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Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:20 AM
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Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:47 AM
I notice you keep using the word "irrelevant" every time I bag you making things up to justify your opinion. LOL.
Demonstrating when someone is flat-out lying is always relevant. It points to motive.
I like the Coleco Gemini design better. I detailed why I like the differences. I'm sorry you're taking my opinions of a 30 year old hunk of plastic and cheap electronics so personally. You really don't have to embellish so much.
Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:55 AM
Edited by Reaperman, Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:57 AM.
Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:00 PM
Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:21 PM
Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:30 PM
I prefer the Darth Vader in terms of color scheme, and the 2600jr in terms of overall design. If you disagree, then clearly your feet smell like stale pop-tarts and your parents are proof that cousins shouldn't marry.
Posted Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:04 PM
Posted Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:32 AM
I just got some Gemini controllers, and I think they are really cool and work great. The only issue I had is that the fire button does not start the bombs dropping in Kaboom!, when plugged into ColecoVision expansion module #1 pushing the joystick to the right does. There must be a small incompatibility with the Gemini controllers and ColecoVision expansion module #1
Posted Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:40 AM
The system does not know anything of the kind. The wiring for the second paddle (of a 2-paddle pair) does not interfere with the wiring of the stick. However, the paddle triggers are the same as the left and right directions of the stick. To make the 2 hybrid controllers act properly as a pair of paddles, a special Y-cable was shipped with the Gemini system.
Back to my wondering, if I had one of these plugged into a regular VCS, could I play Combat, then switch right to breakout and the system would know which part of the controller to use? or are they made specifically for the Gemini?
Posted Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:51 PM
Posted Sun Feb 1, 2015 7:01 AM
The Gemini controllers were a true work of design genius! They opted for the least amount of internal parts to have to replace. The paddles were (from what I've read) meant to work with a Y connecter, but will usually work with paddle games without it. Kaboom will start with a toggle of the top stick, whereas Jedi Arena will not work. All Atari sticks and paddles will work (on the Gemini), though, BUT, will all games work? I have problems with Keystone Kapers, for instance! The enemy will disappear and reappear and the screen will flicker occasionally!! All other games that I've played work great and have excellent color and clarity! Back to the controllers, though..
The stick and paddles contact the same pcb that has no chips, resistors, capacitors or the like (same as Atari sticks)! However, there are no pots for the paddle! It slides along a circular contact ring with stoppers!! There is a metal tension rod for the button and everything works with these little feather-like brush feelers that touch the pcb!! You may get a bit of a workout with the button, but I found that playing left or right handed works equally well (although I switch wires on my 2600 sticks to have the button on the right on some, and make my own arcade joysticks for use on Atari etc. as nothing beats a true arcade joystick and buttons for these games!!)!! These controllers have very few parts and a quick cleaning of the paddle ring can bring them back to perfection, unlike the greasy mess that is the atari paddle fix. A stick, a wheel, a button, a board, some six metal 'feelers', screws, and a top and bottom housing! Thats IT!! I really love how smoothly the stick controls, and beats the harder, cheaper versions of the atari sticks hands down!!
Edited by Papa, Sun Feb 1, 2015 7:30 AM.
Posted Tue Feb 3, 2015 7:17 AM
2600 hands down IMHO, but from a collectors POV both.
I own both of them but honestly only display them, for 2600 games I play them on my 7800.
Posted Tue Feb 3, 2015 7:02 PM
Since it's been resurrected, I'd also vote for the Gemini. We all love the Atari but to be fair the woodgrain one is too common. It's overdone. I'd get a Jr or Gemini if I didn't already have something better.
Posted Wed Feb 4, 2015 7:36 AM
Posted Wed Feb 4, 2015 7:28 PM
Wasn't the Gemini built with easy to find parts from other common electronics items? That's what cost Atari the lawsuit against clone makers anyway. I'd think fixing a Gemini would then be easier that a real Atari. I'm no expert however.
Posted Wed Feb 4, 2015 8:08 PM
Posted Thu Feb 5, 2015 7:42 PM
I'm pretty sure the Gemini has the same color pallete as the fat sixer!! I'll compare when I get done fixing up my Fatty and then match it up to the four switcher, etc..
Posted Thu Feb 5, 2015 8:32 PM
I've seen photos here on AA where some guy actually cut off the portion with the faux wood grain and replaced it with a piece of real, polished wood. It looked awesome!
In fact, I wish they had used real wood on the face.
Edited by ls650, Thu Feb 5, 2015 8:34 PM.
Posted Sun Feb 8, 2015 7:48 PM
That gave him a woody!!
Posted Sun Feb 8, 2015 8:55 PM
Oh, look, it's this thread back from the dead. Might as well chime in. On looks alone, I say the Gemini wins. I never had one though so I can't see for myself what the fuss is with the controllers.
Posted Mon Feb 9, 2015 11:12 AM
I like the Gemini controllers a lot. The paddles usually need a good cleaning, though, and the fact the console only has two controller jacks (forcing you to use Y-cables for multiplayer paddle games) is a little unfortunate.
I find the console pretty cheaply made. Cool-looking, but cheap. All the jacks on mine need to be hot glued in place (they're kinda loose and flaky) and resoldered. Otherwise it works well enough. The RF quality is pretty good, if not great.
The Sears Video Arcade II is the better "combo controller" system, although I think the Gemini's controllers are better than the VAII's.
Posted Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:17 PM
Edited by coleconut, Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:19 PM.
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