keoni29 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 That's right: I bought a new old tv which is in fact an old analog television. Our modern lcd tv had no problem displaying the rf signal, but my analog tv has apparently. I really don't know how to get it to work. Please help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 And you've tried what, exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keoni29 Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 I hooked it up to the tv with a rf to coax converter. Tried channel 2 and 3 and all other channels available. Switched the rf switch on the atari etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr SQL Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 keoni29, what is an rf to coax converter? Your television is expecting an rf signal over coax, plug an RCA to coax adaptor into the Atari and connect the coax cable to that; it should show up on channel 2 or 3. Add a few blocks of ferrite (radioshack, they snap onto the coax) if the picture quality is bad but you should be able to see the display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keoni29 Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) keoni29, what is an rf to coax converter? Your television is expecting an rf signal over coax, plug an RCA to coax adaptor into the Atari and connect the coax cable to that; it should show up on channel 2 or 3. Add a few blocks of ferrite (radioshack, they snap onto the coax) if the picture quality is bad but you should be able to see the display. Yes that's it, but it doesn't show up. Edit: On channel 36 I get some response to changes in the signal, but no image. Edited June 1, 2012 by keoni29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataritard Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 1. Did it display a picture and have sound on the lcd tv? (Do you know the Atari is good?) 2. What brand is your new old tv? Have you tried all the channels? (I seem to remember a particular brand tv needing to be on 96 or something, it was Proscan or something like that.) 3. Do you know the tv is good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keoni29 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 1 Yes 2 Aristona (cheap philips brand) 3 Well everything works fine exept for the rf I couldn't get to work since I got the wrong remote, so I cannot scan for channels. I think I'll just mod my atari so it ouptuts composite video. It provides a nicer picture too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TwentySixHundred Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) 1 Yes 2 Aristona (cheap philips brand) 3 Well everything works fine exept for the rf I couldn't get to work since I got the wrong remote, so I cannot scan for channels. I think I'll just mod my atari so it ouptuts composite video. It provides a nicer picture too. Well thats the problem you need to scan the station in order to find the Ataris frequency, buy a universal remote Edited June 2, 2012 by Tony The 2600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keoni29 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 1 Yes 2 Aristona (cheap philips brand) 3 Well everything works fine exept for the rf I couldn't get to work since I got the wrong remote, so I cannot scan for channels. I think I'll just mod my atari so it ouptuts composite video. It provides a nicer picture too. Well thats the problem you need to scan the station in order to find the Ataris frequency, buy a universal remote I have read on the internet that this type of television doesn't work with a lot of universal remotes It's really not that much of a problem for me to mod my atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataritard Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 If you are going to mod your Atari and your tv has a Video or Input button on it then you won't need a remote and you are home free. (If your tv has a Menu button on it then you wouldn't need a remote to do a channel scan.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keoni29 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 I just bought a compatible remote. It has the buttons required to search for channels, so I can now proceed without modding my atari. I might do that in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maiki Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 If you are going to mod your Atari and your tv has a Video or Input button on it then you won't need a remote and you are home free. I have a TV that requires a remote in order to switch to A/V input from RF. And it is a new CRT TV (made 9/2009). And many TVs are like that. So, your "advice" was sort of... confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keoni29 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Hm indeed, but it works now! It displays the picture and plays the sound trough the speaker. I had to turn up the brightness and contrast a bit, but it works just fine for now (I guess I have to buy a signal amplifier or build one myself.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataritard Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I was just making a couple of observations. Sorry they were confusing. So it works on channel 3 and it was a contrast and brightness issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TwentySixHundred Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Hm indeed, but it works now! It displays the picture and plays the sound trough the speaker. I had to turn up the brightness and contrast a bit, but it works just fine for now (I guess I have to buy a signal amplifier or build one myself.) Well good to hear its all sorted out, yeah most CRT TV's will require a scan when any new system is connected via RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keoni29 Posted June 3, 2012 Author Share Posted June 3, 2012 Well... Not really an issue with the contrast/brightness. First nothing but snow appeared on the screen. Now I scanned for channels I put the atari2600 on channel 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonigann Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Well, it's a good thing you did'nt mod the Atari, considering you could barely get things going on a crt TV.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Well... Not really an issue with the contrast/brightness. First nothing but snow appeared on the screen. Now I scanned for channels I put the atari2600 on channel 2 That's because "channel" here refers to the television channel frequencies defined in the TV system used in the country where the console was sold. AFAIK, for TV set sold in US, the channel numbering always matched channels defined in US TV system, so a channel scan wasn't needed when buying a new TV (pressing channel 2 on the remote actually tune the TV on the frequency defined for channel VHF 2). This was not true in Europe, where tipically each "number" on the remote was just a preset that could be programmed to tune any channel. So you must always do a frequency scan to use an equipment which outputs an rf signal on PAL TV; then you can store that frequency on any channel preset on the TV. Atari 2600 PAL-B (sold in continental Europe) used channel VHF 3 or 4 (although on the case was stamped channel 2-3, because they didn't modified the mold), while PAL-I units (for UK and Ireland) used channel UHF 36 and they didn't have a channel select switch. Note that channel frequencies are not the same in different TV system. For example I live in Italy, where system B/G was used (B for VHF and G for UHF). To use a atari 2600 from UK (PAL-I) on my TV I had to tune an inductor inside the console, because channel UHF 36 in system I is different than channel UHF 36 on system G (The main difference in this case is the audio carrier frequency, so I only got the picture without audio before tuning the console). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer4x4 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 AFAIK, for TV set sold in US, the channel numbering always matched channels defined in US TV system, so a channel scan wasn't needed when buying a new TV (pressing channel 2 on the remote actually tune the TV on the frequency defined for channel VHF 2). This was not true in Europe, where tipically each "number" on the remote was just a preset that could be programmed to tune any channel. So you must always do a frequency scan to use an equipment which outputs an rf signal on PAL TV; then you can store that frequency on any channel preset on the TV. That is good info, I never knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackgear Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Hi, @alex79 which inductor you tune? I'm in a similar situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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