GameGirl420 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I wish I had Air Raid in my collection. That little blue cartridge looks so cool. Played Chase the Chuckwagon this morning and made it to the 4th level. But the cart accidentally fell on the floor when I put it back on the game stack . Still works though of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Monogrammed Space Chase. Has this ever been proven to exist? Last I knew there was still no definitive proof. That's why it's a "Holy Grail", if something has been definitely found, it's no longer a "holy grail", just a "really rare game". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't know, for a game that has not been proven to exist, like Red Sea Crossing and Monogrammed Space Chase, I would leave those in the 'Unconfirmed' catagory. And with all due respect, Extra Terrestials may only have 2 copies but it doesn't look like the game was ever sold into the hands of consumers, despite their best efforts, so I would call that a 'Unreleased' game. Still very rare and expensive, but not a 'Holy Grail'. To me, a 'Holy Grail' is a game that was confirmed to have been released and sold during the life of the system, and actually got into consumers hands, despite how rare that it may be. Something like Bandai's Stadium Events for the NES, or Spider Man for the Serga 32X. So I'd put Air Raid right up there as the Holy Grain for the 2600. How many confirmed copies of that game has been found, anyway? And yes, Wonder is the one who won that ony known boxed copy of Air Raid. I wish I had that kind of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't know, for a game that has not been proven to exist, like Red Sea Crossing and Monogrammed Space Chase, I would leave those in the 'Unconfirmed' catagory. http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/186788-red-sea-crossing-ad/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntavio Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'm going to say CIB Air Raid and CIB ATARI BMX Airmaster NTSC. I don't think Red Sea Crossing has been verified to actually exist despite the ads recently found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Monogrammed Space Chase. Has this ever been proven to exist? Last I knew there was still no definitive proof. I don't know if an actual one has been found, but I saw an ad for it by Apollo in an old videogame magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't know, for a game that has not been proven to exist, like Red Sea Crossing and Monogrammed Space Chase, I would leave those in the 'Unconfirmed' catagory. http://www.atariage....ea-crossing-ad/ Yes, I'm aware of the add. There's still no proof, though, that the game was actually SOLD. That is, they may have run that add intending for it come out but something happened and it never did. Sometimes that happened with other games, also. Until a copy actually turns up in a collector's hands, I'll still call it a 'unconfirmed' game. That said, I do firmly believe a copy is out there somewhere.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't know, for a game that has not been proven to exist, like Red Sea Crossing and Monogrammed Space Chase, I would leave those in the 'Unconfirmed' catagory. http://www.atariage....ea-crossing-ad/ Yes, I'm aware of the add. There's still no proof, though, that the game was actually SOLD. That is, they may have run that add intending for it come out but something happened and it never did. Sometimes that happened with other games, also. Until a copy actually turns up in a collector's hands, I'll still call it a 'unconfirmed' game. That said, I do firmly believe a copy is out there somewhere.... Why doesn't the one that was found count? It was found in the wild, not by the programmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't know, for a game that has not been proven to exist, like Red Sea Crossing and Monogrammed Space Chase, I would leave those in the 'Unconfirmed' catagory. http://www.atariage....ea-crossing-ad/ Yes, I'm aware of the add. There's still no proof, though, that the game was actually SOLD. That is, they may have run that add intending for it come out but something happened and it never did. Sometimes that happened with other games, also. Until a copy actually turns up in a collector's hands, I'll still call it a 'unconfirmed' game. That said, I do firmly believe a copy is out there somewhere.... Why doesn't the one that was found count? It was found in the wild, not by the programmer. Huh? That thread you linked to, as I recall it from when it happened, was for the proof of the ad being found, not a copy of the game..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't know, for a game that has not been proven to exist, like Red Sea Crossing and Monogrammed Space Chase, I would leave those in the 'Unconfirmed' catagory. http://www.atariage....ea-crossing-ad/ Yes, I'm aware of the add. There's still no proof, though, that the game was actually SOLD. That is, they may have run that add intending for it come out but something happened and it never did. Sometimes that happened with other games, also. Until a copy actually turns up in a collector's hands, I'll still call it a 'unconfirmed' game. That said, I do firmly believe a copy is out there somewhere.... Why doesn't the one that was found count? It was found in the wild, not by the programmer. Huh? That thread you linked to, as I recall it from when it happened, was for the proof of the ad being found, not a copy of the game..... Ah, you must have missed the original thread then: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't know, for a game that has not been proven to exist, like Red Sea Crossing and Monogrammed Space Chase, I would leave those in the 'Unconfirmed' catagory. http://www.atariage....ea-crossing-ad/ Yes, I'm aware of the add. There's still no proof, though, that the game was actually SOLD. That is, they may have run that add intending for it come out but something happened and it never did. Sometimes that happened with other games, also. Until a copy actually turns up in a collector's hands, I'll still call it a 'unconfirmed' game. That said, I do firmly believe a copy is out there somewhere.... Why doesn't the one that was found count? It was found in the wild, not by the programmer. Huh? That thread you linked to, as I recall it from when it happened, was for the proof of the ad being found, not a copy of the game..... Ah, you must have missed the original thread then: http://www.atariage....d-sea-crossing/ Oh yes! That thread. I ignored that cause there's sitll no proof the game actually exists. I don't believe that guy. I think he's just pulling a fast one on us. Show me a copy that someone like Wonder has, or dump the ROM on the web, and THEN I'll believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Oh yes! That thread. I ignored that cause there's sitll no proof the game actually exists. I don't believe that guy. I think he's just pulling a fast one on us. Show me a copy that someone like Wonder has, or dump the ROM on the web, and THEN I'll believe it. Fair enough, though I don't quite understand. He posted pictures of the cart, screenshots, and even a video of the gameplay. It'd be a lot of work to fake something like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 The fact he seems so reluctant to say very much about it makes me doubt it, although I do grant it could be a copy. One copy, though, could be anything from a protoype to a special gift from the programer. I'd say also for a 'Holy Grail' status it needs to have at least....oh, 5 copies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Andrew Davie Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Well, we have different definitions of what "holy grail" is. For me, the holy grail was always Boulder Dash®. Because it was considered next-to-impossible to implement for the '2600. Now it's done, I suppose it's not the holy grail anymore. The holy grail is always something you don't have, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberpunk Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 come on guys we all know it's Pac-Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 well i dont know how crypts of chaos is on there. but i think there are only under 20 known copies of air raid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 The fact he seems so reluctant to say very much about it makes me doubt it, although I do grant it could be a copy. One copy, though, could be anything from a protoype to a special gift from the programer. I'd say also for a 'Holy Grail' status it needs to have at least....oh, 5 copies. It's a copy for sure. My Holy Grail would be this one: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-go-go-home-monster_15661.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 for me it's still chase the chuckwagon, my first holy grail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Oh yes! That thread. I ignored that cause there's sitll no proof the game actually exists. I don't believe that guy. I think he's just pulling a fast one on us. Show me a copy that someone like Wonder has, or dump the ROM on the web, and THEN I'll believe it. Fair enough, though I don't quite understand. He posted pictures of the cart, screenshots, and even a video of the gameplay. It'd be a lot of work to fake something like that! Yeah if that is the case, who knows if Wonder even owns anything as he never shows any of his carts. Edited January 29, 2012 by high voltage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yeah if that is the case, who knows if Wonder even owns anything as he never shows any of his carts. I snapped this quick pic a while back when I was flying over his 'complex'...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntavio Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yeah if that is the case, who knows if Wonder even owns anything as he never shows any of his carts. I snapped this quick pic a while back when I was flying over his 'complex'...... Great "big picture" but I like the pic you snapped when inside the complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Great "big picture" but I like the pic you snapped when inside the complex. I think CPUWIZ got the best angle on it, though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntavio Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Great "big picture" but I like the pic you snapped when inside the complex. I think CPUWIZ got the best angle on it, though! That's the picture! My apologies to CPU for the wrong photgrapher's credit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hah I was right, not a cart to be seen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 well i dont know how crypts of chaos is on there. but i think there are only under 20 known copies of air raid He must be referring to the Xante "blue cart" version. http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=1149 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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