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#26 Brian O OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:33 PM

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:45 AM

I've slowed down the bat's speed.

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:35 AM

Hi gang, major bug fixes in this version. First off, you'll notice that the screen no longer jitters. Also, the celery no longer jitters when he's falling. Before, while he was falling, he would occasionally go up a pixel. I think this makes the level runs more smoothly.

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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:24 PM

Bat speed is perfect for early stages.

I had a thought about the side-scrolling stages: You could fake pixel perfect side-scrolling by using both balls as edges on the platforms. One ball for the left edge and one ball for the right edge. Instead of moving per playfield pixel you would move the balls until reaching a pfpixels length and then move the playfield horizontally.

Edited by theloon, Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:26 PM.


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Posted Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:22 PM

Bat speed is perfect for early stages.

I had a thought about the side-scrolling stages: You could fake pixel perfect side-scrolling by using both balls as edges on the platforms. One ball for the left edge and one ball for the right edge. Instead of moving per playfield pixel you would move the balls until reaching a pfpixels length and then move the playfield horizontally.

You only get one ball. If you're talking about missiles, I can't do that, either, because missile1 is the celery, player1 are objects, and player0 are enemies. I don't have missile0 to work with because I'm using no_blank_lines.

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Posted Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:32 AM

Made a little ditty for level 2. You start at it on this version after the title screen. Let me know what your thoughts on it are.

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Posted Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:36 AM

Good:
Sounds like the circus and Candy Land. Good for 2600 sounds.

Picky:
I could honestly only take it repeating for a short level. The low notes are not pleasing due to being 2600 off-key. It almost feels like it needs another stanza (a little bit more).

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Posted Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:23 AM

How about this song?

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Posted Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:17 PM

atari2600land, I enjoyed trying out your game this afternoon. It was interesting, too, seeing various changes along the way. If I may be so bold as to add my constructive criticism: the first level is too fast... it seems like you must run the entire time... for those of us who often stop and time our jumps more carefully (or just goof off for a while) the timer runs out. The second level is fun, but not enough reason to stop on the ledges... I only saw one pretzel... give us a reason to want to stop on the ledges, otherwise, why bother?, just keep falling.

Also, as the timer reaches 10 seconds or so, make an annoying alarm bell or set the music to double speed or ...something... to let us know that we need to hurry up.

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Posted Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:42 PM

I hope you don't mind, but I got my hands on this game and I really like it; the idea of controlling a 50-foot-tall stalk of celery is hilarious, as well as pig enemies and stale pretzels for power ups! :lol:

...Though I thought that I would like to help somehow, so I edited the sprites a little bit in the Hack-O-Matic program! :D

Here are some screenshots of the pigs and the pretzel after I edited their sprites-

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I'm not sure that the changes will carry over to Visual bB, because I used the Hack-O-Matic. :-\

Hope you like it! Keep up the good work. :) :thumbsup:


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Posted Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:17 AM

OK, I'll change the levels a bit. First thing to do is to add some time to level 1, and then add some more pretzels to level 2. As for the modified sprites, I'll download the binary file and replicate them, since I can't really add them without a batari Basic file.

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Posted Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:18 AM

CHANGES:
Level 1's time limit is 90 seconds.
Changed the pig sprite in level 1
Added a pretzel in the beginning of level 2
changed level 2's music to more reflect the way I composed the music.

Keep the constructive criticism coming, I want this game to be as good as it possibly can. Also, if you want to design a bat sprite for me, feel free to. I think the one I did is kinda stupid looking.

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Posted Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:43 PM

I like the new version. Level 1 has a good amount of piggies and enough time to complete it. Level 2 has new pretzels -yes!- and I like the tune.

As a (sometimes) musician, if I may offer a bit of musical "constructive" criticism: don't be afraid of including "rests" in your tune. A slight pause in the melody, like where a singer would take a breath. For example the slight pause between "...gently down the stream" and "merrily, merrily, merrily..."

Regarding Level 1, is it too late to add clouds or something? (The sky seems a bit plain as you concentrate on the platform, I think.) As I said, though, I think you did well on the music for Level 2. The bats are a tad challenging, too. So, overall, I like where you have this going.

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Posted Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:40 PM

The game in level 1 would take up too many cycles if I added scrolling clouds along with the scrolling platform.
Level 2 is completed. The time limit is 80 seconds and there are a total of 3 pretzels and 44 screens in the stage. It's bigger than stage 1 which only had 32 screens.
Level 3 will be an ice world with penguin enemies and it will be slippery like in SMB3. Feel free to design a bat and/or penguin.

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Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:51 PM

Here is a sprite sheet for a bat. Two frames for flying and one for roosting:

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Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:13 PM

Here's the flying bat sprites theloon designed in the game.

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Posted Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:48 PM

Work has begun on level 3. It's an ice world. I plan to have the music be "Winter Wonderland" because it's an ice world. Also, because it's an ice world, it's slippery. Once you get past a certain point that's not very far past the first ledge, the game goes back to the title screen. This is because I haven't programmed the level very far. Let me know if there's any bugs. Also, if someone could design a penguin sprite, that would be really groovy.

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Posted Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:44 AM

Could someone test this and tell me if it runs on real hardware? The reason I'm asking is because it doesn't work OK when I put 'set debug cyclescore' in and does when it's not in there. If not, then I'll have to go back to the drawing board. Either that or shelve the game.

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Posted Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:11 AM

I have not been following this too close, but just gave it a try. I got a couple seconds in and fell through an unseen hole, then was able to keep scrolling right. If I kept jumping it slowly came back up onto the screen, then the screen started to flicker and jump and the music went odd.
Kinda hard to explain...

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Posted Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:09 PM

This happened because I have only designed the level up to four screens.

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Posted Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:50 PM

This happened because I have only designed the level up to four screens.


50celery22.bas.bin loops back to the title screen when the timer reaches ~87. Not enough time to tell if the rest of the game is working properly.
50celery24.bas.bin starts normal, but the timer stops at 89. You are still able to move and jump but no enemies appear and you eventually fall through the ground.

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Posted Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:24 PM

I wonder why it's working odd for you, Brian, when it's working fine for me. In 50celery24.bin, the timer works just fine. Unless you are testing this on real hardware, which would mean that this game wouldn't work. I had an idea though: I wonder if the game would use less cycles if I used the player0scores and player1scores instead of the standard score. In this case, that would mean I'd have to get rid of the title screen for now and replace it with a black screen. I tried this on Stella 3.4.1 and it seems OK on my end.

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Posted Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:51 PM

Weird. Let me check to make sure I have the latest version of Stella. Keep you posted.

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Posted Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:23 AM

I have not been following this too close, but just gave it a try. I got a couple seconds in and fell through an unseen hole, then was able to keep scrolling right. If I kept jumping it slowly came back up onto the screen, then the screen started to flicker and jump and the music went odd.
Kinda hard to explain...

I should have stated, I tested it on a Harmony on a heavy Sixer, sorry.

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Posted Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:35 PM

Like my penguin sprite? I don't. Can anyone do better?

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