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#1 santosp OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:26 PM

Hello to all. :)
Can someone knows if the super SALT diagnostic cartridge work both for XL - XE machines?
Also some link for schematics and rom contents?

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:39 PM

Super SALT works for all A8 computers -- 400, 800, XL, XE. :)

Edited to add: the extended test unit also works with them all.

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:51 PM

Thank you Ransom. But, schematics about them? As for extended test unit, you mean the Diagnostic Assemnbly PBI unit?

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:02 PM

I think the technical term for it is "the doohickie in the 850 case." :)

Schematics about what? You lost me there.

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:13 PM

"the doohickie in the 850 case".. Ah Ok I know this device.
I am search about the schematics diagrams of the super SALT cartridge, or some pictures of pcb, from someone which is in the possession of.

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:21 PM

Ah. Well, I have a super SALT cartridge, but no schematics diagrams, sorry. :(

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:07 PM

Ransom, could you consider imaging the SuperSALT's ROM? The currently available ROM image was recreated from a hacked file version, and it differs from the original.

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:20 PM

Sorry, I don't have the equipment for that.

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:22 PM

A very well article is in above link. But need skills. :(

http://sites.google....aripal/cartdump

Edited by santosp, Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:49 PM.


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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:00 PM

More importantly, you need time. Which I don't have. :(

Maybe some day though.

Or someone else who has the time and materials can buy one from BEST Electronics and dump it.

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:22 PM

Indeed, one such utility was posted here on the forums. Works OK under the emulator.

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:00 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:58 PM

I actually have that Cartridge from many years ago.

400/800 Salt Diagnostic Cartridge Rev. 2.05

Anyways it in the original Atari Cartridge case. I was told this is a very Rare and hard Cartridge to find. since this is an Original one/

Thanks
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Posted Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:22 PM

Folks:

It seems that this topic re-surfaces from time-to-time, and the need for a fresh/original dump is still there.

I do have this cartridge, and it is already imaged @ 16K, as it is part of my main 8Mbit flash-cart.

I am honestly a bit reluctant to post it, but if I sense enough critical mass (e.g. +10 clicks on "like this"), I will post the pristine image/dump for your evaluation / review. If not, I will simply assume that it has little or no real interest, and let it rest.

Cheers,

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:59 AM

These are ROM dumps of my original cart, version 2.05

sloopy.

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:15 AM

Bribery to score rep points... PMSL.

+1 to sloopy for taking the couple of minutes worth of effort to upload without being asked.

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:22 AM

Folks:

It seems that this topic re-surfaces from time-to-time, and the need for a fresh/original dump is still there.

I do have this cartridge, and it is already imaged @ 16K, as it is part of my main 8Mbit flash-cart.

I am honestly a bit reluctant to post it, but if I sense enough critical mass (e.g. +10 clicks on "like this"), I will post the pristine image/dump for your evaluation / review. If not, I will simply assume that it has little or no real interest, and let it rest.

Cheers,

F.

How did you get a 16k rom installed into a 8k rom only device????

Attached File  mycollectionSALT.zip   43.47KB   328 downloads

Edited by rdea6, Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:16 AM.


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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:40 AM

That dump from sloopy isn't right. It looks as if it started and ended several hundred bytes too early - has bits of text where the cartridge vectors should be.

Here's the one I've had for a while, no idea if it's doctored in any way.

Attached File  SALT 2.05.zip   5.48KB   263 downloads

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:51 AM

Thanks guys. To be precise I only meant the CPS SuperSALT cartridge - dumps of other ones are known. If Ransom owns another version (such as SuperSALT SE.02) then please ignore me.

I am honestly a bit reluctant to post it, but if I sense enough critical mass (e.g. +10 clicks on "like this"), I will post the pristine image/dump for your evaluation / review.


"Ask and ye shall receive". Nice attention-whoring, I must admit.

Edited by Kr0tki, Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:51 AM.


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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:28 AM

I think the technical term for it is "the doohickie in the 850 case." :)


Is the the particular doohickie you have in mind????





James

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:01 AM

That dump from sloopy isn't right. It looks as if it started and ended several hundred bytes too early - has bits of text where the cartridge vectors should be.

Here's the one I've had for a while, no idea if it's doctored in any way.

Attached File  SALT 2.05.zip   5.48KB   263 downloads


I went and dumped my cart again, and compared the files, the bytes at begin/end look the same, but the MD5 sum's were diff... so I dunno what happened... my cart still works so, who knows... also, my redump md5 is also diff from your bin attached...

sloopy.

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:00 AM

Thanks guys. To be precise I only meant the CPS SuperSALT cartridge - dumps of other ones are known. If Ransom owns another version (such as SuperSALT SE.02) then please ignore me.

I am honestly a bit reluctant to post it, but if I sense enough critical mass (e.g. +10 clicks on "like this"), I will post the pristine image/dump for your evaluation / review.


"Ask and ye shall receive". Nice attention-whoring, I must admit.

Hey Kr0tki did you check the Salt rom's in my attachment I think that SaltSE.02 is in it. Don't know if it the file one ...

good luck...

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:10 AM

"Ask and ye shall receive". Nice attention-whoring, I must admit.


You bet.

The difference is that I SPENT MY CASH to get the real-McCoy, instead of coming here and asking here for a free, undisturbed dump of the material from someone else...

The good news is that the self-appointed Mall-Cops have already jumped in and effectively spared me for doing so... :-D

For those who clicked: I will consider sending you my dump, once I come back from my business trip, Friday night, or Sat. Morning. (I am now traveling outside of the U.S.).
For the rest: my sincere advice is that, instead of being dirt-CHEAP, just GO BUY YOUR OWN CART, at Best Electronics. You will feel better.

F.

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:13 AM

Thanks guys. To be precise I only meant the CPS SuperSALT cartridge - dumps of other ones are known. If Ransom owns another version (such as SuperSALT SE.02) then please ignore me.


Hmm. I have SuperSALT, but I don't know off hand which version. I recently bought it from BEST Electronics. If you're looking for an exotic version, I probably don't have it. :)


Is the the particular doohickie you have in mind????


That looks like it's the one! I have one in an 850 case (again, bought from BEST recently). It's wonderful to be able to definitively test all my A8 computers finally...

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Posted Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:48 AM

Thanks the sloopy for the effort, regardless of the result. :) :thumbsup:
Also you guys rdea6, Rybags, Ransom and also the sup8pdct for the pics! As I see the external device have a switch to select Atari 400 or 800 for check. For the newest one it work?
Also the super SALT latest version I believe cause must be 16K and no 8.

Ooohh something last. Before you run to Best to buy one, can you tell me your opinion about making some of that? I mean a full version with plastic enclosures. Also what would be a normal selling price?

Edited by santosp, Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:08 AM.





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