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#1 The_Laird OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 9:33 AM

Aero The Acrobat - Sunsoft
Akira - Handmade Software
Allegiance - Team 17
Alone In The Dark CD - Infogrames
American Football - Parker Brothers
American Hero - Atari
Arena Football - V-Real
Artemis CD - Springer Spaniel Software
Assassin - OMC Games
Assault: Covert Ops - Midnite Software
Alien Vs. Predator Annihillation CD - Rebellion
Automaniacs - Visual Dimensions 3D
Azeron - Beyond Games
Bases Loaded - Jaleco
Batman Forever CD - Time Warner
Batman: The Animated Series - Time Warner
Battlechess CD - Interplay
Battle Sonics - ?
Battle Wheels - Beyond Games
BC Racers CD - Core Design
Bios Fear - All Systems Go!
Bomberman Genetic - Fantasia
Buggy Ball - Virtuality
Bugs Bunny's Cartoon Capers - Sunsoft
Casino Royale - Telegames
Caves of Fear - Atari
Center Court Tennis - Zeppelin
Centipede 2000 - Dark Science
Cheesy - Ocean
Chuck Norris Rangers CD - ?
Circle Of Four CD - JV Enterprises
Cisco Heat - Jaleco
Clay Fighter - Acclaim
The Cleansing: Starring Bill Donahue - Band In The Box Entertainment
Commander Blood CD - Mindscape
Commando CD - Microids
Conan The Barbarian - Virtual Xperience
Country Grid CD - High Voltage Software
Crime Patrol CD - American Laser Games
Creature Shock - Argonaut
Cyber Space - ?
Dactyl Joust - Williams
Dante's Inferno CD - Gorilla Systems
Death Watch - Atari
Defcon 1 CD - Visual Dimensions
Demolition Man CD - Virgin
Deus Ex Machina CD - Silmarils
Dino Dudes 2 - Imagitec
Doom 2 - Interplay
Dracula The Undead CD - Atari
Dragon's Lair II Time Warp CD - Readysoft
Dream Web - ?
Droppings - Delta Music Systems
Dune Racer - Atari
Dungeon Depths - Midnite Software
Earthworm Jim 1 - Softgold
Earthworm Jim 2 - Softgold
European Soccer Challenge - Telegames
Evidence CD - Microids
Falcon - Spectrum Holobyte
FIFA International Soccer - Electronic Arts
Freelancer 2010 CD - ImagitecFrank Thomas Big Hurt Baseball - Acclaim
Galactic Gladiators - Photosurrealism
Gotcha - Atari
Graham Gooch Cricket - Telegames
Gravon VR - Suma
Gunship 2000 - Microprose
Gunfight Max - Band In The Box
Hardball 3 - Accolade
Heart Of Darkness CD - Virgin
Highlander II - Lore Games
Highlander III - Lore Games
Horrorscope CD - V-Real Interactive
Hosenose & Booger - All Systems Go!
Indiana Jags - Virtual Experience
Iratan Supremacy - Level 7
Ironman / XO Manowar - Acclaim
Ishar III - Similaris
Isle Of The Dead - Rainmaker
Jack Niklaus Cybergolf - Accolade
James Pond 3: Operation Starfish - Telegames
Jimmy Connors' Tennis - Ubi Soft
Kasumi Ninja II CD - Handmade
Kick Off 3 - Anco
Legions Of The Undead - Rebellion
Lester The Unlikely - DTMC
Lion Hart - ?
Litil Divil CD - Gremlin
Livewire - Black Scorpion
Lobo - Ocean
Lost Vikings - Interplay
Magic Carpet CD - Bulldog
Mad Dog McCree - American Laser Games
Mad Dog McCree 2 - American Laser Games
Major Havoc - Atari
Max Force - Atari
Mech Tiles - Beyond Games
Minature Golf - DTMC
Mindripper CD - Atari
Mortal Kombat 3 CD - Williams
Mountain Sports - DTMC
Nanoterror Delta - Music Systems
Navy Command - Microids
The Need For Speed CD - Electronic Arts
Nerves Of Steel - Rainmaker
Neurodancer CD - PIXIS International
No Second Prize - Thalion
Oracle Octave - AST Programs
Outpost CD - Atari
Phear - H2O
Pong 2000 - Atari
Powerslide - Telegames
Quake CD - ID Software
Rainbow Warrior - 3D Games
Return Of Magic - Virtual Artists
Return To Zork CD - Activision
Rise Of The Robots CD - Time Warner Interactive
Robocop - Ocean
Robotron 2084 - Williams
Rocky Horror Show CD - Transylvania Interactive
Rollcage - Team 17
Scottish Open Virtual Golf CD - Core Design
Snap Dragon - ?
Space Pirates - American Laser Games
Starnet - ?
Starlight Bowl-A-Rama CD - V-Real Interactive
Striker - Rage
Stunt Car Racer - Microprose
Star Trek: The Next Generation - Spectrum Holobyte
Sudden Impact - Creative Talents
Super Off-Road - Telegames
Swagman CD - Core Design
T-Mek - Williams
TFX - Ocean
Thea Realm Fighters - High Voltage Software
Thunderhawk CD - Core Design
Thunderstalker CD - Telegames
Tinhead - Microprose
Tiny Toons - Atari
Toki Goes Apespit - Ocean
Tomb Raider CD - Core Design
Top Fuel - Tiertex
Ultimate Brain Games - Telegames
Uncle Oswald - Atari
Varunas Forces - Atari
Virtual Warriors - Rainmaker
Virtuoso - Telegames
Warlock - Trimark Interactive
Waterworld - Ocean
Wild Cup Soccer - Telegames
Wing Commander III - Electronic Arts
Witchwood - Team 17
World Circuit - ?
X-Racers - ?
Zodiac Fighters - VReal
Zone Hunter - Virtuality
ZZyorxx II - Virtual Experience

RED - Proto has been released
BLUE - Game finished but lost or still missing
GREEN - Some code existed but has been lost

BROWN - Game close to complete but lost or missing
PINK - Proto is known to exist but has not been released

Edited by The_Laird, Sun Nov 7, 2010 10:15 AM.


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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 10:02 AM

Is Akira the anime Akira?

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 10:04 AM

Rise of the Robots was "lost"? Good riddance!

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 10:06 AM

Rise of the Robots was "lost"? Good riddance!


I own the CD-i version and its one of the worst games I have ever been subjected to :lol:

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 11:32 AM

Nice list... anyway of making it easier to read for the colorblind? (maybe list each under it's heading?)

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 11:36 AM

Nice list... anyway of making it easier to read for the colorblind? (maybe list each under it's heading?)


I tried to use colours that couldn't easily be confused and thought this was the best way to do it as I already had the list in alphabetical order from JS2.

I could do another post that lists the catagories as I can longer edit the original post (I had to several times to correct mistakes so I sure hope there isn't any more!!!)

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 11:43 AM

Well I'm not really color blind, but I'm finding that as I get halfway thruogh the list I forget what color means what.

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 4:56 PM

Well I'm not really color blind, but I'm finding that as I get halfway thruogh the list I forget what color means what.


You have to concentrate on picking out one color at a time, with it's meaning in mind and ignore all other colors.

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 5:15 PM

MB to Mr Laird

Thats even better then what i submitted

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 5:29 PM

Great list. Thanks for taking the time to post that.

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Posted Sun Nov 7, 2010 5:32 PM

No problem.

If anyone has any specific questions regarding any games just ask :cool:

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Posted Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:28 AM

Is Akira the anime Akira?


Yes. I'm going to assume the Jaguar game was related to whatever THQ was planning to release on other systems.

With "Toki Goes Apespit," did someone get the title mixed up with the Genesis version?

Edited by CRV, Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:00 AM.


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Posted Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:10 AM

Is Akira the anime Akira?


Yes. I'm going to assume the Jaguar game was related to whatever THQ was planning to release on other systems.

With "Toki Goes Apespit," did someone get the title mixed up with the Genesis version?


Nope. Its was orginally called Toki Goes Apeshit but they altered the title. I posted some scans of a preview of it in Edge magazine recently.

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Posted Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:11 PM

who has max force? is it playable?

Also, IIRC wasn't tinhead the game that was supposedly in a storage locker somewhere but was never confirmed to still exist (ie: may have been disposed of or erased?). If that is still the case, i think that "proto known to exist, not released" is an inappropriate status, but it'd be interesting to know if something changed.

Edited by Willard, Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:15 PM.


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Posted Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:22 PM

Aside from the known stuff, most of this reads like some ridiculous wishlist. There's a huge difference between 'unreleased' and 'nobody ever did a single line of code or inked a contractual deal, or even thought hard about the idea for more then ten seconds and possibly a screenshot appearing in a magazine from another platform'

I could list out thousands of games that were 'unreleased' on the Jag, starting from the 2600 and moving my way to the Xbox 360...

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 2:14 AM

who has max force? is it playable?

Also, IIRC wasn't tinhead the game that was supposedly in a storage locker somewhere but was never confirmed to still exist (ie: may have been disposed of or erased?). If that is still the case, i think that "proto known to exist, not released" is an inappropriate status, but it'd be interesting to know if something changed.


Some years ago somebody I know was privvy to Max Force but the problem was that it you couldn't play it with a Jag controller IIRC. Tinhead is supposedly still sitting in storage in a warehouse in Bristol (England). Somebody from Microprose confirmed it existed but the nearly complete Gunship 2000 also by them was lost.

Aside from the known stuff, most of this reads like some ridiculous wishlist. There's a huge difference between 'unreleased' and 'nobody ever did a single line of code or inked a contractual deal, or even thought hard about the idea for more then ten seconds and possibly a screenshot appearing in a magazine from another platform'

I could list out thousands of games that were 'unreleased' on the Jag, starting from the 2600 and moving my way to the Xbox 360...


The difference is that ALL these games were announced for the Jaguar and appeared on OFFICIAL Atari release lists.

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 4:20 AM

Tinhead is supposedly still sitting in storage in a warehouse in Bristol (England). Somebody from Microprose confirmed it existed but the nearly complete Gunship 2000 also by them was lost.


Given that MicroProse hasn't existed for nearly a decade any warehouse or storage facility would not still be holding on to anything of theirs waiting for the Jaguar revival to cash it in :roll:.

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 5:02 AM

I never said anyone was waiting to cash in I merely said that somebody (not me) spoke to one of the programmers who used to work for Microprose and he said it still existed but was in a storage warehouse with some other stuff. Dosn't mean its true of course.

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 8:00 AM

I don't really have a problem with the games listed - despite the fact that some of them seem to be complete fantasy - if Atari announced them officially. My problem is the categories and the criteria that determines which category a game should be in.

GREEN - Some code existed but has been lost - Should really be According to <source> code existed but has since been lost.

PINK - Proto is known to exist but has not been released - Is fine, as long as the prototype is actually known to exist. e.g. Thea Realm Fighters is owned by a member of the community and has been seen. The same was true for Robinson's Requiem.

BROWN - Game close to complete but lost or missing - Don't really think putting games in this category is a good idea unless there's a decent source saying that a game was approximately <value> complete before work stopped. Otherwise, it compels people to make assumptions like "It was worked on from Nov 94 so it must have been almost done".

BLUE - Game finished but lost or still missing - Same as PINK. Telegames/Songbird may have it or if the developer/publisher has confirmed it was finished - fine, if not, it doesn't belong here.


All games that have been put in these categories should have a reliable source confirming the determination or be left as simply Annouced by Atari/Unknown. Doesn't Cyberroach already have this sort of information for some games?

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Claims such as the following DO NOT count:

"A friend of a friend's brother who used to know somebody who once spoke to an individual who was married to a person who once, at some vague period in time, worked for a game development company said that prototypes existed and are stored in an underground bunker/secret warbdrobe akin to the one featured in Narnia/the warehouse from Raiders of the Last Ark.".

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 8:10 AM

Posts such as this and a few others above really make me wonder why I bothered.

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 8:15 AM

I just cleaned this thread up--Cyrano, if you don't have something positive to contribute to a thread, stay the hell out of it.

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 10:12 AM

I don't really have a problem with the games listed - despite the fact that some of them seem to be complete fantasy - if Atari announced them officially. My problem is the categories and the criteria that determines which category a game should be in.


Yes, I think you hit the nail right on the head. The categories really need to be redefined, and unless there is actual known evidence or directly quoted sources (which would need to be part of the list), 'Annouced by Atari/Unknown' should really be the category of most of the list. Maintaining some vague rumor/wish list, most of which is probably the communities own talk bouncing back in on itself over the years doesn't really provide any value.

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 10:23 AM

Some people are taking this far too seriously!

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 10:27 AM

Some people are taking this far too seriously!

It's not a matter of serious, I mean it's videogames and all... :) It's more a matter of being factually correct.

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Posted Tue Nov 9, 2010 5:38 PM

Note the curse of the soccer games ...




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