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#1 Enig OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:20 PM

I've wondered, why is it that there seems to be no port of Tetris for the Atari 7800 yet?

I mean, even the 2600 has had a ton of them of varying quality, yet nobody has thought to do it on the more powerful and graphically capable 7800. Personally, I'd enjoy seeing that happen someday, as the 7800 is one of my little gaming-related obsessions.

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Posted Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:30 PM

I have plans to do one myself, when I can find the time, but it will be much more than a plain-vanilla implementation of classic Tetris, which is where most homebrew efforts seem to stop.

There have been many different variations of Tetris, each with their own unique options and characteristics, and I think it would be nice to have a "non-trademark-infringing falling puzzle game" which combines and parameterizes these options so that players can pick and choose the (mutually exclusive) ones that they want; to "roll their own Tetris", in other words. I'm also very interested in integrating some of the more recent developments of Tetris, especially from the Tetris the Grand Master series; I've been playing TGM2+ a lot recently for "research". ;)

It will be some time before I begin working on it, though. While I am waiting for the 7800XM and some other 7800 development tools, I'll probably make a Mattel Aquarius version first, since I've been tinkering with the Aquarius recently.

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Posted Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:47 PM

Well, the *other* Atari did Tengen Tetris on the NES and in arcades... xD

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 5:06 AM

I have plans to do one myself, when I can find the time, but it will be much more than a plain-vanilla implementation of classic Tetris, which is where most homebrew efforts seem to stop.

There have been many different variations of Tetris, each with their own unique options and characteristics, and I think it would be nice to have a "non-trademark-infringing falling puzzle game" which combines and parameterizes these options so that players can pick and choose the (mutually exclusive) ones that they want; to "roll their own Tetris", in other words. I'm also very interested in integrating some of the more recent developments of Tetris, especially from the Tetris the Grand Master series; I've been playing TGM2+ a lot recently for "research". ;)

It will be some time before I begin working on it, though. While I am waiting for the 7800XM and some other 7800 development tools, I'll probably make a Mattel Aquarius version first, since I've been tinkering with the Aquarius recently.

Sounds similar to Pac-Man Collection but for falling puzzle piece games.

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:04 AM

The more interesting, to me, clones/mods are (EGA) Netris (not to be confused with the Linux one, it has guns and bombs), Bloxeed (similar to the former, made by Sega and crediting the Russian devs), and Pentix (in DOS Navigator).

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:36 AM

I've always wondered this too. Even though it's been done and cloned a trillion times (Anyone remember Tetrix and ATris on a the A8), I'd still love to see a good version on the 7800 with some nice artwork in the background and good brick designs vs. the 'flat bricks on black screen' you often see.

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 7:50 AM

PacManPlus did Tetris a few years back. I have a copy. What, did you losers miss out?
































j/k April Fools :)

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:07 AM

After all someone created a version of Tetris on the 2600, sure on the 7800 is more than possible.

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:36 AM

This would definitely be cool to have for the 7800. Jaybird, let us know if you do get to make it. :)

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 10:43 AM

Tubes (http://www.atariage....post__p__908123) is veryTetris-like. While never completed, it is definitely playable.

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 10:53 AM

Tubes (http://www.atariage....post__p__908123) is veryTetris-like. While never completed, it is definitely playable.


Right, Tubes is cool, but still no Tetris. Admittedly it's in hi-res, but a version of Tetris should use more of the color displaying capabilities that the 7800 has to offer. Also, Tubes is just a beta, really, and the author doesn't have any intention of finishing it -- Notice that it's a very quiet game to play. :) The 7800 should be capable of doing a very nice version of Tetris.

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Posted Sun Apr 1, 2012 11:01 AM

Even though it's been done and cloned a trillion times (Anyone remember Tetrix and ATris on a the A8)...


In spite of that, the A8 still doesn't have a solid version of Tetris. I've never seen one that actually had good playability. It's one thing to look like Tetris, it's another thing to have one that looks right and plays right. To play right it has to have good mechanics and the sound effects have to be closely tied in to the movement of the pieces. I have graphics and ideas for one that I'd like to do on the A8. To me the NES versions are good models in terms of gameplay and music and this is the mark that I plan to aim for.

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Posted Sun Apr 8, 2012 4:20 AM

If someone made this, I'd probably buy it I guess. But I mean, we already have Klax and that's more puzzle games than I really need. Puzzle games, especially the falling brick variety, are probably my least favorite genre.

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Posted Sun Apr 8, 2012 3:34 PM

Is Klax available anywhere on a cart? I really like that game.

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Posted Sun Apr 8, 2012 5:38 PM

Is Klax available anywhere on a cart? I really like that game.

I've been away too long. I forget everyone's names, so I don't remember who here sold it to me. Someone on the boards here did one up for me anyway.

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Posted Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:29 PM

atari tris on the 5200 is quite good,
but the 7800 can handle a perfect nes conversion imho

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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 PM

except some good music and sounds :grin:

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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:46 PM

I'd like to see the arcade version of Tetris on the 7800

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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:05 PM

except some good music and sounds :grin:

Good sound shouldn't be a problem because the 7800 XM has Pokey and Ym2651 sound chips built. The 7800 XM is able to detect games if they use Pokey, or YM2151 sound.

Edited by 8th lutz, Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:06 PM.


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Posted Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:09 PM

but who knows when that will actually be available. i have a spare ballblazer cart :grin:

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Posted Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:03 PM

I'd like to see the arcade version of Tetris on the 7800



Ditto.

The Atari Games Corporation's version of Tetris is my favorite of all time. Most people know it as "Tengen's Tetris" but it was the same plus Tengen was just the Atari Games Corporation under a different name.

The port should be doable. I noticed playing the game in MAME that the CPU for the arcade is a 6502 and the sound chip is a POKEY. [although it may be 2 of them].

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Posted Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:04 PM

Tengen (lit. "heavens") was the trade name Atari used to publish games not released on its own systems, much like AtariSoft had served the same purpose pre-1984.

 

Anyway, had Atari negotiated with the Russians the right way over rights to this game, there would have been a chance it could have been released on its 7800 system. But Nintendo won the court battle, so we never got to hear stuff like "Loginska" (named for programmer Ed Logg) and "Bradinsky" (named for score composer Brad Fuller) on the 7800's sound system. Therefore, I am all for a 7800 Tetris.

 

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Edited by ColecoFan1981, Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:25 PM.


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Posted Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:36 PM

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#24 Lynxpro OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:16 AM

Tengen (lit. "heavens") was the trade name Atari used to publish games not released on its own systems, much like AtariSoft had served the same purpose pre-1984.

 

Anyway, had Atari negotiated with the Russians the right way over rights to this game, there would have been a chance it could have been released on its 7800 system. But Nintendo won the court battle, so we never got to hear stuff like "Loginska" (named for programmer Ed Logg) and "Bradinsky" (named for score composer Brad Fuller) on the 7800's sound system. Therefore, I am all for a 7800 Tetris.

 

~Ben

 

Partially correct. Tengen was the Atari Games Corp's house brand for consumer video game releases. They couldn't use the "Atari" name due to Tramiel's Atari Corp owning the rights to the name in the consumer market for video games and computers. Atari Games could only use the "Atari" brand in the arcades. That was due to Atari Inc collapsing and Warner selling it in pieces beginning in July 1984. Atari Games was the former coin-op division [aka "Atari Coin"] of Atari Inc…and technically speaking, the "original" Atari.

 

Warner sold Atari Games to Namco, then Warner got it back, then merged it into their other interactive divisions to create "Time Warner Interactive", then abandoned that name and sold it as "Atari Games" to Midway in 1996, then Midway renamed it as "Midway Games West" shortly thereafter, then closed it in circa 2002, then Midway went bankrupt in 2008 (?) or so and Warner bought up the intellectual property and all of it is part of Warner Bros Interactive today.







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