BDW Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-rQ6Jay6w&feature=related Is there a possibility of the rom being dumped ?? Don't count on it. Our "top men" have had Turbo for years, but we still have yet to see a dump. Support AtariAge. Buy the repro. Support the people who don't want to pay $45 for a barely touched up prototype that even the rave reviewers say is dissapointingly unimproved. Dump the ROM. That is the first post that has made me laugh out loud in a long time. You are obviously full of ______. Edited November 25, 2010 by brandondwright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Ks Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-rQ6Jay6w&feature=related Is there a possibility of the rom being dumped ?? Don't count on it. Our "top men" have had Turbo for years, but we still have yet to see a dump. Support AtariAge. Buy the repro. Support the people who don't want to pay $45 for a barely touched up prototype that even the rave reviewers say is dissapointingly unimproved. Dump the ROM. That is the first post that has made me laugh out loud in a long time. You are obviously full of ______. *shakes head* If that's the best you can do, I have nothing more to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDW Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-rQ6Jay6w&feature=related Is there a possibility of the rom being dumped ?? Don't count on it. Our "top men" have had Turbo for years, but we still have yet to see a dump. Support AtariAge. Buy the repro. Support the people who don't want to pay $45 for a barely touched up prototype that even the rave reviewers say is dissapointingly unimproved. Dump the ROM. That is the first post that has made me laugh out loud in a long time. You are obviously full of ______. *shakes head* If that's the best you can do, I have nothing more to say. You have nothing more to say because you realized that you STILL wouldn't get your ROM after your threw your miniature shit-fit. Edited November 25, 2010 by brandondwright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 4Ks, Al himself said that the rom would be released to the public in time, so there! http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/96298-turbo-atari-2600/page__view__findpost__p__2064522 I'm thinking I'll release the original prototype ROM shortly, and then the full version (with the menu and "Enhanced" version of the game) after I've sold 'x' number of copies of the physical game. Perhaps when 200 copies of been sold. This was an expensive game to produce and I'd like to recoup my costs. ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Holy shit I didn't know there was a planned game that involved THE RESIDENTS!!! Really interesting stuff, thanks man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hi Matt, Nice reviews!! Mark of the Mole is certainly interesting as it is such a unique game. I am also impressed by the graphics in Charlie Brown. The trees look great. I just wish it was further developed. Thank you for taking the time to review these. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattkain Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Well, not to point out the obvious but the "upDATE" to the Charlie Brown page is more of an upGRADE. Suddenly, the screenshots used are of emulation quality. So this would tell me that the game is at the very least now, safe, even if it remains unavailable to everyone. I guess that's good news. The game has found a safe and happy home with a generous buyer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) A generous buyer, you say? ... Matt, did you really sell it for a lousy $45 back then? Edited November 30, 2010 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Ks Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 A generous buyer, you say? ... Matt, did you really sell it for a lousy $45 back then? Well, considering he wouldn't release the proto because he was afraid it would de-value it, it would be pretty hilarious if he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattkain Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 A generous buyer, you say? ... Matt, did you really sell it for a lousy $45 back then? Well, considering he wouldn't release the proto because he was afraid it would de-value it, it would be pretty hilarious if he did. Is that true? Gosh, I don't remember saying that, but thanks for putting words into my mouth. I appreciate it. Anyway, someone sounds jealous. You should have bid $50 when you had the chance. All kidding aside, the game has been out of my possession for years. We did at some point try to coordinate to dump GLCB, but I was never able to make a trip fit into my schedule where I could travel and meet up with someone with a dumper. I also think someone was going to send me a dumper at some point, but that never happened... Please remember, I was once very involved in the Atari scene, but for years it has been only a tiny, tiny part of my life (I stopped collecting over a decade ago). I do check out the boards every couple months (and I attend CA Extreme every year), but that's about it. While I understand that dumping a rare prototype is hugely important to people on this board, it simply wasn't high on my agenda nor was it easy to fit into my schedule (you know, I was prioritizing things like work, relationships, family, other hobbies, etc. - I'm sure that's not too hard to understand). Anyway, I got a little tired of being hit with messages about dumping, selling, or donating the game so a few years ago I ended up selling it silently. The buyer also requested silence, but it's been a few years so I hope it's ok that I'm revealing the story. Anyone who PMed me and asked politely was told exactly what was going on (game had been sold and had found a very safe home). I think the moral here is that if someone who is not an active member of the community pops up with a rare prototype or one-of-a-kind item, the best thing to do is to be patient and friendly and NOT overwhelm him or her with threats, complaints, constant badgering, and endless spiteful, jealous posts riddled with insinuations, assumptions, and insults. In my experience this only makes the person less inclined to want to have anything to do with the whole Atari community (I'm sure we can think of several cases where this has happened). That being said, hats off to all the super cool people in the Atari scene, and everyone can be assured that GLCB has a very happy home (and has for several years) with a very friendly, gracious and dedicated collector. Sorry for hijacking the thread. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 Sorry for hijacking the thread. Permission granted. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Ks Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 A generous buyer, you say? ... Matt, did you really sell it for a lousy $45 back then? Well, considering he wouldn't release the proto because he was afraid it would de-value it, it would be pretty hilarious if he did. Is that true? Gosh, I don't remember saying that, but thanks for putting words into my mouth. I appreciate it. Anyway, someone sounds jealous. You should have bid $50 when you had the chance. Yes, looking back at that thread you're right. Sorry. But no, I'm not jealous, and I wouldn't have bought it anyway. Case closed. Goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 A generous buyer, you say? ... Matt, did you really sell it for a lousy $45 back then? Well, considering he wouldn't release the proto because he was afraid it would de-value it, it would be pretty hilarious if he did. Is that true? Gosh, I don't remember saying that, but thanks for putting words into my mouth. I appreciate it. Anyway, someone sounds jealous. You should have bid $50 when you had the chance. All kidding aside, the game has been out of my possession for years. We did at some point try to coordinate to dump GLCB, but I was never able to make a trip fit into my schedule where I could travel and meet up with someone with a dumper. I also think someone was going to send me a dumper at some point, but that never happened... Please remember, I was once very involved in the Atari scene, but for years it has been only a tiny, tiny part of my life (I stopped collecting over a decade ago). I do check out the boards every couple months (and I attend CA Extreme every year), but that's about it. While I understand that dumping a rare prototype is hugely important to people on this board, it simply wasn't high on my agenda nor was it easy to fit into my schedule (you know, I was prioritizing things like work, relationships, family, other hobbies, etc. - I'm sure that's not too hard to understand). Anyway, I got a little tired of being hit with messages about dumping, selling, or donating the game so a few years ago I ended up selling it silently. The buyer also requested silence, but it's been a few years so I hope it's ok that I'm revealing the story. Anyone who PMed me and asked politely was told exactly what was going on (game had been sold and had found a very safe home). I think the moral here is that if someone who is not an active member of the community pops up with a rare prototype or one-of-a-kind item, the best thing to do is to be patient and friendly and NOT overwhelm him or her with threats, complaints, constant badgering, and endless spiteful, jealous posts riddled with insinuations, assumptions, and insults. In my experience this only makes the person less inclined to want to have anything to do with the whole Atari community (I'm sure we can think of several cases where this has happened). That being said, hats off to all the super cool people in the Atari scene, and everyone can be assured that GLCB has a very happy home (and has for several years) with a very friendly, gracious and dedicated collector. Sorry for hijacking the thread. Crystal clear, Matt. Thanks for explaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the background info. I think what people here are most concerned about -- and curious to know, myself included -- is if the GLCB game was dumped, NOT so that it could be released (which I understand a collector of a one of a kind item may not want to do, espeicly if he paid big money for it) but so that the contents are perserved for future use. Being a one of a kind item, the EPROM is sure to fail at some point, and it would be a shame if this program was lost for all time. There's no telling how many programs and games this sad fate has happened. As a trained historian, I know the importance of perserving things, even copies, so that future people can see them or at the least know they exist. If anyone is in touch with the lucky guy who currently has the GLCB protoype, I respctfully suggest that you urge said person to dump the ROM at least to pervent this fate from happening. Edited December 2, 2010 by SoulBlazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Tempest reviewed both of these games and has emulator-captured screenshots in these reviews, so it's obvious that he has the ROM images to both titles. So why do people keep asking if one or both of these have been dumped? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Tempest reviewed both of these games and has emulator-captured screenshots in these reviews, so it's obvious that he has the ROM images to both titles. So why do people keep asking if one or both of these have been dumped? In the update he did NOW it was clear that they were emulator screenshots. And my argument wasn't just for these games, but anything else rare like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Everything I have on my site has been dumped. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Perhaps this is a a bit O/T, but I don't understand the obsession some people have with wanting copies of prototypes and unreleased games (by which I mean the ROMS, not the actual physical items). I very much enjoy reading Tempest's reviews -- especially in those cases where there are multiple versions of a game and it is possible to see how the game evolved over time. (Cabbage Patch Kids is a really great example of this idea because there exist so many WIP versions from different stages.) That said, from what I've read the vast majority of these games are not especially fun to play -- they are either unfinished or they went unreleased for a good reason. There are some exceptions, of course, I happen to rather like Aquaventure and that never made it to release, but I have no burning desire to play some unfinished WIP. For me, if the game is not fun, I have no interest in acquiring (or playing) it -- in any format. If I did, however, somehow find a prototype or lab loaner at my local thrift shop for under $5, I would very probably buy it. But unless it was fun to play, it would very quickly be put up for sale. [Edited to fix spelling mistakes.] Edited December 3, 2010 by jhd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I tend to agree with you for the most part, jhd. I think the people who seem to badly want the ROMs to prototypes that are really of minimal interest are ultimately the same as the people who have a burning desire to own some really rare game who quickly lose interest in said game shortly after acquiring it. As soon as they get it, they move on to some other obscure object of desire. In the end I think it's just all about having something that you don't/can't have, and little else really. It's all about the chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Perhaps this is a a bit O/T, but I don't understand the obsession some people have with wanting copies of prototypes and unreleased games (by which I mean the ROMS, not the actual physical items). In my case, it's very simple: I want these ROM copies for the archive. Also, I'm truly interested in examining and playing a prototype game, no matter how buggy it is. IMO it's a piece of video game history that never saw the light of day and now, many years later, comes to life in front of your own eyes. It's special feeling to witness this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 I'll vouch for the fact that most of these unfinished prototypes aren't fun to play. Even I generally don't look at them much after I review them. For example, Mark of the Mole is a very interesting game but it's not very playable because there's no ending or enemies in it. I can guarantee once that rom gets released everyone will look at it once and then never touch it again. It needs to be archived, the gameplay should be documented, but that's about all it's good for in its current form. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN FEVER Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 man thats one weird band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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