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#1 Ryoko Demon OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:20 AM

Hi,

Is there a program on the 8 bits that can copy binary programs from disk to tape? I don't mean basic programs but exe or com files. Tried with various dos versions like sparta, 2.5, mydos and so on that did'nt work of course. I've got a friend who picked up a 600XL with a 64k internal upgrade and it came with a 1010 but doesn't have a floppy drive or anything else yet and I want to give him a few programs on tape to use until he does get a drive.

#2 Rybags OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:44 AM

It's not quite that simple.

Binary load files are only native to DOS, the OS doesn't support them.

So, you need a 2-stage loader. I used to have one decades ago that did a Binary Load from tape but I stopped using tapes around 1984.

A better solution would be to just get a whole bunch of CAS images then use CAS2WAV to create a bunch of WAV files. Then you can record direct to cassette, or put on a CD and copy the CD to tape the old fashioned way.

#3 w1k OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:34 AM

yes, that program exists..

wait for load screen and then i main menu type:

NAHRAVANI - 2)DISK

then 2) VYSTUP TURBO (turbo 2000) or 3) standard

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#4 olavese@online.no OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:25 AM

Hi,

Is there a program on the 8 bits that can copy binary programs from disk to tape? I don't mean basic programs but exe or com files. Tried with various dos versions like sparta, 2.5, mydos and so on that did'nt work of course. I've got a friend who picked up a 600XL with a 64k internal upgrade and it came with a 1010 but doesn't have a floppy drive or anything else yet and I want to give him a few programs on tape to use until he does get a drive.


I have a few copiers on my page : http://pokeysoft.no/...tari/a8util.htm

search for tape and see what you can find. Some are very good, but mostly for single stage loads

#5 AtariGeezer OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:33 PM

Yes, for single stage exe's it's pretty easy to do...
Back in 83-84, I made a program that could convert cassettes, carts and disk to one another. It's probably on one of those PD ATR's.

Edited by AtariGeezer, Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:34 PM.


#6 charliecron OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:46 PM

Have a look at xex2cas. Use it to convert your binary to .cas file.

Then have a look at cas2wav, which you can use to convert you .cas file to a .wav file.

Record your .wav file on to tape!

Load tape on Atari :)

#7 CharlieChaplin OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:13 PM

Well,

1) there are lots of C/D Copiers which will copy files between tape and disk (any direction), e.g. CD-Copy 54k, Speed-Copy 56k, Coolcopy 130XE, Filemover (37k), Powercopy (48k), etc. - some of them can be found on CDCOPY.ATR and CAS2DSK.ATR... [these copy-programs should be loaded from DOS]

but they will only copy ML-files *.XEX/*.COM and err, to load these files from disk one would use a DOS or gamedos...

2) however to load such ML-files from tape one requires a bootloader like e.g. COS (CK-COS, Happy-COS, etc.), BLC, tape-bootloader, etc. - some of them can be found on Turtap1.ATR and Howfen.ATR... [these bootloaders *.CAS should be copied to and then booted from tape]

3) to copy some bootdisks into tape-files or boot-tapes one could try special programs like e.g. BURP, Super-Copy, Howfen-DOS and others - some of them can be found on Howfen.ATR and CAS2DSK.ATR (and if you copy+convert the programs into a boot-tape no bootloader will be needed then, just boot the tape with holding down the START or Start+Option key; but if you copy+convert the programs into tape-files a bootloader like the ones mentioned in point 2) will be needed)...

Not every disk-program (no matter if disk-file or boot-disk) can be copied easily into tape format however and you need a lot of patience to transfer programs from disk to tape (you should also verify the copy on tape later on to make sure you created a good/working copy)...

-Andreas Koch.

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#8 russg OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:18 PM

I'm replying to this thread just to get it back on top of the post list. There's a new same question that asks this. Because I don't know how to point to a previous thread.

Edited by russg, Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:19 PM.


#9 rdea6 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:35 PM

I'm replying to this thread just to get it back on top of the post list. There's a new same question that asks this. Because I don't know how to point to a previous thread.

Just right click post # and when the Dialoge box appearsPost Number.PNG left click on the highlighted text and select COPY. Close the dialogue box and return to the Topic you want to post and paste the copied text into your POST...

#10 CharlieChaplin OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:14 PM

And err,

here are some more or other tools to copy COM/XEX/EXE files from disk to tape. Some of the tools will convert the COM/XEX/EXE files into boot-tapes that can be booted with Start + Option. Some tools will not convert the diskfiles, which means on tape one requires a bootloader, like BL/C or COS or something similar to load them...

-Andreas Koch.

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