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#26 roadrunner OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:14 PM

Berzerk - Ulf 120 (one of the worst games i've ever played!)

Berzerk - Kemal 4,350

Berzerk - 6,470

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Posted Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:44 PM

Wow. The K-Byte K-razy Shootout is rarity 8 on Atarimania (rarity ratings seem a bit off. Some games with the same rarity rating barely appear on ebay and are far pricier when they do), but I saw more of those on ebay than the CBS variation. It's not too expensive either. I saw a video review of it on Youtube and it looks like a neat Berzerk clone. I was hesitant since a game with a similar title is 400/800 only, but that doesn't seem to be the case with Shootout.

If there are any others out there post and we'll have a bash at them too. The A8 Berzerk (atari) is listed as a prototype so I guess that explains its flaws especially on the movement, still very playable though - remember not to press fire to start your go or you have to cycle through the levels to get back to level 1!


therealbountybob, I'm not sure what problems you are having with the Berzerk proto, but I doubt it has to do with it being a proto, since it seems to be mostly, if not 100% complete. I didn't find it to be flawed, just very challenging. From what I tired of the 5200, the difficulty seems to be a be about the same (high scores on the 5200 board are similar too). The controls are fine for me, though I have been using a Genesis controller. Edit: played using the 2600 stick and diagonals were fine. I got around 7000 or 8000 (forgot the last score) after the last one I posted and I'll post it as soon as I get on the comp (typing from iPad), unless I get a higher score.

As for other Berzerk like games, I know Shamus takes some elements from Berzerk, but isn't really a clone. Again, not a Berzerk clone, but there's that sweet Robotron port that uses two joysticks.

I'm a bit confused by the different Berzerk versions out. Apparantly, earlier versions had trouble with the XL, but the even the rom at Atarimania worked fine in XL mode in emulator. I didn't notice any difference with voice in NTSC between the ROM versions either. The cart version I got from B&C works fine on 800XL.

Edited by BrianC, Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:53 PM.


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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:11 AM

:D Maybe I imagined the voice being different... I've not found my other copy yet, the 800 version didn't seem so menacing either now I've played it (I did play this one in the arcades) plus Evil Otto just looks too cute! The movement works fine but you move as fast as Otto horizontally but not vertically and here's the cheat you can wiggle the joystick in the two diagonals to move even faster. ;)

Yes Shamus is an excellent game but is enough for a HSC game on it's own as are Robotron and Arena etc, we played Robotron last season, cool playing it with two sticks in 1 player - need to glue them to the desk though!

Nearly enough posts for a table... (now it sounds like I'm into carpentry :D )

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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:51 AM

<EDIT>
I'm withdrawing this score. There seems to be a bug when played with QMEG-OS+ 4.04 because I achieved a score of 40K in less than three minutes but the best that I've been able to do is 3,050 with the stock 800XL OS.

Not sure how I got 12,000 points in Berkerk (Kemal) but I did.

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Edited by a8isa1, Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:58 AM.


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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:00 AM

Managed to up my game some and get in some bonus gameage.
Berserk: 4340
Krazy Shootout: 5580, Goon Class 3

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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:57 AM

Holy Moly... That's a great score on Berzerk KE...

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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:26 PM

OK here's my real score (see post #29). This one was a lot harder to get.

Berzerk (Kemal's version)
8,800

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I don't want to talk about Ulf's version of Berzek. :x

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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:39 PM

Ok here is my final score for Berzerk (Kemal's version) but I contend that the game is buggy.

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My score was at 9700. I completed a level and exited the maze. My score was then 1,000. I continued playing and the score that you see is how I finished this game. I don't know if it should be counted as 9,800 or 19,800.

I've played several games since and every time I go over 9,900 the score starts counting again from zero.

The story doesn't end there though.

Earlier I was playing with QMEG-OS+ 4.04 (this is the OS I use most often). The game was presenting even wilder scores. For example, I'd get a negative score, complete a level and the score would suddenly be above 10K. It's worth noting that in this circumstance the score did not rollover after 9,900. I kept a picture from this session (see below).

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I suggest we completely reject this game (unless therealbountybob wants to award me a bonus point just for playing enough games to find these issues)

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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:25 PM

Great work a8isa1 :D It's only 1pt for playing and 2 for winning, so we'll say anyone who escapes (Berzerk KE) wins or gets 10K per completed level plus their score? Will confirm when I have a proper bash at it... for now your in the top spot on 2pts!

Failed on Berzerk in tonights session, but got promoted to Goon Class 1 (and maybe higher) on Krazy Shoot-Out: 9,830 (Lv4) the game is pretty good apart from the random placement of baddies/deaths feature :)
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Lost Tomb is possibly my favourite game of this ilk (we played it in the 'Time for Desert' round last season, speaking of which get your thinking caps on folks as we're having a theme round next (groans)... I'll start a thread for this soon :!:

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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:35 PM

Krazy Shootout 6,120
Class 1 Rank Goon

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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:04 PM

Lost Tomb is possibly my favourite game of this ilk (we played it in the 'Time for Desert' round last season, speaking of which get your thinking caps on folks as we're having a theme round next (groans)... I'll start a thread for this soon Posted Image


Must have racked my brain playing Kemal's version of Berzerk and then bludgeoned what's left attempting to play Ulf's. I don't see the connection between Lost Tomb and Berzerk.

My small idea for a theme is downward scrollers. Xevious comes to mind (even if it is a 5200 conversion).

Edited by a8isa1, Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:58 AM.


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Posted Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:55 PM

Berzerk - 7,680

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:32 AM

First Tables:
Berzerk (atari)
1st orpheuswaking 20460 13pts
2nd Deteacher 17670 12pts

3rd a8isa1 9810 10pts

4th Mr.Amiga500 9040 9pts
5th therealbountybob 8630 8pts
6th BrianC 7680 7pts
7th Philsan 7080 6pts
8th roadrunner 6740 5pts
9th zylon 4340 4pts
10th NML32 3790 3pts


K-razy ShootOut
1st therealbountybob 9830 4pts
2nd roadrunner 6120 3pts

3rd zylon 5580 3pts

Berzerk (K.E.)
1st a8isa1 19800 2pts
2nd roadrunner 4350 1pts

3rd orpheuswaking 4150 1pts
4th therealbountybob 4120 1pts
any corrections please post :)

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:28 AM

4th?? I'm a lousy stinking 4th?? That's not right. I'm too good for that. It's not my destiny to be 4th! (...3rd maybe)

any corrections please post :)


Don't put that damn smiley in there! It reminds me too much of Otto. (painful memories indeed)

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:18 AM

11200

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:18 PM

7140

#42 a8isa1 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:47 PM

any corrections please post :)


Very nice. Unfortunately, I haven't played K-razy Shootout yet.

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:55 PM

Bezerk 9330

KRazy Shootout 9070

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:12 PM

Looks like I need some practice at Berserk... 5350

I'm enjoying K-Razy Shootout much more!..12,070

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:58 PM

I've added Maniac to the contest (I knew there was another one)... the Berzerk KE takes off 1000pts when you chicken out of a room, I didn't manage to roll the score board so you'll have to remember how far you got.
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The Berzerk UP isn't great but I like the animated baddies... if you want to show the score at the end of your go. Reset - load "d:berzerk2" and change a line before 1120 to print the variable SCORE to the screen. Then save it. Run "d:Berzerk.ldr" to load the game. There is some other stuff hidden away on this disk/ATR if anyone is a sucker for punishment. The author's phone number is at the top of the code so perhaps give him a call ;)
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Quite liking K-razy Shootout, got to level 5, 19,700 Novice class 4, I'm no longer a goon; though off to correct the tables so maybe that's a premature promotion :x
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p.s. Mr Amiga you'll be 5th not 4th when I get on the 800 again :P

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:09 PM

I've dropped Berzerk 'UP' and added in Maniac! - see post 1
New Tables:
Berzerk (atari)
1st orpheuswaking 20460 13pts*
2nd Deteacher 17670 12pts*

3rd Mr.Amiga500 11200 10pts
4th a8isa1 9810 9pts
5th Goochman 9330 8pts
6th therealbountybob 8630 7pts
7th BrianC 7680 6pts
8th Philsan 7080 5pts
9th roadrunner 6740 4pts
10th beamer320i 5350 3pts
11th zylon 4340 2pts
12th NML32 3790 2pts

*1pt bonus for beating HSC record


K-razy ShootOut (Goon Squad!)
1st therealbountybob 19700 4pts
2nd beamer320i 12070 3pts

3rd Goochman 9070 3pts
4th roadrunner 6120 3pts
5th zylon 5580 2pts


Berzerk (KE)
1st a8isa1 19800 2pts
2nd therealbountybob 5310 1pt

3rd roadrunner 4350 1pt
4th orpheuswaking 4150 1pt

any corrections please post [no smiley]

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:03 PM


any corrections please post :)


Don't put that damn smiley in there! It reminds me too much of Otto. (painful memories indeed)

Your old pal just wanted to say Hi:

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:04 PM

I've dropped Berzerk 'UP' and added in Maniac! - see post 1
New Tables:
Berzerk (atari)
1st orpheuswaking 20460 13pts*
2nd Deteacher 17670 12pts*

3rd Mr.Amiga500 11200 10pts

4th a8isa1 9810 9pts
5th Goochman 9330 8pts
6th therealbountybob 8630 7pts
7th BrianC 7680 6pts
8th Philsan 7080 5pts
9th roadrunner 6740 4pts
10th beamer320i 5350 3pts
11th zylon 4340 2pts
12th NML32 3790 2pts

*1pt bonus for beating hsc record

K-razy ShootOut (Goon Squad!)
1st therealbountybob 19700 4pts
2nd beamer320i 12070 3pts

3rd Goochman 9070 3pts

4th roadrunner 6120 3pts
5th zylon 5580 2pts


Berzerk (KE)
1st a8isa1 19800 2pts
2nd therealbountybob 5310 1pt

3rd roadrunner 4350 1pt

4th orpheuswaking 4150 1pt

any corrections please post [no smiley]


LOL

My score for Krazy Shootout wasn't much off the mistaken 8,800. I scored 8,420.

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:09 PM

LOL

My score for Krazy Shootout wasn't much off the mistaken 8,800. I scored 8,420.

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I'm not updating that bloody table again, you stick to the scores I make up in future :rolling: Checkout post 1 for another bonus game Maniac! It's tough but fair!


Tip: PRESS CTRL-1 to pause K-Razy Shootout to get the score photo folks

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Posted Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:24 PM

I have both of these (Berzerk and K-Razy Shootout). :cool: Hopefully I'll have some time soon to join in.

I second Shamus as a great Berzerk-like game to possibly play in the future. I love that one. And the Shadow is a lot less threatening than Evil Otto.




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