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#1 sydric OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:30 AM

Hello! We recently received an Atari SALT (Stand Alone Test) cartridge v2.07 at the Personal Computer Museum.

I've added it to our database here:

http://pcmuseum.ca/d...6&type=Software

The cartridge is in a regular Atari brown casing. Doing some poking around I see that there were several variants of this cartridge, (BEST ones for example) - yet I can't find one with this type of label on it.

Can anyone shed some light on exactly which one we have (and out of curiosity, what it's worth - not that we're selling it, just curious).

Thanks as always for any input!

#2 rdea6 ONLINE  

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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:58 AM

Would you post a picture of the TITLE screen and any ID number on that screen.

Sample PIC:atari000.png

Edited by rdea6, Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:10 AM.


#3 sydric OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:18 AM

OK, I have added a couple of screen shots to the listing

http://pcmuseum.ca/d...6&type=Software

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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:45 AM

Ok, I'll bite, what does NTSB stand for in this context? I highly doubt it's National Transportation Safety Board (unless that's what they called their own board internally as a joke, which I wouldn't put past them).

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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:13 AM

Ok, I'll bite, what does NTSB stand for in this context?


Operating System version: NTSC, Rev. B

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Posted Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:55 AM

Thanks! Learn something every day. :)

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Posted Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 AM

I don't suppose there's a file version of this software, with at least partial functionality?

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Posted Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:05 PM

Here is an old thread!!!

 

I wonder if it is possible to recreate the SALT using a blank cartridge PCB and the appropriate components. Is the circuit available anywhere?



#9 guus.assmann OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:24 AM

Hello,

As far as I know, it's just a cartridge, like any other ordinary one.
So the circuit is identical to that of a game cartridge.

BR/
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Edited by guus.assmann, Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:25 AM.


#10 DrVenkman OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:33 AM

Here is an old thread!!!

 

I wonder if it is possible to recreate the SALT using a blank cartridge PCB and the appropriate components. Is the circuit available anywhere?

 

There's nothing fancy to the ROMs of any of the SALT cartridges I've found; I've put a couple versions on my UNO Cart and used them to test the 1200XL I brought back from the dead last summer.



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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:48 AM

Here is an old thread!!!

 

I wonder if it is possible to recreate the SALT using a blank cartridge PCB and the appropriate components. Is the circuit available anywhere?

 

it is possible with some minimal jiggery-pokery. see the link below

 

https://www.insentri...l/200/A800-2764



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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:42 AM

Excellent! It sound like one could just put the ROM file on to the 'UltimateCart', for instance and then run it like normal?

 

I am quite tempted at having a go at making an dedicated custom cartridge for the job though.

 

 

it is possible with some minimal jiggery-pokery. see the link below

 

https://www.insentri...l/200/A800-2764

 

This looks fairly straightforward then! Just a job of finding an, specifically Atar 800 cartridge and slightly modifying the circuit. Have you done this? If so could you tell me the name of the base cartridge you used?



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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:04 AM

Excellent! It sound like one could just put the ROM file on to the 'UltimateCart', for instance and then run it like normal?

 

I am quite tempted at having a go at making an dedicated custom cartridge for the job though.

 

 

This looks fairly straightforward then! Just a job of finding an, specifically Atar 800 cartridge and slightly modifying the circuit. Have you done this? If so could you tell me the name of the base cartridge you used?

 

i am waiting for delivery of some 2764 EPROMs then i will have a go using a 'brown-case' basic cart.

if successful i will try to make a dedicated super salt cart using a 27128 EPROM as per this guide

 

https://ist.uwaterlo...rs/sockets.html:



#14 DrVenkman OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:08 AM

Excellent! It sound like one could just put the ROM file on to the 'UltimateCart', for instance and then run it like normal?

 

 

Yes, it will show up in the ROM list. After you select it as the cart type, the system will cold boot with the .CAR image you selected and you can run the tests - well, the ones that don't need the test-box dongle connected (for testing the paddle and joystick lines etc).



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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:55 AM

Theres mt salt 2.05 with my 2.07

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#16 MrFish OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:31 AM

Was a dump ever made of v2.07?



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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:25 AM

BEST and B&C also sell 8K and 16K cartridge PCB's that can directly take EPROMs that supposedly fit into the brown shell cartridge cases.



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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:48 AM

Was a dump ever made of v2.07?

+1

Has this cartridge been dumped?



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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:54 AM

+1

Has this cartridge been dumped?

 

I found this disk in my pile, I don't know IF the cart is on there or its just the dumper software but I THINK the cart IS on there....Can't read it with any dos (properly) 000 sectors free..

 

Edit: from looking at the disk with a hex editor I'm now more sure its on there..There's certainly some testing related stuff on the code and ASCII

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Edited by Mclaneinc, Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:57 AM.


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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:22 AM

there was a common  version of 2.05 mis-labelled as 2.07

 

so rumours of it in the wild may be exaggerated


Edited by brenski, Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:33 AM.


#21 Mclaneinc OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:32 AM

Can't be sure but the hexedit shows something like a SALT type item.

 

The disk name is not of my making, I presume its from Jindroush himself...

 

Needs someone who can check it out 100%.....No idea if its mislabelled either, just thought when I did a search on my stuff I'd post what 'looks' like it might be something.. 



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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:49 AM

Remember The Atari service dealer made there own cartridges of salt, 810 test ect. Atari did not send out a cartridge, they sent a disk . You could request a cartridge.



#23 MrFish OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:59 AM

Here's the ROM portion from off the disk. Seems to be working.

 

I did a file compare with 2.05, and it's definitely different from that.

 

Attached File  SALT 2.07.rom   8KB   31 downloads


Edited by MrFish, Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:59 AM.


#24 Mclaneinc OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:20 AM

Thank you MrFish...Well thank Yinrdroush (sp) in the first place for dumping it...

 

Was trying to get it off the disk with Omnivore but I eventually found out that ZoneAlarm's real time virus check was stopping Omnivore .15 from booting up.I'd have probably struggled to get it off anyway :) I saw that it started at 710 in terms of where it was on the disk..

 

Thanks again...



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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:29 AM

there was a common  version of 2.05 mis-labelled as 2.07

 

so rumours of it in the wild may be exaggerated

Just a few, version 2.07 I've found to be be more common than 2.05, but most distributors would take the 2.05 and update it to 2.07.

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