José Pereira Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Do you all think that we all are out of this 21st century World? Do you think that 80's was that, was the Time that never will came up again... Do you think that we are different from others and that we was a time that will never happens again? This is because today I know a guy from 80's/90's Amiga... And was the first I known for Years... Today Windows buil all the stuff and kids just play but they don't know nothing about computers, even with compuetrs at school. I am from the time that in school we learn to 'key' a Type Writer with the 'Keyboard ASDQ'. Do you think that all of ours computers A8, Zxs, C64, CPC,.. learn or turn us like we are now? Edited September 19, 2011 by José Pereira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I am overflowing with 80's nostalgia... but I can't understand a thing you write. Sorry! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Well the system is now Kids in school are now users of a system and programs already done for them on a CD, no longer do they type in a program, Mind you, I would hate to try and type in 300 odd Meg of program these days, it was bad enough when you typed in a 48K program, But they do miss out on creating some thing original, and some of the kids now who comes across my A8's stuff end up looking for one so they can type in a program and see it work, or even try writing a whole new program, and finding out how to debug it. But on the whole we are end of line close outs, with a few new product being added due to the interest in old relics like ourselves. As for the 80's it was great while they lasted, but there are also thing that were bad about them. Nostalgia yes but longing to go back no, maybe if we could hitch a ride with Dr. Who back to the 80's it would be great fun for a short while, also maybe if some of the standards we had in the 80's came back it would be great, ( get rid of some of this PC crap ( not IBM Compatibles) but the other PC crap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonigann Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I love the 80's, and the 80's are back more than ever..just look at all the styles from music, clothes, shoes, fads,etc...But OP, what the hell are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 No, actually some of us feel that way about the 60's... The 80's was a bunch of potheads and slackers. Real Computers have hex keypads/toggle switches, not QWERTY keyboards. And, in a few more years, the Teenies will step into their destiny... Bob Do you all think that we all are out of this 21st century World? Do you think that 80's was that, was the Time that never will came up again... Do you think that we are different from others and that we was a time that will never happens again? This is because today I know a guy from 80's/90's Amiga... And was the first I known for Years... Today Windows buil all the stuff and kids just play but they don't know nothing about computers, even with compuetrs at school. I am from the time that in school we learn to 'key' a Type Writer with the 'Keyboard ASDQ'. Do you think that all of ours computers A8, Zxs, C64, CPC,.. learn or turn us like we are now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 I love the 80's, and the 80's are back more than ever..just look at all the styles from music, clothes, shoes, fads,etc...But OP, what the hell are you talking about? Just have a look at recently Atari tryng to close up Retro Atari named sites, Flasbacks,.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Absolutely love(d) the 80's and all its wondrous gadgets, music, and movies. I wonder how people will feel looking back at the 2000's? I already know how I'm going to feel about them and it's not particularly with anything that resembles fondness. Not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 You bet some of us feel absolutely nostalgic... ...However, I actually feel as much part of today's world, as I did in the past (except for exaggerated/parasitic social-networking, time-wasting SMS'ing, "OMGs" and stuff like that). In the consumer world, all we see around today, took off around1977 and on. Before that we had a "pre-consolidation" period, where technology effectively migrated out from larger-scale/enterprise/government applications into the main, common-stream world, thus giving birth to Altair, IMSAI, etc. However, it only was until Apple when it all TRULY took-off and made sense, consumer-wise (important things also happened accross the pond, as well). At that time, I was just a kid, who happened to live under a solid/well-constitued home, and certainly with pro-tech parents. Combine such kid's inherent curiosity with the introduction of more refined / "expressive" computing platforms (just the Atari was) and you (literally) have the genesis of an ENTIRE era, from which you are an INTEGRAL part of, right from the get-go, and one that will eventually defy and transcend the barriers of time, space, and impact almost any human being above poverty-line for the next three decades. That is precisely what made the 80's so special, and what will make it (inevitably) be remembered as a "singular" inflection point in hisotry, in which not just experimentation but actual, pure entrepreneurship converged with ripe technological advancements and, ultimately, our dreams and imagination. I was fortunate enough of been born (as an user) just about the right time, and I have survived so far these decades to see how far we have gone, and how beautiful it all started. Our ultimate value (as products of such era) resides on what OUR kids can learn from us (in contrast to a whole bunch of kids out there that will never be able to know and much less experience such historical wonder). Cheers, F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 You bet some of us feel absolutely nostalgic... ...However, I actually feel as much part of today's world, as I did in the past (except for exaggerated/parasitic social-networking, time-wasting SMS'ing, "OMGs" and stuff like that). In the consumer world, all we see around today, took off around1977 and on. Before that we had a "pre-consolidation" period, where technology effectively migrated out from larger-scale/enterprise/government applications into the main, common-stream world, thus giving birth to Altair, IMSAI, etc. However, it only was until Apple when it all TRULY took-off and made sense, consumer-wise (important things also happened accross the pond, as well). At that time, I was just a kid, who happened to live under a solid/well-constitued home, and certainly with pro-tech parents. Combine such kid's inherent curiosity with the introduction of more refined / "expressive" computing platforms (just the Atari was) and you (literally) have the genesis of an ENTIRE era, from which you are an INTEGRAL part of, right from the get-go, and one that will eventually defy and transcend the barriers of time, space, and impact almost any human being above poverty-line for the next three decades. That is precisely what made the 80's so special, and what will make it (inevitably) be remembered as a "singular" inflection point in hisotry, in which not just experimentation but actual, pure entrepreneurship converged with ripe technological advancements and, ultimately, our dreams and imagination. I was fortunate enough of been born (as an user) just about the right time, and I have survived so far these decades to see how far we have gone, and how beautiful it all started. Our ultimate value (as products of such era) resides on what OUR kids can learn from us (in contrast to a whole bunch of kids out there that will never be able to know and much less experience such historical wonder). Cheers, F. Do you think that they, the kids of today, will never feel and remmenber, teach to their children the same as we are still here talking about Pac-Man,...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Do you think that they, the kids of today, will never feel and remmenber, teach to their children the same as we are still here talking about Pac-Man,...? Funny thing is.. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems all the decades had their own "feel". From the 20's, the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60', 70's, 80's. They all had their signature fashion and look, and they all had their era of music. But once the 90's hit.. it started to get really generic. The 90's had a certain style all it's own, but really when it was 2001ish or so, it didn't feel all that different. And now here we are in 2011 and aside from technology getting better, I can't really differentiate the 2010's from the 2000's.. and the 90's for all that matters. There's no signature music, and there's no defining looks. Maybe I'm just getting old. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 Do you think that they, the kids of today, will never feel and remmenber, teach to their children the same as we are still here talking about Pac-Man,...? Funny thing is.. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems all the decades had their own "feel". From the 20's, the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60', 70's, 80's. They all had their signature fashion and look, and they all had their era of music. But once the 90's hit.. it started to get really generic. The 90's had a certain style all it's own, but really when it was 2001ish or so, it didn't feel all that different. And now here we are in 2011 and aside from technology getting better, I can't really differentiate the 2010's from the 2000's.. and the 90's for all that matters. There's no signature music, and there's no defining looks. Maybe I'm just getting old. Yeah. something that... Probably Eighties were more slow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (...) Do you think that they, the kids of today, will never feel and remmenber, teach to their children the same as we are still here talking about Pac-Man,...? ...It's hard to say, José. ...It all depends at their age, their memories, the EMOTIONS linked to such memories (I have plenty of heart-filling memories about my home, my parents, Christmas, etc.) and, above all, what really fuels their interest / curiosity. During the weekends (only), my kids are playing an occasional mix of Wii, PS3, PC (and now discovering the Atari). They LOVE Little Big Planet I/II, Lego Star Wars III, Pixel Junk Monsters, Pixel Junk Shooters (which I believe could be ported to Atari, for the most). We also have stuff like Namco Museum Essentials, latest version of PacMan (tournament/championship, if I recall correctly), and a host of select games (not to mention Mame from an HDMI-equipped Laptop), all running on a large and high-quality LCD screen, at 1080p on Dolby 5.1 or PCM 5.1/7.1 HiDef sound. What's nice about Little Big Planet is that they don't necesarily play the OEM/mainstream levels but go to "spaces" where you combine certain elements (freely) and animate-them/test-them with the games' engine and physics. They absolutely love creating flying things, attaching rockets to them, firing-them-up, playing fictitious Titanic levels (swimming out of peril, etc.) Even their friends (who seem to favor this gaming dynamics more than first-person shooters, etc.), enjoy a ton. In any case, they are still very young (under 10 years). The graphics, colors and overall effects on this framework are to-die-for (based on our standards)... yet my kids are not really into looking "inside" of the machine or what makes it special (as I was), but rather extracting as much joy from their gaming experience (with naturally and equal creativity and curiosity as I would otherwise dig inside the machine). In short, for them, the technology is a given, and the user experience is what the seem to care for. Whether is BluRay, Hi-Def sound, PS3, etc., it does not seem at the center of their curiosity. This is an area where the Atari's can help, because they not only help showing the essence of good, thought-instilling gaming, but it also puts in perspective how much FIREPOWER these kids have at their fingertips, with their Six-Axis Controllers/Gamepads and their PS3s. There is no doubt their experience and driving-factors are different than mine, though. We will see, when they grow-up a bit more, what is going to be at the fore-front of their memories. I do hope that such natural, unbounded curiosity and creativity NEVER EVER subsides, and they keep that inner-child always alive, so they can go back to it, as an alternate source of inner-strength and energy... regardless of good or bad times, and (above all), once my time with them comes to an end. F. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Do you think that they, the kids of today, will never feel and remmenber, teach to their children the same as we are still here talking about Pac-Man,...? Funny thing is.. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems all the decades had their own "feel". From the 20's, the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60', 70's, 80's. They all had their signature fashion and look, and they all had their era of music. But once the 90's hit.. it started to get really generic. The 90's had a certain style all it's own, but really when it was 2001ish or so, it didn't feel all that different. And now here we are in 2011 and aside from technology getting better, I can't really differentiate the 2010's from the 2000's.. and the 90's for all that matters. There's no signature music, and there's no defining looks. Maybe I'm just getting old. Same here. There was a sharp delineation after 1989-1990 where the development of "culture" seemed to go flat. A mass dumbing-down and corporate hollowness seemed to pervade media. By corporate hollowness I mean that everything was/is the same and had little personality. The late 60's, all the 70's and most all the 80's were pretty good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Regarding post #12, we had to build our own rockets and were damned lucky to have any kind of video output device.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarian63 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Absolutely love(d) the 80's and all its wondrous gadgets, music, and movies. I wonder how people will feel looking back at the 2000's? I already know how I'm going to feel about them and it's not particularly with anything that resembles fondness. Not even close. Same here, things were really new and groundbreaking! Very exciting in the 80's. You are sure right! the 2000's are not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 EDIT: Oops, it wasn't suppose to be like this... But o.k., sorry, you don't have to read this nor listen. Albert sorry to, but started and when I saw I was with this large post ant was two or three Hours later. In Music, for example there's a revival from 80's. In Eighties music 'not Mainstream broups' were outside T.Vs., outside Tops,... Now I just can't understand why, but there's a lot of revival from the 80's... For example, here in Potugal we have lots of guys doing, get, taking the same type of music and sounds from the Eighties. For example, I go into Town center abd I see lots of Punks, Gothics,... Although I think that they aren't in the same wave as I was in My Cure/Joy Division 'way of'... They seems 'very clean', 'very pop', 'very fashion'... And again, is it me... that just can't go other way. Something like, for example in Music, we had back then, at least I had at school, strikes with Heavy Methal guys, others with Punks,... Probably the same Eighties feeling thatwe are here, A8 guys and that 'Infinite' A8 vs C64, it's in our Blood. It something that even Albert would never end and he can try, he can Lock the Threads but will be one more on the other day I may leave you know with some revival, something from today that remembers me old songs... Something I like, but something that have this Nostalgy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOyfLBYtuU This Florence + The Machine have a 'beat' that reminds me from old days... In that old days if I want to listen this I had to listen in Home, in Privat, this just didn't sold... Now all kids listen this. This has good souns/Instruments and a Harpe This is soo good and this reminds me of Siousxie and the Banshees... I had to go into a Dark place (as it must be) to listen Siouxsie, Cure, Bahaus, Echo and Bunnyman, Joy Division,... Now they like this like if it is Mainstream... Strange, very strange... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 This Florence + The Machine has something today like like exactly same as Siouxsie and the Banshees, Enya, Kate Bush, Liz Frazer, Liza Gerald,... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhZXibOdhs&feature=related Or Anna Calvi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMtz1d0ruAk&feature=related Or the the now 'coming to old' P.J. Harvey (she's 'clean' of love for Nick Cave ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBtOWXNPQ_w&feature=artist A Bjork with her strike with this World,, the beauty of her that she will ever seems a young girl, something she has: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KxtgS2lU94&feature=relmfu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 Enya and my Irish likes/believe, something about the Celtic presence in North of Portugal, someday I will learn Gaelic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyR1c7CWCQw&feature=related Elizabeth frazer with her Angelic/Encantatory out of this World Voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh83z5vIP0w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl5EqjtRuGU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqEYJnIWgeE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mUmdR69nbM&feature=related that some people only listen her only this time because of the Parfum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgsTKZhwSn0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 And 4AD and Ivo Watts Russell, and of course Dead Can dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhVM930YXY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNxa0odpCJU&feature=related And not only Woman as long as they have a Man to sing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiGXnI7CM1k&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL75B02AF953ABA040 And we must never forget the old traditional song: -> More old/riginal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8aQm3SoyI4 -> From Dead can Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcmpBCXOgVI And on our A8: http://asma.atari.or...ch.php?play=351 And from the old days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hMagNuhLkk How was possible that I went to that 'dark disco places' to dance this type of Musics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHs9NBxH7F8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHkr4pb8Hcc&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 Am I really Retro in all? I am listen Anna Calvi because she's great (and because of Nick Cave her), I am listen PJ Harvey, I am listen Evanscense for all the Ghotic feelings it offers me... But I am also, sometimes, into more Pop songs like Arcade Fire, Divine Comedy... Did I ever grew up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCuSo8q7HnI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS1KVjQ1-qo&feature=related How this always make me cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5LJWG-sQys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMyhM7dwHw And why I can't go much further, much more 'Noisy/Heavy' tha this? Probably because I always preferred POKEY than SID For the ones that get here, into the end and for all the others, a big, big 'THANKS'! Just because I can't sleep... José Pereira. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 For me the 80's are still going. With the exception of internet, there isn't much that has really changed for me. I live the same, use the same computers, have the same audio gear, etc... If I take a picture of my house right now, I think the only things that prove it was not taken in the 80's are the Atari Jaguar and Falcon. No things like flatscreens, DVD players, surround systems and mobile phones will be on it but old comics, 5,25 floppies, vinyl records, CD's, some DAT tapes and a "President Zachary T." AM CB radio on the table in stead and while viewing thru the windows one will only see a '74 Cadillac on the driveway and a '68 Ford Cortina in front of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'll start off in the area of music subcultures... Do you think that they, the kids of today, will never feel and remmenber, teach to their children the same as we are still here talking about Pac-Man,...? Funny thing is.. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems all the decades had their own "feel". From the 20's, the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60', 70's, 80's. They all had their signature fashion and look, and they all had their era of music. But once the 90's hit.. it started to get really generic. The 90's had a certain style all it's own, but really when it was 2001ish or so, it didn't feel all that different. And now here we are in 2011 and aside from technology getting better, I can't really differentiate the 2010's from the 2000's.. and the 90's for all that matters. There's no signature music, and there's no defining looks. Maybe I'm just getting old. Same here. There was a sharp delineation after 1989-1990 where the development of "culture" seemed to go flat. A mass dumbing-down and corporate hollowness seemed to pervade media. By corporate hollowness I mean that everything was/is the same and had little personality. That sums it up. For me, I would pretty much say that the year that the original incarnation of Jane's Addiction broke up, 1991, is the Year of the Sharp Delineation. The First Lollapalooza was pretty much the Last Gasp of the widespread musical counter-culture that had evolved from about 1968 (Doors & Psychedelica bands), early 70s (Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, Deep Purple), mid 70's (UK & NY punk, Van Halen), early 80s (Oldschool Metal, Tubeway Army-type New Wave, Goth, Industrial, CA Hardcore Punk, SF Thrash Metal), 84-89 NYC Hardcore... missing lots there, but you get the idea, music considered "Dangerous", by the "Mainstream". 1992- until third quarter of 2001 was a distinct period, and late 2001 until Today, 2011, is a distinct period. Both of these periods largely suck. ha. ...but they had their moments. The version of Woodstock that got lit on fire, in 1999 pretty much marked the dramatic change in how rock music was handled by the media. The push for easily-controllable Mainstream Multiculturally PC HipHopist-Anticulture occurred, on a very large scale, directly as a result of that event being televised. I say "Anticulture" because it is distinctly different than a "Counterculture". For the most part, a counterculture is formed by groups of people trying to make changes in society which are usually "For the Betterment" of the society on the whole, whereas, an "Anticulture" destroys the cultural fabric of society, and seeks to worsen quality of life within a given society. It is sort of like the difference between someone wanting to get water to the people by building irrigation systems, compared to someone who wants to poison the existing systems with loads of Prozac. Both groups think that they can change things & "make people happier"... lol... but in faaaaar different ways! Sadly, in the end, it often comes down to media sales figures, and companies looking to cash in on forms of "safe rebellion". There is one commonality, though, both Counterculture & Anitculture have the side-effect-like ability to keep jails full. I could expand on that for the course of a full book, easily. ...& I haven't even begun to mention the Mainstream Consumerist media pablum, which reared it's ugly head with Madonna, New Kids on the Block, Spice Girls, Brittany Spears, ad infinitum... (it's been there all along, via Disco, Cool Jazz, Dance, and Modern Country, but we don't have all day here... ha. Getting back to things... there are some subcultural exceptions... late 1988-1999 was the time that "Industrial Music" changed from it's more abstract roots, and became a much larger subculture. Industrial became more "Metal" after Ministry's "LOR&H" album, which was a good thing for thrash & old-school metal musicians who had been largely displaced by commercial Glam metal, then Grunge, then NU-Metal... much to the chagrin of those who preferred the pre-1988 Industrial genre. Goth & Deathrock, around since the late mid 70s to early 80s finally found it's place in the world of larger-scale subcultures from 1988 onward, reaching a high-point (club-scene-wise) in 1999-2000, then Goth started a slow decline that reaches to today, as Deahrock became more & more popular. The funny thing about Goth is that most of the good material was written before 1984... kinda the same for Deathrock in about 1986, but as Goth got more commercial, to the point of self-parody, Deathrock made a roots-comeback, and remains a fairly large underground subculture... one of the few underground rock subcultures left. Sure, there was "Emo", and "Scene"... but really, now! All of us know that it's just a fashion rehash of punk, new wave, industrial, & goth... it's just that it's cleansed and made safe, with no connection to a "Dangerous Subculture". LSD replaced by Coke, replaced by Crack, replaced by heroin, replaced by Pot, supplemented by TV Pharmaceuticals. Every era has it's drugs of choice, and drug-realities have a wide effect on how art is made, and how it is marketed & consumed. 2011 started with Barney the Purple Dinosaur, and "Don't Worry Be Happy", & "Drug Free School Zones", then kids had to wear helmets & protective gear BY LAW, then when you are 16 and drunk riding on your BMX bicycle, you get legal repercussions on an Automobile License that you wouldn't even have for another year, then Spongebob, then laissez-faire Bi-polar-Bi-Partisanship in government representation & leadership... The people don't care at all, they're out of their gourds on high THC pot, a chemical stew of Anti-Depressants and Medications that do not treat or cure any ilness... & you know what? Their fu*king and making more useless cannon & media fodder, thanks to Viagra & pills of that ilk. Great. Some way to beat Natural Selection. I could go on & on, but really, it is the stewing cocktail of Media-served Anticulture that has driven us into this 20 year Dark Age. People have been reduced to sales units & votes, and their lives themselves matter very little. That is the real core of what is Different from then & now. DEVO was right. Jello was right. They saw all this coming. "We must repeat". De-Evolution is real. "You too will meet the Suede-Denim Secret Police"... Take a good look at every lyric penned by the Dead Kennedys... Look familiar? It describes the insidiousness of 2011 much more chillingly than you could ever have imagined 25-30 years ago... down to the Key-players, in many cases. So, no, I can't say that i didn't see it coming. I can say I was happier in the 1980s, even though I knew exactly what an Akula class submarine was, and how my happy little existence could turn to the Channel 03 "Gnat Fights" with the press of a few buttons. Is there a solution? Be DIY, make your own art, make your own music, do the exact opposite of everyone else, avoid mainstream media, pretend that you have never heard of modern celebrities, or mainstream pop icons, keep yourself healthy, so that you can think clearly, and, most importantly, try to spread these strange concepts to others. I will tell you why... We are Living History, right now. Just like Babylon, the Fall of Rome, the onset of the Dark Ages, the Fall of the Soviet Union... the same type of ! APATHY ! is leading us down a very familiar path. It's up to you to stop it. "Good Night, and Good Luck". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) I loathed the Eighties when I was living through them as a teenager (I recall looking at my own clothes even then as well as those around me and knowing that something was just wrong), and I find that when I look back at media output from that decade, much of it seems horribly dated. Of course this is because the decade had a very strong, unmistakable identity. At what other time in history could we enjoy mullet hair-styles, grey wallpaper with diagonal red stripes (presumably the inspiration for the XE line), flourescent socks, etc? So I suppose the strong visual and musical style was a good thing: the decade was anything but diluted. I happen to like some of the music from the time, but home computing is one of the few memories which prompts intense nostalgia. But even my beloved Ataris seem to fall into two groups: the earlier XL which is perhaps less "of its time" but more of a classic and enduring design piece, and the XE, which shouts Eighties, and is the one I grew up with. Oddly enough, for a long time I tended to regard the onset of the Nineties as the end of the dark ages. This might be because I left school in 1989, but the onset of Seattle Grunge, the commencement of my college years, and the replacement of Farrah trousers with a decent pair of jeans also had a lot to do with it. Maybe any decade which started when I was eighteen and ended when I was twenty-eight was bound to be a good one. My favourite bands of the time enjoyed a renaissance: the influences of Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, et al were all thrown into sharp retrospective focus by the resurgent popularity of raw guitar music, and then - as my attention turned to jazz in the second half of the decade - Soul-Jazz artists from the Sixties suddenly became cool again. I was a half decent guitar player by now, and circumstance also dictated that these were also the best years of my life as far as the Atari was concerned: I still used the little 65XE for all my writing and studies until almost the end of the decade. Only with the benefit of hindsight do the Nineties look not so good. They saw the onset of "yoof" culture, and I think that decade seems more transitional now than anything else. But unfortunately the Nineties were the best years of my life. I'm happier now, though, because I make a point of always being happier in the present. After all: if you're not, you need to change your situation. Of course, society has completely disintegrated since the Eighties, but that's another story... Edited September 20, 2011 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) How this always make me cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5LJWG-sQys And why I can't go much further, much more 'Noisy/Heavy' tha this? Probably because I always preferred POKEY than SID okay... have this then [media=''] [/media] I prefer this myself though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx58hXh4pVA EDIT: I've just found the goattracker editor file, so if anyone wants it to build a pokey version then feel free....my_immortal.zip Edited September 20, 2011 by sack-c0s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I think that the whole reason that a lot of us are members of this site is down to 80s nostalgia. As much as I love Atari, it's not as powerful as my PC or even my BlackBerry, but it's nostalgia that brings me back to it. With Atari software, any run of the mill game doesn't excite me, the games that excite me are those which push the limits of the Atari or have a new gameplay style which I have never seen before. I like to bring back that feeling which I had as a child coming back from the local newsagents with an Atari game (usually hard to find amongst all the Spectrum/C64/CPC games). The one thing which I never reminisce over is the loading process. My avatar shows what I hated seeing. And some games (especially 'Mad Jax') used to give me load error problems all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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