Lantronix UDS1100 and Atari 850

[Omega-TI]

Here is a dump of my UDS-10... see anything different?

*** Channel 1

Baudrate 4800, I/F Mode 4C, Flow 02

Port 10001

Connect Mode : D6 <---------------------------- What is your setting on this? Could this be it?

Auto increment source port disabled

Remote IP Adr: --- none ---, Port 00000

Disconn Mode : 00

Flush Mode : 00

*** Expert

TCP Keepalive : 45s

ARP cache timeout: 600s

Monitor Mode @ bootup : enabled

HTTP Port Number : 80

Anyway, I gotta blaze, time for work. GOOD LUCK!

[Back2skooldaze]

Can someone tell me apart from having the I/F Mode set to 4C in the lantronix and flow is set to 00 is there any other numbers to use for the flow setting?

 

I'm wondering whether the Atari(Bobterm) is using the same port settings as the Lantronix ? Or does the Atari 850 interface use its own port settings and can they be changed?

 

When i boot Bobterm it loads half way and then you get a long tone sound letting you know the 850 interface has loaded and its settings are in so i'm wondering whether i need to make sure the 850 interface needs to be set to the same as the Lantronix and Bobterm? I just presumed the 850 loaded its own stuff and it was in the term program like Bobterm that you can make port settings like in the Modem Parms i have gone by a previous guy who has used FULL/ASCii/9600

[Tillek]

As for using the CX87/88, different Lantronix adapters had different requirements (at least the MSS100 vs. the UDS1100, I had to use a null adapter and gender changer on my cable from my ST). I haven't used the Lantronix on an 8-bit yet, that's one of my near future projects since I have a lot of time on my hands now... Just have to dig out the old equipment. Are you using the dialing menu to get the no-carrier, or are you in terminal mode using AT commands? If you're getting responses to AT commands, I'd imagine you're cable is ok and your settings should probably be ok. Also, are you able to get in to the web configuration of the Lantronix through your web machine?

[Back2skooldaze]

Hi River Patrol thanks for your help yes i have the connection mode on D6 for definate otherwise i don't get the OK after i type AT or ATDT i get the nodeset 2.0 ?

 

I'll try your baud settings and the flow setting and see if it works

[Tillek]

Also, have you tried opening up the telnet client on the windows machine and seeing if you can communicate that way?

[Back2skooldaze]

no luck with Rive Patrols settings???? I get No Carrier?

 

*** Lantronix Universal Device Server ***

Serial Number 0449696 MAC address 00204A04C220

Software version V5.8.0.1 (041112) LTX

Press Enter for Setup Mode

*** basic parameters

Hardware: Ethernet Autodetect

IP addr 192.168.0.254, gateway 192.168.0.1,netmask 255.255.255.0

*** Security

SNMP is enabled

SNMP Community Name: public

Telnet Setup is enabled

TFTP Download is enabled

Port 77FEh is enabled

Web Server is enabled

ECHO is enabled

Enhanced Password is disabled

*** Channel 1

Baudrate 4800, I/F Mode 4C, Flow 02

Port 10001

Connect Mode : D6

Auto increment source port disabled

Remote IP Adr: --- none ---, Port 00000

Disconn Mode : 00

Flush Mode : 00

*** Expert

TCP Keepalive : 45s

ARP cache timeout: 600s

Monitor Mode @ bootup : enabled

HTTP Port Number : 80

Change Setup:

0 Server

1 Channel 1

5 Expert

6 Security

7 Factory defaults

8 Exit without save

9 Save and exit Your choice ?

[Back2skooldaze]

OK I need to ask if someone can guide me on using a Winxp laptop connected to the Lantronix via a null modem cable and trying to dial out on the Winxp laptop just to make sure the Lantronix is actually working?

 

I thought if i disconnect the atari 850 interface from the Lantronix and replace with a Winxp laptop and a null modem cable i could try and dial out just to see the Lantronix working?

 

I know when connecting the Winxp laptop to the lantronnix via the null modem cable i am able to get to the setup mode on the lantronix so just to see it work accessing the internet or a bbs site can someone please tell me how to go.

 

My head is in bits now and i've been on this for ages now with the atari and the c64 and both give me no carrier so now its a Pc i want to try

 

I just need to see the lantronix actually working and accessing a bbs site or some web activity.

[+DarkLord]

I don't hate the 1100 as much as DarkLord does....

 

Well, "hate" is probably a little bit strong...but I did have problems with mine and the UDS10 is just

so much easier to setup and maintain for what I need.

 

I can see where you need one though, for what you do.

[Back2skooldaze]

Here have a look at this i got back from Lantronix about me not being able to dial out and access bbs sites :-

 

Hello Andrew,

Next to activating Hardware flow control please add IP-address 173.80.198.175 to the remode host IP-address and port 23 to the remote port address.

As your BBS site uses an IP-address you don't need a Modem. just hook-up the UDS to one of the LAN-ports of your router.

Greetings,

Jacques Bastian
Technical Support Engineer EMEA
Europe, Middle-East, Africa

 

I have tried this by the way and it still give NO CARRIER but i'm sure this instruction is wrong! That means everytime i want to call a random bbs site i have to keep putting there ip address and port number in the channel 1 settings on the lantronix??? I don't think so LOL

 

If i disconnect the atari/850 from the lantronix serial and connect a laptop up can i download an atari emulator and try and connect to an ip address from the laptop/atari emulator?

 

I need to see if the lantronix is dialing out ? I have hyperterminal if anyone can assist me on how to use that to dial out.I will be connecting a null modem cable to the usb-serial port on the laptop and making sure the port settings will be the same as the lantronix for example :-Baud 9600,Date Bits 8,Parity None,Stop Bits 1 Flow Control None! Thats what i have the pc usb to serial port set to and on the atari i was using FULL/ASCii/9600 but getting NO CARRIER so i'm plugging the laptop in instead of the atari to the serial on the lantronix

 

Any help as to what i do to try and see if the lantronix is dialing out to an ip address/bbs site ??? Please

[Back2skooldaze]

Please any helpers i have tried atari 800 emulator and its too long winded to bother setting up so i've deleted it and i'll concentrate on using hyperterminal on winxp

 

Can someone help me dial out of hyper terminal to a bbs site just so i can see the lantronix working?

[Back2skooldaze]

OK Update!!! I have used WinXP with hyper terminal.I have connected using com port 1 with the same port settings as the Lantronix.It then states i am connected in hyper terminal so i then type ATDT 173.80.198.175:23 and guess what ???? No Carrier!

 

So i am getting no carrier in hyper terminal calling a bbs site so something somewhere is wrongin the lantronix settings?? I have tried different flow 00,02,03 I have tried Disconn 00,40 which 40 means enable telnet mode.

 

I am seriously stuck!

[Back2skooldaze]

Can someone please tell me there complete lantronix uds-10 settings right from the top.

1.Serial port settings

 

2.UDP Datagram Mode

 

3.Passive Connection

 

4.Active Connection

 

5.Disconnection

 

6.Connection LED-mine is set to blink

 

7.Buffer Flushing

 

8.Packing

 

I need to know the whole of the lantronix settings from someone who is able to call out to bbs sites with there lantronix uds-10

In number 7 and 8 i have alot of settings set to False which i presume is disable so thats why i need to know of someone else's settings

 

I have tried everything and on the winXP using hyper terminal i type AT i get OK i type ATDT i get ***nodeset 2.0*** if i type ATDT 192.168.0.1 which is my router and then press enter i get no carrier i then type ATDT i get the nodeset 2.0 i then type AT and i get my routers ip address and mac address showing in the terminal?

If i do this with all the devices on my network i can get all the ip and mac address's showing in the terminal? Just like it did on the Atari in Bobterm 1.22

So that to me feels like a ping back from the router to the terminal program?

I just can't call out to a bbs site?

 

This is insane!

[Tillek]

Now what you need to try is what I suggested earlier. Have the Atari set up with the Lantronix.... Have it sitting in terminal mode. Have your windows machine use its telnet client to telnet to the Lantronix's IP address. If it shows "RING" on the Lantronix side (or connects, depending on how you set the auto-answer) then you probably can be sure the problem is somewhere past the Lantronix. You also can try dialing from the Lantronix to the windows Telnet client (using the IP of the windows machine) but in that case, once the connection is attempted you will probably have to type "CONNECT" or "CONNECT <baud>" for the Lantronix to realize there was a connection.

[Back2skooldaze]

Hi Tillek,This is sounding more confusing as it goes on

OK I have been going through the lantronix pdf online and i stumbled across something that may shed some light on why i can't access a bbs i keep getting No Carrier so even with the atari on and the lantronix connected and in term mode i have No Carrier! I have also had a winXP laptop connected to the serial port on the Lantronix via null modem and using Hyper terminal i am getting exactly the same results when sitting in term mode? So with the atari or with winXP laptop its exactly the same!!!! No Carrier!

So heres what i think now maybe the problem!!! If i go in to monitor mode on the atari or winXP i then can type PI and an ip address of my devices on the network and i get a ping result BUT when i try to ping the lantronix ip i get Unreachable!! but all my other devices are pinging back!

Now i can get the lantronix pinging to my router but trying to ping from the atari or WinXP laptop its Unreachable? So now i am thinking its the cable from the atari 850 interface to the lantronix which is a CX88 and from a previous poster on this thread he has successfully connected using a CX87 modem cable.On the WinXP i am using a null mode cable (not a proper lantronix serial cable) and i get Unreachable when trying to ping from the WinXP laptop to the lantronix but when i go in to my router i can ping from the lantronix to the router perfect.So the problem may be from the atari 850 interface to the lantronix and the XP laptop but ok from the lantronix to my router!

 

This is what i've found after hours and more hours of trying different settings from the lantronix pdf guide.

If you try this yourself please let me know and tell me can you ping your lantronix ip address when in monitor mode????

Edited July 25, 2014 by Back2skooldaze

[flashjazzcat]

Sounds like the cable is at fault. It took me two years to figure out how to make one which worked. I can post a wiring plan later if it helps?

[Back2skooldaze]

Hi Flashjazzcat ,Thanks for your help i think what i'll do now is get a genuine Lantronix serial cable and try that.

I have just downloaded CoolTerm and i get No Carrier on there too? I tried to ping the lantronix ip address and it states its Unreachable so i am definately now going to get a Lantronix cable off ebay because i have a null modem cable connected to a usb-serial and the part that goes to the serial port on the Lantronix is a female connector and on the end of my null modem cable its a female connector but what i did get with the Lantronix is a 25 pin male to 25 pin male adapter and on the label it states its a Black Box Corp so i have been using that as a gender changer adapter between my null modem cable and the Lantronix.\

So whether this has anything to do with me getting No Carrier i will get a proper Lantronix cable.Thanks for your help regarding a cable diagram i'm not very good at making up cables like that so best to buy a ready made one.

I tell you what though Flashjazzcat there has been some tricky moments with pcs that i have eventually got my head round but this Lantronix uds-10 has got be really beat! So if it took your 2 years to figure it out it will take me 5 years LOL but i always get there in the end

 

I really appreciate everyones input on this topic so for that i thank you all I'm going to leave it until i get this lantronix serial cable i have seen on ebay and before i start connecting up to c64/atari/amiga etc.. the first thing i need to do is make sure its connecting with a carrier and accessing a bbs site on a windows machine!!!!! I need to get the ping from the lantronix showing first on a pc.

[Back2skooldaze]

I think its this i need for connecting a pc to the lantronix

 

Lantronix 500-163-R - CABLE MODEM DB9F TO DB25M 6FT

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390843103694?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Back2skooldaze]

OK This maybe my last post on this topic? I must be the unluckiest person in the world I have received the lantronix 500-163 cable and after connecting up both my atari and c64 there both doing exactly the same as before? So i know its not a cable issue now! I type at i get OK i type adtd i go in to monitor mode and can ping any of my devices on the network APART from the lantronix ip's address? It always comes back with Unreachable? So for some reason my lantronix is not seen on the atari/c64 end but it is seen on my router ?

 

I am actually thinking there is something blocking me from dialing out to a bbs site but i don't know what? I have tried port forwarding in my router with no difference?

I have gone in to device installer and set modem emulation to true and set that to full vebrose which is D6 and all i get is No Carrier? If i set telnet mode to true which is 40 in disconmode i still get No Carrier?

 

I am at a total dead end here and thinking i have a duff lantronix? I've tried all settings with no luck at all?

The only thing i can settle on that is working is having mode emulation on D6 which sets full vebrose and on the atari or c64 in term mode i can type AT i get OK and if i type ATDT i go in to monitor mode ***nodeset 2.0*** then when in there i can type PI 192.168.0.1 which is my routers ip and it pings back on the atari and c64 so something right is going on apart from when i type ATDT 173.80.198.175:23 or anyother ip address i get No Carrier??

 

I am feeling like getting another lantronix but still fear i'm wasting money? If i'm up against this issue again? I really can't understand why i am not able to call a bbs site from the lantronix the cable is fine and i get the OK response in term mode?

[Back2skooldaze]

This is a copy of my settings with Telnet enable and modem emulation mode enabled with these settings i am getting the OK after at and ATDT i go to monitor mode were i can ping my devices on the network BUT i can't ping the lantronix as it states its Unreachable???? If i type a random ip that does not exist is states Unreachable so i am thinking the lantronix is not seen so therefore i can not dial out???

 

Can someone please go in to monitor mode on there lantronix ***nodeset 2.0*** and type PI then your lantronix ip and see if yours pings back!

 

*** Lantronix Universal Device Server ***

Serial Number 0449696 MAC address 00204A04C220

Software version V5.8.0.5 (060724) LTX

Press Enter for Setup Mode

*** basic parameters

Hardware: Ethernet Autodetect

IP addr 192.168.0.200, gateway 192.168.0.1,netmask 255.255.255.0

*** Security

SNMP is enabled

SNMP Community Name: public

Telnet Setup is enabled

TFTP Download is enabled

Port 77FEh is enabled

Web Server is enabled

ECHO is disabled

Enhanced Password is disabled

*** Channel 1

Baudrate 9600, I/F Mode 4C, Flow 00

Port 10001

Connect Mode : D6

Auto increment source port disabled

Remote IP Adr: --- none ---, Port 00000

Disconn Mode : 40

Flush Mode : 00

Terminal name:

*** Expert

TCP Keepalive : 45s

ARP cache timeout: 600s

Monitor Mode @ bootup : enabled

HTTP Port Number : 80

Change Setup:

0 Server

1 Channel 1

5 Expert

6 Security

7 Factory defaults

8 Exit without save

9 Save and exit Your choice ?

[Back2skooldaze]

Another update LOL this is another email i got back from Lantronix :-

 

To use the ATDT-commands you need to set the connect mode to Modem and send ATE1 to the serial port first.
Unfortunately there appears to be an bug in the latest firmware for the UDS10 and it will not connect that way.

The new UDS1100 does connect when using Modem Mode.

As the UDS10 has been make obsolete long ago Engineering will not fix this bug.
Also to firmware for the UDS1100 is not compatible with the UDS10.

I also tried manual connect mode.
See Channel1/Startup.
This works too.

Set hyperterminal to the serial port that you are using.
Once configured type in hyperterminal c173.80.198.175/23 and you will be able to connect.

You can enter any IP-address behingd the character "c".

Hopefully this helps.

Greetings,

Jacques Bastian

[Back2skooldaze]

I've taken the plunge and bought a Lantronix UDS-1100 at least these are not obsolete!

I'll see how i get on with the uds-1100

 

Its just damn annoying when the uds-10 is doing all the right things apart from not being able to dial out as it keeps stating No Carrier? Even the clock in the term program that lets you know how long you've been connected is not moving? Also in monitor mode ***nodeset 2.0*** i can't ping the lantronix ip as it states Unreachable??? but i can ping from the router?

 

I'm using a proper lantronix 500-163 cable just to make sure it was not a cable problem!

 

[Back2skooldaze]

Hi another update!! I have the lantronix connected to my winxp laptop via the lantronix 500-163 serial cable.I have hyper terminal open and connected with No Carrier

If i unplug the lantronix and disconnect hyper terminal then start hyper terminal again and press in the psu to the lantronix i am able to hold down the x key then press enter to go in to setup mode! But once in there i have tried all kinds of settings with no luck? I can type in the lantronix ip address and port number in a web browser and it will go in to the setup mode or i can telnet using the device installer to the setup mode!

 

So with my winxp laptop not connected to any router/internet just the lantronix serial cable going to port 1 i can start hyper terminal but i get No Carrier??? So its not just the atari or the c64 at fault as this is happening on the winxp laptop too?????? I can still ping in hyper terminal all my devices and they ping back APART from the lantronix ip address?

 

I have the lantronix set to its own ip and the gateway is my routers ip and the subnet is 255.255.255.0 so all that is setup correctly? I am now thinking the lantronix is at fault?

 

I've tried modem mode with full character response i have set to Never Accept Incoming with no luck i have set the lantronix to telnet mode and all i get is No Carrier in hyper terminal?

 

The only connect mode i can do is D6 which is full vebrose with full character response thats what then tells me there is No carrier? If i change the D6 to something else i get nothing on screen and i can't type anything??

 

P/s My Lantronix uds-1100 arrived today and i have sent it back today untouched!!! There was no power supply and there was no cd rom and there was no serial cable!!! All the other sellers on ebay include these items and with the amount i paid for the lantronix uds-1100 i'd expect the psu and cd rom at least!!!!

So i'm now trying to buy another with psu/cd rom/serial cable but paypal keeps refusing my payment and paypal have told me its not at my end thats at fault its the seller!! which he knows this and told me he had sorted it out but tried again today to buy a lantronix from him and my payment is refused! but thats another story and its fustrating enough with the uds-10

 

 

Its not my day today

 

Can anyone else shed some light on why i can't connect to a bbs site or why i get No Carrier when connected to my winxp laptop but can ping my devices apart from the lantronix which keeps telling me its Unreachable??????

[+DarkLord]

Sorry about all your troubles and not being able to resolve them.

 

If you like, you could send the UDS10 to me, and I'll try it out here

with my setup and see if it works.

 

I'd pay the S&H back to you.

 

At least then we could rule out if its just the Lantronix.

 

Ronald J. Hall

464 Conley Fork Road

Prestonsburg, KY 41653

USA

[Back2skooldaze]

Hi DarkLord thanks for your reply and thanks for the offer but usa is too far and too much trouble for me to go with this lantronix uds-10.

I've sent Lantronix another email explaining what i am able to do with the uds-10 but still getting No Carrier in hyper terminal and if they can assist again?

 

I have just sent a uds-1100 back as i was shocked there was no psu or cable or cd rom just a single uds-1100 in a massive box ?? So i've sent that back! This lantronix stuff is giving me a massive headache.I've been looking on ebay.co.uk to see whats out there in lantronix so i can setup and access bbs sites on the winxp atari/c64/amiga.

 

I can't understand why i am getting No Carrier? I can type AT and ATE1 and ATDT and AT0=0 and ATV1 all these are AT commands that i can use and i get an OK.

I think on the ATV1 it goes in to the monitor mode but something about setting the serial port i read it somewhere today on the internet.I can do all those commands in hyper terminal and i can ping all my devices in hyper terminal and on the atari/c64 i can also ping all my devices on the network no problem apart from i can't ping my router from hyper terminal or c64/atari but the funny thing is i can go in to my router and ping the lantronix from there successfully?

 

I have even bought a lantronix 500-163 serial cable just to eliminate cable trouble but obviously my previous cables were fine as i am getting the same results?

 

Just out of interest do i need to do serial port tunneling ???? I've been reading up on that and i have downloaded port direct program from Lantronix site but as i am using win7 i have a TrendNet TU-S9 serial to usb and in the port director program i click com port 1 and it says This is not a CPR port so whether this has to do with the serial to usb adapter?

 

My next move is to dig out a winxp tower that has a serial port on the motherboard so i can hook up the lantronix without any adapters involved and i'll try again with hyper terminal and see if that makes a difference ? I'll also try the port director program too to see if it picks up the serial port ?

 

This is sooooo mind boggling i just can't let go LOL I'm like a dog with a bone Hi Hi Hi

 

Anyways thanks DarkLord for your suggestion and i just can't wait to access darkforce bbs on the atari xl.

Once i hooked up my ape cable to a winxp pc and loaded up my registered ape software and from there i was able to telnet to darkforce bbs thats when i first joined up with a membership number so i was expecting to do this with the lantronix uds-10 like everyone else has ???

 

I do type a lot so i do apologies for the long posts but this is so frustrating i just want it to work

[+DarkLord]

No problem, the frustration is easy to understand.

 

I hope you understand when I say, sometimes its hard for me to answer your questions.

 

Here's why - I don't have an 8bit that I've got hooked up to an 850 interface or Lantronix

device. I don't have any Windows machines that I use with a Lantronix device. So it's just

hard to answer any questions involving those setups.

 

I run my BBS off of an Atari Mega ST4. When I use an Atari to call in to my BBS, its my

highly modified Atari STacy. I hope that explains things.

 

I do remember taking a UDS10 one time to work and using a Winbox's serial port to

do settings on it, but since then I've always used my STacy.

 

Anyway, hope you get it sorted out soon.