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#1 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 12:40 PM

Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
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can a better version even be done?

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 12:49 PM

An average version of 1942 was done on C64, so yes of course the 5200 can do a better version (A8 actually too)

#3 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 12:55 PM

i actually like the c64 version

though i'm not sure if the A8 is as capable moving that many sprites

at least by looking at screaming wings and its fake looking big sprite planes

Edited by fernando marrin, Sat May 12, 2012 1:06 PM.


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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 1:28 PM

Dreadnaught Factor runs very smoothly, although it scrolls vertically very slowly.

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 1:48 PM

Dreadnaught Factor runs very smoothly, although it scrolls vertically very slowly.

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but Dreadnaught Factor does not have lots of sprites moving,
nor big airplanes rotating

will check screaming wings
on the amiga to see if the guys that made it were just lazy or limited by hardware...

Edited by fernando marrin, Sat May 12, 2012 1:53 PM.


#6 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 2:01 PM

checked Screaming Wings Amiga version
on the real thing

nothing to do with 1942
uses modern planes,

looks more like raiden


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so i guess we'll never know...

Edited by fernando marrin, Sat May 12, 2012 2:01 PM.


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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 3:15 PM

When it comes to vertical shooters, could 5200 pull off something like Zanac or Xevious even? I wonder if the limitations to number of moving items on screen at one time would be the limiting factor, especially for Zanac.

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 5:40 PM

Xevious is actually quite good on all classic systems,
including the 5200

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 10:35 PM

Xevious is a good example. It could be done, but you're probably talking about taking out a lot of the sprites the original had. And the speed too.

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Posted Sat May 12, 2012 11:31 PM

Xevious is a good example. It could be done, but you're probably talking about taking out a lot of the sprites the original had. And the speed too.


Have you tried the 5200 Xevious proto? It's seems to be a complete finished game even though it was never released.

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Posted Sun May 13, 2012 11:33 AM

Have you tried the 5200 Xevious proto? It's seems to be a complete finished game even though it was never released.

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Yes, no question it's excellently done, for the 5200. I meant 1942 could be done like Xevious was, but you'd lose a lot of sprites and speed of the game.

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Posted Sun May 13, 2012 9:15 PM

Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
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can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!

#13 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon May 14, 2012 5:25 AM


Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
Posted Image

can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!


Indeed it did back in the day!

Love the colecovision too though,
though the 5200/A8 is my fav console ever

Edited by fernando marrin, Mon May 14, 2012 5:59 AM.


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Posted Mon May 14, 2012 7:05 AM


Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
Posted Image

can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!


5200 XM? Where?

#15 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon May 14, 2012 2:48 PM



Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
Posted Image

can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!


5200 XM? Where?



There's no 5200 XM

Jinks was just trying his best to be funny,
of course all he did was confuse people,

sorry

Edited by fernando marrin, Mon May 14, 2012 2:50 PM.


#16 Jinks OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon May 14, 2012 5:03 PM




Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
Posted Image

can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!


5200 XM? Where?



There's no 5200 XM

Jinks was just trying his best to be funny,
of course all he did was confuse people,

sorry

confuse? And thank you. just jabbing back ftom the 78 side..

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Posted Mon May 14, 2012 5:03 PM




Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
Posted Image

can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!


5200 XM? Where?



There's no 5200 XM

Jinks was just trying his best to be funny,
of course all he did was confuse people,

sorry

confuse? And thank you. just jabbing back from the 78 side..

#18 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon May 14, 2012 5:09 PM





Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
Posted Image

can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!


5200 XM? Where?



There's no 5200 XM

Jinks was just trying his best to be funny,
of course all he did was confuse people,

sorry

confuse? And thank you. just jabbing back from the 78 side..



your welcome.
i know , your sarcasm was just so clever!

and yes, you confused people ,
because not everyone reads the 7800's forum here,
and may think there's an 5200 XM in the works (oHH wait, maybe there is, you just have to give away 100 bucks to book writer's wannabees and wait like forever to get it)

Edited by fernando marrin, Mon May 14, 2012 5:39 PM.


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Posted Tue May 15, 2012 5:32 PM

Tiger Attack XE is reasonably smooth.
Demos like Ripper, Embex, and FQ...are the only hope for more on-screen sprites.

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Posted Tue May 15, 2012 7:43 PM






Always wondered it the Atari 5200 could render an acceptable version of 1942

even the "similar" game Screaming Wings on the XE is Awful,
Posted Image

can a better version even be done?

no it cant without the xm. no wonder the coleco kicked its ass!!


5200 XM? Where?



There's no 5200 XM

Jinks was just trying his best to be funny,
of course all he did was confuse people,

sorry

confuse? And thank you. just jabbing back from the 78 side..



your welcome.
i know , your sarcasm was just so clever!

and yes, you confused people ,
because not everyone reads the 7800's forum here,
and may think there's an 5200 XM in the works (oHH wait, maybe there is, you just have to give away 100 bucks to book writer's wannabees and wait like forever to get it)

ok I apologise. I dont even own or ever seen a 5200. But i think its cool!! I haven't made shit for anything atari myself so I can not diss peoples work.


#21 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue May 15, 2012 8:51 PM

i own and love the 7800 and CC2

not so much many people on those forums though

Edited by fernando marrin, Tue May 15, 2012 8:52 PM.


#22 fernando marrin OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed May 16, 2012 6:45 AM

Tiger Attack XE is reasonably smooth.
Demos like Ripper, Embex, and FQ...are the only hope for more on-screen sprites.


nice demos,
screamings wings with enemies upgraded with this technology
could very well turn into a good 1942 game for the A8 :-D




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