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#1 ClausB OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:12 PM

Let's post all our Atari 400s' serial numbers here and keep a running list. Earliest wins! You get, well, you get to be at the top of the list. Don't forget the 3-digit date code! It's ink-stamped on the label or gold-stamped on the case bottom.
 

Atari 400 serial numbers & owners & dates WW/YY:

 

NTSC:

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9 45 1941 MacRorie 45/79?

9 45 3375 ClausB 45/79?

9 48 5663 (WW061/18) adam242 48/79?

AV 173873 10/1 (AV 492934 402) jacobus 10/81

AV 030962 331 5863 orpheuswaking 33/81

381 6793 owinnimo 38/81

391 8230 owinnimo 39/81

421 1193 (AV040418) csimar 42/81

431 6737 421 Bryan 42/81 or 43/81

481 1259 jacobus 48/81

481 1512 (144 AV032245) MrFish 48/81

AV 024184 022 Sean39 02/82

AV 243692 042 bar897 04/82

013962 082 (152 AV070285) Nature Boy 08/82

019334 112 jacobus 11/82

AV 206177 122 mutterminder 12/82

AV 210552 142 (AV083743) Mirage 14/82

AV 259012 232 Agent570 23/82

AV 222530 262 pkriek 26/82

AV 302855 282 hunmanik 28/82

AV 361209 292 (AV 194896 7-12) Chilly Willy 29/82

AV 321493 302 tep392 30/82

AV 201188 342 (AV 152166 8/18) chevymad 34/82

AV 163775 91120 392 (AV 511363) edward1024 39/82

489543 412 (AV168668 10/8) jacobus 41/82

AV 461?73 422 Stephen 42/82

AV 444156 432 (AV 171660 10128482?) wemichener 43/82

AV 326847 442 Brentarian 44/82

AV 313409 462 racerx 46/82

AV 485595 472 orpheuswaking 47/82

AV 468285 492 kool kitty89 49/82

AV 455505 492 ClausB 49/82

AV 389467 512 griz 51/82

AV 519454 512 Bryan 51/82

AV 359757 522 owinnimo 52/82

AV 490453 532 rdea6 53/82

516743 013 Bikerbob 01/83?

AV 434887 023 orpheuswaking 02/83

AV 459975 023 Spurge 02/83

AV 428709 033 low.blow 03/83

AV 01799 043 83A jacobus 04/83

AV 464601 053 ClausB 05/83

AV 02966 063 83A jacobus 06/83

AV 234953 073 rdea6 07/83

235361 073 48kRAM 07/83

AV 356901 073 Kyle22 07/83

AV 280101 083 adamchevy 08/83

AV 416673 103 electronizer 10/83

AV 395629 113 adam242 11/83

AV 399609 113 Bryan 11/83

AV 425492 113 ClausB 11/83

AV 424193 113 gamer-stu 11/83

AV 396339 123 ClausB 12/83

AV 418392 123 orpheuswaking 12/83

AV 372931 133 Brentarian 13/83

AV 417493 133 driph 13/83

AV 399234 143 orpheuswaking 14/83

367313 153 (AV397463) BillC 15/83

AV 368167 153 troff 15/83

AV 18721 83A 163 jjost 16/83

AV 245356 163 nama 16/83

AV 278113 163 OracleJedi 16/83

AV 429553 173 Dragon375 17/83

AV 430383 173 doctorclu 17/83

AV 430832 173 slx 17/83

AV 429921 183 iratasan 18/83

AV 23807 193 DrVenkman 19/83

AV 27055 193 HatNJ 19/83

AV 419640 203 Muzz73 20/83

AV 420359 203 owinnimo 20/83

AV 523584 doctorclu ??/??

AV 302124 Bryan ??/??

AV 316722 (AV 160238 9122) Ditto ??/??

AV 330172 potatohead ??/??

AV 421708 swlovinist ??/??

AV 479540 jsmith73 ??/??

several owinnimo ??/??

019935 jjost ??/??

025372 thegamezmaster ??/??

AV 336216 (AV 134788 8/27) DrVenkman ??/??

440767 Tempest ??/??

 

PAL:

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051 004998 (351) Rybags

172 BY 102534 (050 005417) 431  mimo

051 006809 032 skr

BY 116316 032 mimo

BZ 105407 Sleepy

BZ 110353 (082) sup8pdct

BY 118067 362 (BY 111548 830) Fox-1 / mnx

BY 00329 053 ProWizard

051 006880 261 OBO

BY 105245 151 (050 008743) OBO

051 002119 102 FredM

83A BY 01728 153 FredM

BY 101369 292 JoSch

BY 103039 212 (G 154 BY109050-16 5/17 L20 H) Dub

BZ 106653 023 flowerking

BY 110920 davemac ??/??


Edited by ClausB, Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:55 PM.


#2 erazmus OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:18 PM

Let's post all our Atari 400s' serial numbers here and keep a running list. Earliest wins! You get, well, you get to be at the top of the list.

Once we get a few posts we'll figure out the date coding. Looking at a sample of one, mine, it might be YWW NNNN.

Atari 400 serial numbers & owners:
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945 3375 ClausB

It might be useful to gather CTIA vs GTIA as well? Then perhaps you could determine at approximately what serial number they changed.

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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:01 PM

My 400 is boxed, but I can get to it relatively easily. I'll test it for GTIA and post the serial this weekend.

Unfortunately, it's not my original 400 from 1982. Got this one off of ebay, and promptly added 48kB to it.

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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:48 PM

Let's post all our Atari 400s' serial numbers here and keep a running list. Earliest wins! You get, well, you get to be at the top of the list.

Once we get a few posts we'll figure out the date coding. Looking at a sample of one, mine, it might be YWW NNNN.

Atari 400 serial numbers & owners:
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945 3375 ClausB



OK, I'm not really sure of the significant digits in the serial numbers, so I included them all...


The first two have similar looking serials numbers, and no embossed stampings.
83A AV 02966 063
83A AV 01799 043

The next one has an additional red sticker that identifies it as a 16K machine, and has a silver embossed "ATARI / 481" on the edge
G 16K 481 1259 (481 *)

The last has a printed serial number (AV 492934) and a second hand-written one (AV 173873 10/1). This 400 is also embossed, but with a "ATARI / 402" and no silver.

If you want photos, please let me know...

edit: All are GTIA, but I believe that the third one was originally a CTIA machine...

Edited by jacobus, Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:49 PM.


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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:26 PM

Don't tell anyone, but every time I've found a CTIA, it's been in a machine that had the ram size printed on the case label.

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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:36 PM

Don't tell anyone, but every time I've found a CTIA, it's been in a machine that had the ram size printed on the case label.

Makes sense - by the time GTIAs were in place, all machines would have been 16K. I have never seen a machine with a CTIA or less than 16k :(

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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:19 PM

Hey! How do I keep the first post open for editing?

Not sure about my date code YWW. There's a ROM inside with a later date by 3 weeks.

Looks like the other date codes are WWY.

The list so far:

Atari 400 serial numbers & owners:
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945 3375 ClausB
G 16K 481 1259 jacobus
AV 492934 402 jacobus
83A AV 01799 043 jacobus
83A AV 02966 063 jacobus
AV 368167 153 BillC

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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:23 PM

Hey! How do I keep the first post open for editing?


I think you need to be a subscriber but ask Albert.

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:01 AM

A couple of UK PAL 400's for assistance/confusion:

First one:
BY116316

400-1.JPG
Second one:
G05005417
Below the main sticker is a narrow sticker with the following
G172 BY102534-16 10/20 L40
This one also has a Red 16K sticker and G 16K printed on the main sticker
400-2.JPG
Hope we can work out the dates some how

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:07 AM

Don't tell anyone, but every time I've found a CTIA, it's been in a machine that had the ram size printed on the case label.

Makes sense - by the time GTIAs were in place, all machines would have been 16K. I have never seen a machine with a CTIA or less than 16k :(


That may be so in the US, but as far as I am aware the UK only ever got 16K GTIA models, you could buy 48K ones later in the 400's life though

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:28 AM

PAL machine here, most likely made early/mid 1981.

Serial: 051 004998

Not sure if all machines have this, but stamped/indented into the bottom of the case, middle/back "ATARI / 351" with 2/3rds worn off silver lettering.

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:46 AM

boxed 400 with serial numbers matching: AV 210552 (NTSC)

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:48 AM

A couple of PAL UK 400's for assitance/confusion:

First one:
BY116316

Second one:
G05005417
Below the main sticker is a narrow sticker with the following
G172 BY102534-16 10/20 L40
This one also has a Red 16K sticker and G 16K printed on the main sticker

Hope we can work out the dates some how

The second one has 050 in larger type, so it might be YWW, 50th week of '80. But it also has a BY number. I'll guess it's YWWNNN, making it the 2nd week of '81. Perhaps it was renumbered when imported?

The first one has only the BY number, so it might be the 16th week of '81.

It will take more posts to figure this out.

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:54 AM

PAL machine here, most likely made early/mid 1981.

Serial: 051 004998

Not sure if all machines have this, but stamped/indented into the bottom of the case, middle/back "ATARI / 351" with 2/3rds worn off silver lettering.

Hmm, the number could be either the 51st week of '80 or the 5th week of '81. The stamp probably says 35th week of '81. Looked like imported machines get restamped?

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:55 AM

boxed 400 with serial numbers matching: AV 210552 (NTSC)

Is there a separate 3-digit number?

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:42 AM

Just to be clear, I added pictures of mine. I'm beginning to wonder if there really is a date code in the serial number ... the earlier 400s and 800s had the embossed date - doesn't make sense that Atari would have a redundant system for recording DOM.

First.jpg Second.jpg third.jpg Fourth.jpg

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:57 AM

I'd guess that serial stickers are only put on completed machines.

Every chance that they might have had thousands of cases lying around waiting to be populated, so you could get some discrepancy between dates on cases/stickers.

Of course that's assuming the date is somehow in the serial, but it all sounds plausible.

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:24 PM

There sure are a lot of variations. We need more samples to figure this out.

Please, if you have a 400, post its serial number here!

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:57 PM

I'll just pop in, I did have a 400 at one time but it's no longer working but anyway what up with that 64K memory upgrade that was sold back in the day for the 400's? What could be done with 400 that has 64k, if anything? :?

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:56 PM

Looks like I have a very recent one compared to the others here.

AV 459975 023

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:49 PM

AV 479540

Here's another SERNO for the list.

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Posted Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:57 PM

Just pulled mine.

I think it's 32K. Not where I can power it up at the moment.

Serial number is: AV 330172

"MFG. BY ATARI, INC. SUNNYVALE, CA."

It only has the larger, white radius rectangle sticker.

Edited by potatohead, Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:59 PM.


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Posted Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:16 AM

Another Pal from australia
BZ 110353

There is a Date right at the back pressed in to the plastic ATARI / 082

There is also a long sticker but i cannot make out all the charactors.

Gtia, rev A os

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Posted Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:05 AM

The list so far, with best guess dates for NTSC:

Atari 400 serial numbers & owners & dates WW/YY:

NTSC:
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945 3375 ClausB 45/79
AV 173873 10/1 (AV 492934 402) jacobus 10/81
G 16K 481 1259 jacobus 48/81
AV 459975 023 Spurge 02/83
83A AV 01799 043 jacobus 04/83
83A AV 02966 063 jacobus 06/83
AV 368167 153 BillC 15/83
AV 210552 Mirage ??/??
AV 330172 potatohead ??/??
AV 479540 jsmith73 ??/??

PAL:
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G 172 BY 102534 (050 005417) mimo
BY 116316 mimo
051 004998 (351) Rybags
BZ 110353 (082) sup8pdct

Haven't figured out all the dates yet. Take a second look for other 3 digit codes, printed or stamped.

Any SECAM units out there?

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Posted Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:12 AM

I don't think Atari made SECAM units until the XL series.




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