Jump to content

Photo

Atari's Plato Cartridge question


425 replies to this topic

#51 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 8:38 PM

The Atari term types you listed it returned are the original types I though, should not be Mac.... Also Plato changed the screen color back in the day, that's not happening here. I have got to believe Mass has the original term for the server.



#52 David_P OFFLINE  

David_P

    Dragonstomper

  • 878 posts
  • Location:Canada

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 8:48 PM

Hmm... MIO + LANTRONIX should give an R: device... looks like I'll have to burn an image onto an Atarimax cart...



#53 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:14 PM

Make sure to use the latest version of Altirra, he's fixed up the 850 emulation a bit more.



#54 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:15 PM

Hmm... MIO + LANTRONIX should give an R: device... looks like I'll have to burn an image onto an Atarimax cart...

If you wan't to get on like I do, I think you're going to need and EDS version of the Lantronix....

but it won't hurt to try.... I think some of the units do encryption even though it's not advertised, If I remember correctly


Edited by _The Doctor__, Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:17 PM.


#55 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:19 PM

 

(pasted from my facebook)

Over the last day, I got to help resurrect a long lost piece of Atari software, connect it to the internet, and use it.

 
PLATO was an online service that operated from 1960 until 2006, and provided cutting edge ideas into the context of creating educational hardware and software for primary, secondary, and university learning environments.
 
In 1981, Atari had partnered with PLATO to produce a cartridge that would allow an Atari computer to connect to PLATO to use its lessons (software).
 
I and a few others have successfully used this cartridge to connect to the one remaining PLATO installation, and use its services, and I just recorded a video demonstrating it (27 mins):

 

Very nice I'm glad your taking the time to make videos and chronicle this. I certainly don't have the energy needed to do it. From the bottom of my heart appreciation for jumping in to this. The background colors used to change. The only changes that were to be were foreground, foreground and background swap and intensity though I am not sure if all that is in there. What a nice journey to continue on!


Edited by _The Doctor__, Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:53 PM.


#56 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:46 PM

@The Doctor: You can also use a Raspberry Pi, with a USB serial cable hooked to the serial port of an 850 or P:R: connection. You then run tcpser on the Pi to set up the bridge.

 

-Thom


Edited by tschak909, Sun Feb 4, 2018 9:47 PM.


#57 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 10:06 PM

I've got a lantronix eds, the like I do isn't for want, it's literally like I do. I'm getting a new login. But haven't heard back... it's the weekend :). Changed name and all that.


Edited by _The Doctor__, Sun Feb 4, 2018 10:09 PM.


#58 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 11:27 PM

I'm surprised no one has connected their touch pads to the Atari, you'll find it should work, this was a distinct feature of the Atari version. 48k or more for all of it to work, 16k to barely get by... yep it's scale-able in what it can do, based on memory.


Edited by _The Doctor__, Sun Feb 4, 2018 11:30 PM.


#59 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Sun Feb 4, 2018 11:33 PM

Looks like they've already decided to start hacking on the cart:

 

pr10.PNG

 

-Thom

 

 



#60 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:01 AM

Please let them also know the touch screen worked on the Atari so they can check on that as well, and if you didn't have a touch screen you used the touch pad and that worked in place of it.

I'm not able to get at my Atari for a bit. I'm still surprised they haven't simply found the Atari stuff, it's got to be there. Our terminal was as close to the real deal as possible save the resolution, and even that was pretty d*rn sharp at the time!


Edited by _The Doctor__, Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:05 AM.


#61 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:35 AM

Playing a quick game of Battleship.

 

pr11.png

 

-Thom



#62 jmccorm OFFLINE  

jmccorm

    Moonsweeper

  • 346 posts

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:55 AM

Any light pen support?

#63 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 1:27 AM

@The Doctor - Actually touch support is handled entirely by the joystick and a cursor, as demonstrated here in a game of Concentration:

 

plato_touch_support.gif

 

-Thom

 

Click on the image to play.


Edited by tschak909, Mon Feb 5, 2018 1:27 AM.


#64 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 1:31 AM

I could be wrong, the touch screen could have been yanked out for joystick control... I'm foggy on this



#65 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 1:32 AM

Who the hell are you, anyway? ;) You have a bit too much first hand knowledge.

 

-Thom



#66 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 2:07 AM

Just enough knowledge is still reachable to frustrate myself, hopefully it's enough to move others to uncover some more of the good stuff that exists.

I can't wait for the rest of the AtariAge gang to get on PLATO.

A nice online multi player adventure or empire awaits. Wishing to be of more help. My joy at the moment is watching the updates and seeing it unfold. I liked watching the joystick control the game. I literally smiled watching it cross the screen. Another happy day!

 

Hey, dust off all those cartridge solutions put a PLATO or Learning Phone Image on it... Come join the fun and be a part of history as PLATO rises once more!


Edited by _The Doctor__, Mon Feb 5, 2018 2:29 AM.


#67 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 2:24 AM

everybody probably already has the guide but here it is anyway

Attached File  AtariTheLearningPhone.pdf   7.3MB   37 downloads

 

I just did a search and figured it would help get more people going, making it convenient.

Now I'm going to read it.

*edit*

wow now that's quite a guide.

Glad I read but I think I better print it out and keep it handy...

This calls for a keyboard surround hint sheet.


Edited by _The Doctor__, Mon Feb 5, 2018 3:19 AM.


#68 gozar OFFLINE  

gozar

    Dragonstomper

  • 868 posts
  • Location:Ohio

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 10:07 AM

That is impressive. Thanks for sharing!



#69 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 10:36 AM

while it's not an official release, the 850 interface has been improved in Altirra, Many other things are improved or fixed as well. I'd grab it and come back to here.

http://atariage.com/...ased/?p=3953616

it may improve those using the emulators experience.

 

Everybody else should carry on enjoying what they've got working... cause it's quite nice.



#70 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 11:51 AM

So, I sent a note to the request notesfile on cyber1 asking for the creation of an atari 8-bit notes file.

 

Got an email notification, so I logged on and I see that I haz PERSONAL NOTES!

 

pr12.png

 

Opened up, and I see:

 

pr13.PNG

 

and an extra surprise for all of us:

 

pr14.png

 

*happies* ;)

 

-Thom



#71 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:05 PM

pr15.PNG

 

pr16.PNG

 

pr17.PNG

 

-Thom



#72 jmccorm OFFLINE  

jmccorm

    Moonsweeper

  • 346 posts

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:12 PM

Converting the cart to a binary might be worthwhile to us SIO2SD and SIO2PC users.

#73 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:20 PM

Should be easy enough, it's a standard 8K cart, which just about any cart dump to binary load file program should be able to do...failing that, just plopping a binary header on it should suffice, as there is no copy protection that I can see.

 

-Thom



#74 tschak909 OFFLINE  

tschak909

    River Patroller

  • 2,317 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:38 PM

Here is the Atari terminal displaying the Atarian notes file:

 

giphy.gif

 

-Thom



#75 _The Doctor__ OFFLINE  

_The Doctor__

    River Patroller

  • 3,958 posts
  • Location:10-0-11-00:02

Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:44 PM

Took a while before you started doing stuff I thought it was a bad upload or gif, so I was ready to let you know then it started to display etc..  gif loop... :)

You realize that these carts are going to suddenly appear on those evil pay auction sites one at a time for like 55-60 bucks piece now...

I'd suggest trying to work a deal for less in pm's

 

I'd use a tiny bootloader with it if going the file route until it's all sorted out.


Edited by _The Doctor__, Mon Feb 5, 2018 1:00 PM.





0 user(s) are browsing this forum

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users