Atari Joe Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I thought that emulators are considered Ok, like a clone, as long as they aren't distributed with the ROMs? This is the general consensus, although some of the companies consider emulation of their systems illegal because you have to make a copy outside of the context of a backup in order to properly utilize an emulator... So like, not actual DRUGS but drug PARAFANALIA then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 This really blows my mind. Ninety percent of the reason Atari even means anything at all today is fan sites keeping it alive for decades. I guess they like shooting themselves in the balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algus Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 This really blows my mind. Ninety percent of the reason Atari even means anything at all today is fan sites keeping it alive for decades. I guess they like shooting themselves in the balls. Unfortunately, modern Atari (aka Atari In Name Only) doesn't seem particularly interested in cultivating a relationship with fans of the original company and its products. Which is a shame, because you would think we would be the core audience they would want to advertise through. Still, I doubt it is animosity on their part or even a "cash grab" as some have termed it. I find it far more likely that these people know absolutely nothing of the history of their brand, its products, or its fans. The average poster on this site probably knows more about the company's history than anyone working at Atari today and that is a shame. Still, let them do their best to destroy the fanbase online. They aren't going to be able to stop people from loving the Atari 2600 but they have a very real chance of completely collapsing after driving away the last of their customers. Then we can continue unmolested by their corporate nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Phruby Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Like the Tramiels knew anything about Atari. Atari hasn't been Atari since the Warner Communication days in 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Like the Tramiels knew anything about Atari. Atari hasn't been Atari since the Warner Communication days in 1984. Atari hasn't been Atari since the Pong days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 also, isn't atari just a japanese word? like saying you own the copyright on the word 'rice' (or some other word,) in a web page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animan Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 also, isn't atari just a japanese word? like saying you own the copyright on the word 'rice' (or some other word,) in a web page? I guess the Go community isn't taking this news too well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 yea, no sheet. maybe go will sue atari? "The liberties of a single stone (Black), as White reduces those liberties by one. When Black has only one liberty left, that stone is "in atari". White may capture that stone with a play on its last liberty." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockman_x_2002 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 This really blows my mind. Ninety percent of the reason Atari even means anything at all today is fan sites keeping it alive for decades. I guess they like shooting themselves in the balls. Unfortunately, modern Atari (aka Atari In Name Only) doesn't seem particularly interested in cultivating a relationship with fans of the original company and its products. Which is a shame, because you would think we would be the core audience they would want to advertise through. Still, I doubt it is animosity on their part or even a "cash grab" as some have termed it. I find it far more likely that these people know absolutely nothing of the history of their brand, its products, or its fans. The average poster on this site probably knows more about the company's history than anyone working at Atari today and that is a shame. Still, let them do their best to destroy the fanbase online. They aren't going to be able to stop people from loving the Atari 2600 but they have a very real chance of completely collapsing after driving away the last of their customers. Then we can continue unmolested by their corporate nonsense. Ya know, that's an interesting thought. What happens if the current holder of Atari basically drives the company right into the ground? The major propper-uppers are us classic gamers anyway these days (don't hear too many modern-day gamers clamoring for Atari products by name, do you?) So let this holder run the company into the ground and make it worth, well... practically nothing. Then the community as a whole could buy it up, IP and all. That means that the community, as a whole, would own everything Atari ever did over all the years, plus allow hobbyist programmers to release games under the Atari brand directly without intervention by legal bloodhounds. Or I could be blowing smoke, I suppose. But it's just a thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 This really blows my mind. Ninety percent of the reason Atari even means anything at all today is fan sites keeping it alive for decades. I guess they like shooting themselves in the balls. Unfortunately, modern Atari (aka Atari In Name Only) doesn't seem particularly interested in cultivating a relationship with fans of the original company and its products. Which is a shame, because you would think we would be the core audience they would want to advertise through. Still, I doubt it is animosity on their part or even a "cash grab" as some have termed it. I find it far more likely that these people know absolutely nothing of the history of their brand, its products, or its fans. The average poster on this site probably knows more about the company's history than anyone working at Atari today and that is a shame. Still, let them do their best to destroy the fanbase online. They aren't going to be able to stop people from loving the Atari 2600 but they have a very real chance of completely collapsing after driving away the last of their customers. Then we can continue unmolested by their corporate nonsense. Ya know, that's an interesting thought. What happens if the current holder of Atari basically drives the company right into the ground? The major propper-uppers are us classic gamers anyway these days (don't hear too many modern-day gamers clamoring for Atari products by name, do you?) So let this holder run the company into the ground and make it worth, well... practically nothing. Then the community as a whole could buy it up, IP and all. That means that the community, as a whole, would own everything Atari ever did over all the years, plus allow hobbyist programmers to release games under the Atari brand directly without intervention by legal bloodhounds. Or I could be blowing smoke, I suppose. But it's just a thought. I was thinking the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emehr Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Me too. As far as I'm concerned, this community is Atari. We just don't own the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netsuye Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 This isn't new for atari. I mean, they sue for pretty much everything. This details a time they sued over a bad review of "Alone in the Dark". It's just even more bonkers that they would do this to someone who SUPPORTS them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazi Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Somebody get a hold of Andrew! I may have found something that will aid him! All things related to the 2600, including the name, have been cancelled by U.S. Trademark Office. Here's the link to the information I found. Tell Andrew to place a space in all text "atari2600". That should help him. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4005:jmjlt2.2.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazi Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 And this: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4005:jmjlt2.6.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Somebody get a hold of Andrew! I may have found something that will aid him! All things related to the 2600, including the name, have been cancelled by U.S. Trademark Office. Here's the link to the information I found. Tell Andrew to place a space in all text "atari2600". That should help him. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4005:jmjlt2.2.1 As far as a UDRP dispute goes that doesn't help as much as you think. You don't even need to have a trademark to file a UDRP dispute. (The UDRP route looks like Atari's best chance.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazi Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) Well...I tried anyway. Just trying to show my support What if the site was renamed to just 2600.org? There's got to be a loop hole somewhere. Maybe all of us could express our concerns on their FB Page??? Edited August 26, 2011 by kamakazi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Maybe all of us could express our concerns on their FB Page??? There is one? Anyway, maybe it is not good to put public pressure on them now, while Curt is still talking to them. If he should fail (I hope not), then we should express ourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) Anyway, maybe it is not good to put public pressure on them now, while Curt is still talking to them. If he should fail (I hope not), then we should express ourselves. And now it is being time for to do the dancing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lypkFQ3bPg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lypkFQ3bPg&rel=0 Edited August 26, 2011 by Random Terrain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Anyway, maybe it is not good to put public pressure on them now, while Curt is still talking to them. If he should fail (I hope not), then we should express ourselves. And now it is being time for to do the dancing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lypkFQ3bPg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lypkFQ3bPg&rel=0 I have a sudden urge to play Warlords with Madonna, Cher, and Don Knotts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Anyway, maybe it is not good to put public pressure on them now, while Curt is still talking to them. If he should fail (I hope not), then we should express ourselves. And now it is being time for to do the dancing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lypkFQ3bPg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lypkFQ3bPg&rel=0 I have a sudden urge to play Warlords with Madonna, Cher, and Don Knotts. which one is Madonna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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