MEtalGuy66 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Ok.. Another problem.. Anyone try to plug an XEGS cart into this thing yet? None of mine will fit without removing the plastic cart shell.. The "mounting ears" on the cart connector are too wide, and do not fit inside the cart shell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Important, although, in principle, obvious message: on the XL computers, OPTION key should be keeping during start-up if SDX is enabled. Otherwise hardware conflict ocured between BASIC and SDX. This follows from unavailability of RD5 signal on PBI. MMU simply not know and no way to know, that should disconnect BASIC ROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Important, although, in principle, obvious message: on the XL computers, OPTION key should be keeping during start-up if SDX is enabled. Otherwise hardware conflict ocured between BASIC and SDX. This follows from unavailability of RD5 signal on PBI. MMU simply not know and no way to know, that should disconnect BASIC ROM. For those who need it, I will do a tutorial on how to hook up the additional 8-conductor ribbon to supply the additional signals, including power, from the XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) About cartridge - this is my fault. I bought 30-pos. card edge connectors with flange because connectors without were practically unavailable due to lead time and/or price. I compare this ears with mine cartridges and was OK. Edited June 2, 2011 by Simius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Jacek, what about the cable I asked you? http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/179271-ide-plus-20-new-ide-host-adapter/page__view__findpost__p__2291336 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEtalGuy66 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Yeah, it just seems to be the XEGS carts that have the narrow opening. Most other carts work fine. If you shave about 1mm off the edges of the mounting ears with a dremel tool, it will fix the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Jacek, what about the cable I asked you? Not yet thought, but seems to be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Jacek, what about the cable I asked you? Not yet thought, but seems to be possible. Thank you, I don't like the big flat cable. BTW, what are the two little pieces (plastic and metal) that came with IDE+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 This is additional (if needed) power connector for 800XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 This is additional (if needed) power connector for 800XL. The plastic piece... and this piece? Ken, PCB's height seems OK with my 130XE. Problem with XEGS cartridges confirmed (in particular this is annoying with Xenophobe cartridge, not available on file). Luckily Bomb Jake cartridge is OK (file version available but without hi score saving feature). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Plasic piece is a housing. These are two terminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Plasic piece is a housing. These are two terminals. Thanks but what is the use of those 2 terminals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 For those who need it, I will do a tutorial on how to hook up the additional 8-conductor ribbon to supply the additional signals, including power, from the XL. That would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hi, IMPORTANT: the IDE+ BIOS only supports LBA mode. This means that the drive you use with it must be produced in 1996 or later. Is there any possibility to support it? The most CF (compact flash) cards with less then 4 GByte doesn´t support LBA. The most people I´ve been writing with to want to use your device with CF cards, because cheaper, absolutely no noise and no problems with not enough power from the PBI oder ECI. CF-to-44-pin-IDE adapters are cheap (less then 10 euros incl. shipping). But to buy a 4 GByte CF card is wasting money, because a lot of folks have 512 MB, 1 GB CF cards from old digital camera and so on, these cards are waiting for new life to use Best regards, Juergen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Hi, IMPORTANT: the IDE+ BIOS only supports LBA mode. This means that the drive you use with it must be produced in 1996 or later. Is there any possibility to support it? The most CF (compact flash) cards with less then 4 GByte doesn´t support LBA. The most people I´ve been writing with to want to use your device with CF cards, because cheaper, absolutely no noise and no problems with not enough power from the PBI oder ECI. CF-to-44-pin-IDE adapters are cheap (less then 10 euros incl. shipping). But to buy a 4 GByte CF card is wasting money, because a lot of folks have 512 MB, 1 GB CF cards from old digital camera and so on, these cards are waiting for new life to use Best regards, Juergen I agree. I have 2 old 1GB hard disks and yesterday I bought a 2GB CF card to use with a CF to IDE adapter! EDIT I can't test them yet because in this moment I don't have my three SIO2XX devices. Edited June 2, 2011 by Philsan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hi, IMPORTANT: the IDE+ BIOS only supports LBA mode. This means that the drive you use with it must be produced in 1996 or later. Is there any possibility to support it? The most CF (compact flash) cards with less then 4 GByte doesn´t support LBA. The most people I´ve been writing with to want to use your device with CF cards, because cheaper, absolutely no noise and no problems with not enough power from the PBI oder ECI. CF-to-44-pin-IDE adapters are cheap (less then 10 euros incl. shipping). But to buy a 4 GByte CF card is wasting money, because a lot of folks have 512 MB, 1 GB CF cards from old digital camera and so on, these cards are waiting for new life to use Best regards, Juergen Guess I was lucky then. My 2 Transcend 256Mb CF cards which I originally bought for my MyIDE + Flash cart work fine with the i/f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Thanks but what is the use of those 2 terminals? Get the 2-wire cable, terminals cut from the tape, solder to wire, insert to housing (with latch) and you just have the optional power cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) The most CF (compact flash) cards with less then 4 GByte doesn´t support LBA. This is news to me. I have a fairly diverse collection of CF cards from 64MB to 1GB and they all support LBA. I can't test them yet because in this moment I don't have my three SIO2XX devices. I posted your SIO2SD yesterday, Phil - priority registered post. Edited June 2, 2011 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Does anyone have IDEPTIME.SYS working with the RTC yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 The most CF (compact flash) cards with less then 4 GByte doesn´t support LBA. This is news to me. I have a fairly diverse collection of CF cards from 64MB to 1GB and they all support LBA. I've just read on Wiki that CF spec support 24 bit LBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 Does anyone have IDEPTIME.SYS working with the RTC yet? I looked into the source and I see now that it cannot work with the production series, because it assumes the PBI device ID to be 7, as in the prototypes, while in your interface it is 1. Will post a fixed version today along with the BIOS update which should eliminate the above "conflict" between SDX an BASIC on XL. Just have to receive confirmation from simius, that the fix works (I personally only have a 130XE, so no way to confirm that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I'm gonna get into some more testing tonight. I have a couple of other XLs to try. In the meantime - the point I raised earlier: This was originally the suggested mounting position for the XL series. However, in the case of the 600XL, it's completely impossible with an attached SIO device (presumably it wasn't tested with a 600XL). No matter, though, assuming I can attain stable operarion with the flat cable connection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Does anyone have IDEPTIME.SYS working with the RTC yet? I looked into the source and I see now that it cannot work with the production series, because it assumes the PBI device ID to be 7, as in the prototypes, while in your interface it is 1. Will post a fixed version today along with the BIOS update which should eliminate the above "conflict" between SDX an BASIC on XL. Just have to receive confirmation from simius, that the fix works (I personally only have a 130XE, so no way to confirm that). Great news! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Can someone post a picture of their CF card adapter setup? I'm having no luck with 2.5" HDDs... the computer just keeps locking up randomly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Can someone post a picture of their CF card adapter setup? I'm having no luck with 2.5" HDDs... the computer just keeps locking up randomly. Excuse the poor quality shot. This is an adapter I bought to replace my A1200 internal drive. I can take a better shot later if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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