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#1 krypton85 OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:12 AM

I've been working on creating an official A8 Label Variation List.
Currently only doing Atari manufactured cartridges, I'll do the rest later.

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A8 LABEL VARIATION LIST

If you have something not on the list yet, please send me a PM, and post pictures to this thread.
I have photos of each of the variations on this list so far, taken from AA, Pitfalljones.com, eBay, and
other various places around the web.

ENJOY!

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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:38 AM

Good idea, I was only looking for a list like this the other day. I doubt I'll be able to contribute but I'll check my carts just in case

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Posted Sat Feb 4, 2012 6:06 AM

I've been through your list and had a look at my carts. I can only find two that don't appear on your list

Your list has

Lode Runner:
a) Cart: 2, Label: 2, ©1987, Printed in Taiwan

I'm guessing you meant label 3?

Anyway there is also a Cart 3 Label 3 (which I'm guessing a lot of people have?)

And I have a

Cart 1 Label 3 Eastern Front, again I'm guessing that if I've got one then it's pretty common

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Posted Sat Feb 4, 2012 12:58 PM

Good call on the Label: 2 typo, fixed and added the other, is the cart 3, label 3 also 1987, printed in taiwan? can you get a pic of it?

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Posted Sun Feb 5, 2012 4:54 AM

Lode Runner pic

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Posted Sun Feb 5, 2012 5:30 AM

Just had a quick scan down this list
http://www.mr-atari.com/atari8bit.htm


And think these may be additions to your list

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Have a closer look down his list as there may be others. Hopefully he doesn't mind me borrowing his pictures ;-)


Is the 'Mario: Cart 3 Label 2' on your list right?

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Posted Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:07 PM

Went through the list and updated as needed, that pengo is a knockoff, so I'm not including it on the list of atari made games..

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Posted Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:45 AM

Surprised there hasn't been any more replies to this. I guess there are plenty of A8 cart lists around but I haven't seen any that are complete in terms of cart/label variation

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Posted Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:34 PM

I would think a project like this would be very difficult :) Remember some of those distributors and Atari service and sales outfits made labels, and still do. The silver 3D tic-tac-toe is one of them. I believe the Eastern front XE was also a label made by a distributor.
So you might try to filter out homemade/non-production labels. Unless you're noting all of those too?

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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:55 AM

Yep difficult, he'll need help.

Definitely need to filter out home made labels. Have a look through your collections people.

Could this list feed the rarities list here on atariage? I know that the rarities list was dropped in favour of using the atarimania rarities guide but it's a nice looking list and there are already quite a few cart scans up there so a good start. I think if the list was to be stored here people would be more interested in contributing perhaps?

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Posted Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:39 PM

Updated the list and added photos / scans of most of the variations.

How can you tell if a label was applied via a 3rd party? The 3dTTT one was by best electronics IIRC, and I noted it in the list.

Pretty please go through your collection and check if you have anything not in the list, and if you have better pictures or scans of what's on the site, please post them to this forum.

I assume this basic cartridge is a 3rd party label:
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I want to try and have as complete a list as possible, but I don't think that cart was made by atari. It looks like a brown roklan cart.

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Posted Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:51 AM

Updated the site and added Roklan titles to the list

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Posted Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:12 AM

Going back over the roklan titles, some of these appear to have the label on backwards and appear to not have two notches out of the bottom. See below pics:

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Here are a few ones with the notches:

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I am viewing the two different types of cutouts as variations, but can someone confirm if some labels are on backwards?
If this is the case, I'll have to remove two entries

Edited by krypton85, Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:14 AM.


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Posted Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:14 AM

Alright,

here you have it - my version of "Star Raiders" as a completely recycled product of Atari Corp.

a)This is the cartridge which looks like one of the XL series with silver-label (shows two carts, the newer silver-label version and one of the older versions):

Star_Raiders_1a.jpg

b) And this is the manual, which looks like a typical XE / XEGS manual, but for an Atari XE Video Game Cassette, so they added an extra single sheet named Atari Star Raiders Cartridge Instructions:

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c) And as if all this was not enough, XL-style cart, XE-style manual, here comes the package, in the style of old Atari 400/800 packages, but in A5 size (original Star Raiders package was almost A4 size):

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I had several of these Star Raiders carts and most of them did not work or locked up at some point, because the cart had only one ROM chip with 4k on the pcb. Luckily this cart/pcb above has two chips with 4k each, so the full 8k Star Raiders seems to be there (have played it until now, without any problems or lockups)...

-Andreas Koch.

P.S.: Some of my Atari friends also have E.T. and Missile Command on XL-style carts (brown cart with silver-label). But these silver-label carts seem to be kinda "rare", since I have not seen them anywhere else, nor have I been able to buy these two games on cart with silver-labels for the last 10-20 years (on ebay I always find these carts with the old black or brown labels)...

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Posted Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:46 AM

Thanks, I updated the crappy scan I had with the one you posted. See if you can get your friends to scan them :)

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:23 AM

Updated the list and added photos / scans of most of the variations.

How can you tell if a label was applied via a 3rd party? The 3dTTT one was by best electronics IIRC, and I noted it in the list.

Pretty please go through your collection and check if you have anything not in the list, and if you have better pictures or scans of what's on the site, please post them to this forum.

I assume this basic cartridge is a 3rd party label:
basic-e.jpg

I want to try and have as complete a list as possible, but I don't think that cart was made by atari. It looks like a brown roklan cart.

It is a real Atari cart & label.

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:47 AM

shit if that basic cart is a legit atari release, then I have a few others for the list. I hope you're not talking about the 3D-TTT from best electronics...

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:52 AM

you know... it would be nice to have scans of all these, instead of eBay pics and random photos from around the web. I'm working on EPYX right now, and let me tell you, there are many variations.

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:04 AM


Updated the list and added photos / scans of most of the variations.

How can you tell if a label was applied via a 3rd party? The 3dTTT one was by best electronics IIRC, and I noted it in the list.

Pretty please go through your collection and check if you have anything not in the list, and if you have better pictures or scans of what's on the site, please post them to this forum.

I assume this basic cartridge is a 3rd party label:
basic-e.jpg

I want to try and have as complete a list as possible, but I don't think that cart was made by atari. It looks like a brown roklan cart.

It is a real Atari cart & label.


Be careful what you call "real". The distributors have labels also. Those brown carts cannot be from Atari production. And I received a silver labeled cart from Best or B&C where when asked they said they put the labels on, and have been doing so for years. They called them "from Atari" but they were just made, not production. I returned the cart for an "orginal Atari version". Just because you can make a cart and a label, then years later that is forgotten, doesn't make them production. Someone years ago was putting chips in brown carts and making labels, I've seen about a dozen different manufactures and titles. And recycled Atari cases with "different" labels put on them. There is a roll of that silver label tape out there still.

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:19 AM

I have an Atari "Assembler Editor" Cartridge and an Atari "Editor Assembler" cartridge. Not sure why it's reversed?

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM

Do you have pic's to show us?

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:02 PM

Anyone know if this is official Atari, or did best put these on there?

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:18 PM

Anyone know if this is official Atari, or did best put these on there?

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Looks like the real label or a very good copy :) I looks just like mine.
It also came in Atari brown. I use this website for cart images, though it doesn't represent all variations:
http://www.pitfalljo...om/0800-med.htm

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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:21 PM

I have an Atari "Assembler Editor" Cartridge and an Atari "Editor Assembler" cartridge. Not sure why it's reversed?


I would still love to see the two carts you mention here, I've never seen the latter.

Edited by chrislynn5, Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:21 PM.


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Posted Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:24 PM

Most of the a) variants came from pitfalljones.com :)




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