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Oh, I can also recommend Masters Of Doom. You'll love it.
And also The Soul Of A New Machine. Quite possibly the best book about computers you will ever read. It's a fly-on-the-wall account of designing the Data General Nova 32 bit mini computer, which had to be software compatible with its 16 bit older brother. Absolutely un-put-downable. Utterly brilliant.
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Posted Tue May 1, 2012 5:47 PM
@ Retro Rogue. It sounds like you're emotionally attached to the idea that Jack Tramiel was a good, upstanding guy.
I have to remain skeptical of the information in your post, as all the video game histories I read have presented the timeline of events the way I reiterated it in the post.
Especially about the 7800. Certainly they could be wrong, popular histories that often repeat myths. And your information sounds specific and detailed, which tends to support the idea it could be true. I just don't see proof to be sure yet
One thing that seems to conflict,
is that I already have it from the horse's mouth at Federated Electronics that he fired everyone on the spot, brutally took away their life's pensions, and cause the downfall of the company. He even said he ruined people's lives, and he was there, saw it happen, and was affected by it personally.
The popular histories seem to point out that this was his m.o. with every company he bought, including Atari.
So, if he did this to one company for sure, Federated, why would people tend to believe this is the only single company to go down this way and not a planned systematic pattern?
Posted Sun May 20, 2012 1:39 PM
I'm sorry, but they do not. What published book, interview, etc. states Jack passed on the NES?
As I stated, the information I presented comes from the direct sources, or "horses mouth" as you like to put it. Direct interviews with the people involved at Atari Inc., Warner Communications, GCC, and Atari Corporation. Including with Mike Katz, the man responsible for re-launching the 7800 as part of the new Entertainment Electronics division in 1985. Likewise engineering logs, internal emails, materials, legal documents, financial documents, etc., etc.
Where? I don't recall discussing Federated in my previous post.
Once again, it seems you're getting even the hearsay wrong. As you clearly stated above and previously, he was accused of running Federated in to the ground *after* he already owned it. Completely different scenario.
Same with Atari. A) He didn't buy Atari, he bought a division, the Consumer Division. That was then rolled in to Tramel Technology Ltd. which itself was renamed Atari Corporation.
Edited by orion1052003, Sun May 20, 2012 1:52 PM.
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Posted Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:59 PM
Ok, this is one article about Jack that doesn't make him look too good. Here I'm showing that there are articles out there like this one. I'm sure Retrorogue's sources and research is far superior to a magazine like this based on what he said. So if these articles are wrong, it just serves to show that wrong information can be perpetuated. From what I heard, it made me not like the man. However, what I hear could be wrong, or right, and he was a human being. I will try to find other popular type of articles or book excerpts if i can find them when I have time.
Posted Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:03 AM
Posted Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:34 AM
Areed with O.S.R.G. above.
Plus, what does a magazine article prove? Can anyone prove it's not biased? The tone of that piece is that of a frustrated child, looking for someone to blame because they're in love with the 7800 and it didn't "win."
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Posted Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:57 PM
There's a newer edition of the Commodore book - "Commodore - a company on the edge" that's new for only $18. I bought this on Mark's recommendation and yes, it's a gret book.
Another great read is "Inside Intel" by Tim Jackson. Charts the history of Intel from the very beginning.
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