carmel_andrews Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Text taken from the wiki thing (I know that i shouldn't be using this as referrence mat. but what else is there) Jaguar[7] Batman Forever Creature Shock (Unreleased) Mortal Kombat 3 Soulstar X (Unreleased) Tomb Raider Robinsons Requiem (Unreleased) Phear (Tetrisphear) Acro Age Of Darkness Akira Alien Vs Predator 2 Alien Vs Predator CD Allegiance Al Michaels Announces Hardball III Alone In The Dark American Football American Hero Another World: Out Of This World Apeshit Arena Football League Artemis The Assassin Assault: Covert Ops Asteroids Atari Mascot Game Automaniacs Azeron Bases Loaded Batman Forever Batman: The Animated Series Battle Chess Battle Sonics Battlewheels 2025 Bios Fear Black ICE\White Noise (Unreleased) Brett Hull Hockey Brett Hull Hockey CD Bugs Bunny's Cartoon Capers Casino Royale Caves of Fear League Bowling (CD) Center Court Tennis Centipede 2000 Charles Barkley 'Shut Up And Jam' Basketball Cheesy Chuck Norris Rangers Circle Of Four Cisco Heat Clay Fighters The Cleansing: Starring Bill Donahue Commander Blood Commando Conan The Barbarian Country Grid Creature Shock Crime Patrol Cyber Space Cyber Punk City Dactyl Joust Dante's Inferno Deathwatch Defcon 1 Dark Knight Demolition Man Deus Ex Machina - 2nd part of the Robinson's Requiem series Dino Dudes 2 Dracula The Undead Dragon's Lair II Time Warp Dream Web Droppings Dune Racer Dungeon Depths Earthworm Jim Earthworm Jim 2 European Soccer Challenge Evidence Falcon FIFA International Soccer Freelancer 2120 Frank Thomas' Big Hurt Baseball Galactic Gladiators Gotcha! Graham Gooch's World Class Cricket Gravon VR Gunfight Max Gunship 2000 Hardball III Heart Of Darkness Highlander II Highlander III Horrorscrope Hosenose And Booger Indiana Jags Inferno Iratan Supremacy Iron Man / XO-Manowar Ishar Genesis Isle Of The Dead Jack Nicklaus Cyber Golf Jag Bomberman James Pond 3 Operation Starfish Jimmy Connors Pro Tennis Kart Cybervision Kasumi Ninja II Kick Off 3 - World Cup Kid Grid Kingdom - The Far Reaches Legion Force Jidai Force Design Force Design Legions Of The Undead Lester The Unlikely Livewire Lion Hart Litil Divil Lobo [[Mad Dog McCree American Laser Games]] Major Havoc (2000) Magic Carpet CD (PC, Saturn, PSX) Max Force / Nerf Max Force Mech Tiles Wes Craven presents: Mind-Ripper (CD) Miniature Golf Mortal Kombat III (CD) (Genesis, PC, Saturn, PSX) Mountain Sports Nanoterror Native Navy Command The Need For Speed (CD) (PC, 3DO, PSX) Nerves Of Steel (PC) Neurodancer (CD) (PC) No Second Prize Off Road Rally Oracle Octave Orb Of Banzai The Outpost Painter Phase Zero Pitfall II Powerdrive Power Glide Powerslide Quake Rainbow Warrior Redemption Return Fire Return Of Magic Return To Zork Rise Of The Robots River Raid Robotron: 2084 Rocky Rollcage S.A.I. Corps Band In The Box Entertainment Scottish Open Virtual Golf (CD) The Shadow Sinister Missions CD Slam Racer Skeeball Snap Dragon Soul Star CD Space Pirates CD Space War 2000 Starlight Bowl-A-Rama CD Starnet Star Trek: The Next Generation Striker '95 (cart+CD) Stunt Car Racer ? ? Sudden Impact ? ? Super Off-Road ? Telegames Swagman (CD) Core Design ? PSX T-Mek (PC, 32X) Tennis TFX (PC) Thea Realm Fighters High Voltage Software Atari Thunderhawk CD Core Design ? Thunderstalker CD Telegames Telegames These two items are probably the same but they are listed separately. Thunderstalker Telegames Telegames Tiny Toon Adventures ? Atari? Tomb Raider Core Design ? Also referred to as Laura Cruz: Tomb Raider PC, Saturn, PSX Toki: Going Ape Spit ? Ocean Screenshots exist... internal project name might have been 'Ape Shit' Twin Crystals Ultimate Brain Games Valus Force Varuna's Forces Video Jukebox Virtual VCS Virtual Warriors Virtuoso Warlock Waterworld Wayne Gretzky NHL Hockey Wild Cup Soccer Wing Commander III Witchwood World Circuit World Cup X-Racers Zodiac Fighters Zone Hunter ZZyorxx II That is a heck of a lot of 'cancelled' or abandoned projects (games) there Is there a referrence point for finding out if these games/projects actually got started (i.e code actually exists) Seeming as though AA (as well as other jaguar fan sites, like fjp/jsii etc etc) have an increasing ammount of jaguar programmers/coders etc (codeheads) perhaps if some code exists for some or most of these games then AA and the jaguar coders/programmers could work out some sort of deal with the original project/game owners and try ressurecting/reviving the projects/games etc Even if half of those games exist as code, going by the current rate of finished jaguar projects (homebrews etc), that is enough work/games for at least 4-5 years Anyone!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 How about you go over to JSII and read the hundreds of threads on this very topic? For a simple example you would know that Robinsons Requiem has been found and Songbird has it, but has yet to announce its release. Or the fact that Ultimate Brain Games has been foun and released in it's incomplete form... The other issue is the majority of these games will involve liscensing issues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKC Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 A finished copy of Native? Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I wrote the big guide on them over at JS2 that Orpheuswaking has mentioned and while I have never got round to doing write-ups on every game I have detailed the current status of pretty much all of them. I doubt the guide at JS2 will ever be finished but I will be publishing an updated one somewhere else very soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_rg Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 When you include the info for SoulStar, I'd like it to say 'fully working version, soon to be released by Reboot' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Did you get the permission from Core/Eidos then? Congrats!!! The guide just like the one on JS2 only covers lost & unreleased games. I got some great information from some people in the last week too on both lost Jaguar and Lynx games!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_rg Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 We will be giving an ISO image of the game away for free, just like on JS2. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKC Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I wrote the big guide on them over at JS2 that Orpheuswaking has mentioned and while I have never got round to doing write-ups on every game I have detailed the current status of pretty much all of them. I doubt the guide at JS2 will ever be finished but I will be publishing an updated one somewhere else very soon Can you post a link to this guide? I tried to find it but no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 You need to be a member there to see it and you need to have a certain amount of posts although not sure how many that is, you would have to check with the admin there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 When you include the info for SoulStar, I'd like it to say 'fully working version, soon to be released by Reboot' That's gonna be a good day in jaguar land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 DreamcastRIP over JS2 found this Jag DOOM II! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 DreamcastRIP over JS2 found this Jag DOOM II! So does "Chad Max" have any leads to the Doom 2 whereabouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Moss Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Short answer, sure they can be resurected if someone wanted to write them from scratch. Long answer, no, not unless a significant amount of source code can be found that can be used as a basis to work from then for most of those probably not espically when you consider the currently small amount of people with the skills and Jaguar programming experiance to actually do it. I don't think anything other that a couple of screen shot still exitst of James Garvins projects (The Assassain, Age of Darkness and Scent of the Spider), there might be enought of BIWN to finish it eventaully. I belive the American Hero source code and all the video clips are now availabe so that has the most chance of actually being finished and possibly Verunas Forces as I belive some code for that exists as does the level editor. Painter has you probably know has been finished and released on both CD and Cart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 The sadest thing is that there are quite a few games on that list that were finished and never released but the source code/rom has since been lost. For example Kick Off 3 by Anco, Dragon's Lair 2: Timewarp and Creature Shock CD by Argonaut. All those 3 and more were confirmed at some point as being "complete" by the original programmers but also lost There are also a bunch of games on the list that existed in unfinished/prototype form at some point and have been lost. This includes games such as Quake by ID Software, Tomb Raider by Core Design and Mortal Kombat 3 by Midway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I see 15 games in that list that have a playable Alpha, very playable beta, nearly complete beta or completely finished games that have been released free or for money, or are awaiting release. Sorry, I don't feel like listing them all. Many more in that above list that have something available for them, like some source code or whatever. Though those 15 may be all we get, unless the several in the list that are known to be finished, but are still lost ever show up, which tends to get less and less likely as time passes, but, the glimmer of hope is that titles for the 2600 and other systems are still being found after 20 or 30 years, but they were also much more extensive systems (games library) and lasted much longer than the Jaguar. Many of the titles in that list were merely announced and never got any further than that, as far as we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKC Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Anyone got any info or idea on what Songbird's mystery projects may be? I Understand they are "mystery" projects but we all know how things like that go. Edited November 6, 2010 by GKC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 1 of them is Robinson's Requiem and its been rumoured that the other is Dactyl Joust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKC Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 1 of them is Robinson's Requiem and its been rumoured that the other is Dactyl Joust. Cool. Do we know if these will be completed or unfinised releases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Robinson's Requiem CD is 100% finished, its been floating around for ages but there was trouble trying to get the rights for it. I highly doubt that Dactyl Joust is anywhere near finished, if its the secret project that is 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKC Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Robinson's Requiem CD is 100% finished, its been floating around for ages but there was trouble trying to get the rights for it. I highly doubt that Dactyl Joust is anywhere near finished, if its the secret project that is Excellent Laird thanks. I love that there are still being games released for the Jag. Edited November 6, 2010 by GKC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 1 of them is Robinson's Requiem and its been rumoured that the other is Dactyl Joust. Dactyl Joust would be awesome. The vid that was floating around many years ago was very impressive looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 1 of them is Robinson's Requiem and its been rumoured that the other is Dactyl Joust. The other one could also be the lost Ishar III from the same people as Robinson's R., it could be he's secretly gotten the source code for his Phase Zero demo and a finished game is coming. But I'd like to point out that even Robinson's Requiem isn't yet proven to be the first "mystery project", IIRC, he had those 2 "mystery projects" listed before Carl got his hands on RR (which also hasn't been proven, I don't think, that he was the one who bought the game from JaySmith2000, Jay, you haven't told yet, right?). It may be that if Carl is the one with RR (which I do believe), that it's seperate from the two "mystery projects" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Jay confirmed that he sold RR to Carl and that he was going to release it some time ago now The other rumoured game is of course Mortal Kombat 3. We know that it was close to being finished if not finished as there are people who have played it and it was shown to the press too. When Carl got Total Carnage from Midway he did mention something about the possiblity of some other games and shortly afterwards the Dactyl Joust (also by Midway) video appeared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Out of all the possibilities, I do hope it is Dactyl Joust, that is, if it's complete enough to be very playable. The video definatley looked impressive, but was awful short, and showed no gameplay at all. Are you postive about Dactyl Joust coming from Midway?!? As I recall, it's a High Voltage Software developed game, and all their other titles were published by Atari. Of course Midway had to play some role, since the Joust name was their's, but I think it was just licensing. I think it's still seperate from other midway titles like TC, even if Atari was going to publish TC themselves too, becuase it's not just different development teams, but totally different development houses doing the DJ and TC, and most likely MK3 too. Edited November 7, 2010 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 Somewhat disappointed that only 15 games from the jag list were actually being worked on (i.e code exists etc) still, at least that is about a quarter to a third of the jaguar library for commercially released games back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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