this forum are familiar with PC analog joystick-based games, Atari 5200, and A8 games as is evident from the discussion.

 

You can even hook up digital sticks too!

 

So why is this not a better topic for the 5200 forum?

It started there and somehow spilled over to this forum. I think the 5200 folks got tired of it so now we get to deal with the fun.

 

Yeah, it did spill over from there as there was no challenge there. But as you can see from the discussion, there are a lot of analog followers on the A8 forum (blindly I may add).

Try to be non-biased and non-emotional. Just because someone does not agree with your opinion does not make them blind, nor does it make them a mindless follower.

 

Some might say that you are just a "blind follower" of your Krishna faith. Anybody who follows any faith is a blind follower.

[+Stephen]

So, here's the entire synopsis of this thread:

 

Question Posed:

 

Which joystick do you prefer when playing games? See the picture which contains what you are choosing from (or similar ones). Arrow keys are not pictured because they are front of you as you read this. Only one digital joystick is in the picture.

 

Fair enough. The 1st reply was succinct and I believe the majority opinion:

 

Depends entirely on the game. PacMan is definitely better with a digital stick, but a flight-simulator is much better with analog control.

 

And here's what atariksi thinks of those who participate:

 

But as you can see from the discussion, there are a lot of analog followers on the A8 forum (blindly I may add).

 

Someone who might use an analog stick is an "analog follower" and is "blind".

 

Grade 'A' sphincter if you ask me.

Thanks for that quote. You see that this entire thread could have been over and done with less than 30 minutes after it began.

[Divya16]

even if atariksi spoke in a familiar lingo, you'd have to wonder what his motivations are for doing this on a computer nostalgia forum.

Two mistakes in one sentence. People are familiar with what he writes otherwise you wouldn't have such a big thread (and there were others in history of AtariAge). *YOU* are not familiar or are speculating things off-topic and trying to confuse things. Second mistake-- it's not a nostalgia forum-- another one of your unfounded speculations. Some people love their Ataris and their games. What's highly in suspense is WHAT IS YOUR motivation for continuing to try to mock people's philosophy and character of others with your fictional tales. Don't impose your misunderstandings on others.

 

every day atariksi chooses to spend hours in pointless argument with envious snakes and skunks, living human people continue to die for lack of knowledge about digital control.

So you're not going to google "skunks" in his philosophical texts and reach another absurd conclusion that that also is somehow a religious thing. What a dumb fool.

[Divya16]

So, here's the entire synopsis of this thread:

 

Question Posed:

 

Which joystick do you prefer when playing games? See the picture which contains what you are choosing from (or similar ones). Arrow keys are not pictured because they are front of you as you read this. Only one digital joystick is in the picture.

 

Fair enough. The 1st reply was succinct and I believe the majority opinion:

 

Depends entirely on the game. PacMan is definitely better with a digital stick, but a flight-simulator is much better with analog control.

That's not the majority view. At least you can't tell that from the thread.

 

And here's what atariksi thinks of those who participate:

 

But as you can see from the discussion, there are a lot of analog followers on the A8 forum (blindly I may add).

 

Someone who might use an analog stick is an "analog follower" and is "blind".

 

Grade 'A' sphincter if you ask me.

 

That's your interpretation. People who voted analog and argue in favor of analog aren't of the view that you claim to be a majority view. If they were neutral, they wouldn't vote. Analog follower would be one that follows analog side not neutral.

[Divya16]

Good luck playing this game with digital joysticks

Yawn, who wants to play xbl. Try some pacman with that analog stick. good luck..

 

I can't tell from that video link what's so analogish about that game or would require analog joystick(s).

I think we are all aware that you will refuse to acknowledge that any game would be superior with or require analog joysticks.

Anyone that has played it would quickly disagree with you.

 

No, I have played missile command with analog joysticks and if that's all I did, I would also think it requires analog joystick. However, some have made a digital joystick version and it plays better. So I am not jumping to a conclusion that it must require an analog joystick.

[Divya16]

So, here's the entire synopsis of this thread:

 

Question Posed:

 

Which joystick do you prefer when playing games? See the picture which contains what you are choosing from (or similar ones). Arrow keys are not pictured because they are front of you as you read this. Only one digital joystick is in the picture.

 

Fair enough. The 1st reply was succinct and I believe the majority opinion:

 

Depends entirely on the game. PacMan is definitely better with a digital stick, but a flight-simulator is much better with analog control.

 

And here's what atariksi thinks of those who participate:

 

But as you can see from the discussion, there are a lot of analog followers on the A8 forum (blindly I may add).

 

Someone who might use an analog stick is an "analog follower" and is "blind".

 

Grade 'A' sphincter if you ask me.

Thanks for that quote. You see that this entire thread could have been over and done with less than 30 minutes after it began.

Now apply your advice form post #1706 to post #1707.

QED.

[Divya16]

Actually, you can play the Atari 5200 games with Wico, PC joysticks (a couple of capacitors to convert the resistance levels), Masterplay, and digital joysticks and many have done this. And many people in this forum are familiar with PC analog joystick-based games, Atari 5200, and A8 games as is evident from the discussion.

 

You can even hook up digital sticks too!

 

So why is this not a better topic for the 5200 forum?

It started there and somehow spilled over to this forum. I think the 5200 folks got tired of it so now we get to deal with the fun.

 

Yeah, it did spill over from there as there was no challenge there. But as you can see from the discussion, there are a lot of analog followers on the A8 forum (blindly I may add).

Try to be non-biased and non-emotional. Just because someone does not agree with your opinion does not make them blind, nor does it make them a mindless follower.

 

Some might say that you are just a "blind follower" of your Krishna faith. Anybody who follows any faith is a blind follower.

That's your blind understanding. There are many proofs of things in the philosophy that are easily repeatable. The entire science of medicine in the Vedas is used even in modern world to cure things like cancer, heart disease, etc. So just speculating "it's blind following" is your speculation.

[Bryan]

Thanks for that quote. You see that this entire thread could have been over and done with less than 30 minutes after it began.

You're welcome.

 

Now... ALL HAIL STEPHEN!

 

Listen to him or be a blind and envious follower. Listen not to the false teacher who wears a dress. Do not mess up in understanding!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how's that?

[+Stephen]

That's not the majority view. At least you can't tell that from the thread.

And here's what atariksi thinks of those who participate:

Who cares what the majority think? It doesn't validate my (or their) opinions. Nor does being in the majority give your opinions any more "cred".

 

Funny - that is the mentality of a "blind follower". Why do feel the need to be in the majority? Do you like blindly following? I think you do, as you always point out harshly in others what you do more of.

 

Potatohead can add that to his ever growing list.

[+Stephen]

Some might say that you are just a "blind follower" of your Krishna faith. Anybody who follows any faith is a blind follower.

That's your blind understanding. There are many proofs of things in the philosophy that are easily repeatable. The entire science of medicine in the Vedas is used even in modern world to cure things like cancer, heart disease, etc. So just speculating "it's blind following" is your speculation.

If anything it would be my lack of understanding - nothing blind about it. However, it is not. I understand many things quite well.

 

I still say you are a blind follower and any faith requires blindly following it. Once you start questioning it or using reason to speak against it, you are no longer blindly following, and are no longer faithful. Simple enough to understand?

[+Stephen]

Now apply your advice form post #1706 to post #1707.

QED.

Please tell me where the emotion is in my post? I tell you atariksi - even when you are wearing your dress, you still don't have the slightest understanding of humor. That to me is extremely humorous.

[bmcnett]

it's not a nostalgia forum... Some people love their Ataris and their games.

 

Yeah that doesn't demonstrate sincerity or clear understanding. The primary motivation for nearly everyone who comes here is to relive warm feelings of nostalgia for a beloved old computer. I'm no different - I owned an 800XL for years and loved it to death. Nowadays, I run my favorite old games in emulators sometimes. I'm not hardcore like some people, but there's room here for everyone.

 

I came to visit atariage.com for... about five years? before realizing that you were even here. I don't even remember you talking about Atari years ago, but I guess you've been at it all these years.

 

What's highly in suspense is WHAT IS YOUR motivation for continuing to try to mock people's philosophy and character of others with your fictional tales. Don't impose your misunderstandings on others.

 

You keep generalizing as if there were two groups of people here, when in fact there are three:

 

1. THE VAST MAJORITY - wishes this whole thread would vanish into a black hole, along with all memories it ever existed

2. A HALF DOZEN GRUMPY OLD MEN - taking a rhetorical bat to atariksi's pinata

3. ATARIKSI - attempting the troll to end all trolls, all by his lonesome

 

To be frank, your beliefs are fascinating to me but I don't care all that much about them. I think they're a useful prism for attempting to make sense of your outlandish words, and that's it.

[Divya16]

That's not the majority view. At least you can't tell that from the thread.

And here's what atariksi thinks of those who participate:

Who cares what the majority think? It doesn't validate my (or their) opinions. Nor does being in the majority give your opinions any more "cred".

 

Funny - that is the mentality of a "blind follower". Why do feel the need to be in the majority? Do you like blindly following? I think you do, as you always point out harshly in others what you do more of.

 

Potatohead can add that to his ever growing list.

 

You are the blind follower since you accepted Bryan's remark which is false or at least unverifiable. I wasn't saying "majority makes right". All I said was quoted above regarding majority. It's just his speculation. If you follow his or bmcnett's or anyone's speculation, you are a blind follower. If you follow something that's proven or is proveable, you are NOT a blind follower.

[Divya16]

it's not a nostalgia forum... Some people love their Ataris and their games.

 

Yeah that doesn't demonstrate sincerity or clear understanding. The primary motivation for nearly everyone who comes here is to relive warm feelings of nostalgia for a beloved old computer. I'm no different - I owned an 800XL for years and loved it to death. Nowadays, I run my favorite old games in emulators sometimes. I'm not hardcore like some people, but there's room here for everyone.

You are generalizing while accusing others. I play Atari games more than my Nintendo/PSP games. It's nothing to do with nostalgia. The games provide better control on the Atari (reason for this thread) and easier to play, simpler to use (no instructions required), fast booting (cartridges), etc. You are here to spew out your venom as is obvious to the unbiased.

 

I came to visit atariage.com for... about five years? before realizing that you were even here. I don't even remember you talking about Atari years ago, but I guess you've been at it all these years.

I don't even know you until you popped out from nonexistence a few days ago.

 

What's highly in suspense is WHAT IS YOUR motivation for continuing to try to mock people's philosophy and character of others with your fictional tales. Don't impose your misunderstandings on others.

 

You keep generalizing as if there were two groups of people here, when in fact there are three:

 

1. THE VAST MAJORITY - wishes this whole thread would vanish into a black hole, along with all memories it ever existed

2. A HALF DOZEN GRUMPY OLD MEN - taking a rhetorical bat to atariksi's pinata

3. ATARIKSI - attempting the troll to end all trolls, all by his lonesome

 

To be frank, your beliefs are fascinating to me but I don't care all that much about them. I think they're a useful prism for attempting to make sense of your outlandish words, and that's it.

 

(1) is speculation. I know people aren't interested in truth as they rather blindly follow what is the standard nowadays (analog joysticks), but that's why this forum and others like it are good. They allow one to do what they like rather than go with blind followers of majority.

(2) another speculation. Have you ever proved anything in your life or just keep spewing out your drivel. You don't know me nor AtariKSI nor what we use our machines for. You are blind idiot who has nothing better to do in his life except to try to force people to accept his blind beliefs. That's right-- you are following blindly until you prove your remarks.

(3) Yet another speculation. You are really full of drivel. Why don't you take out your frustrations on someone else. You are the REAL troll-- all you have stated is off-topic things intending to mock others personal lives or their philosophies. Get a life. Get yourself a real atari machine to play with.

[Albert]

This thread is cooked.

 

..Al