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#1 simbalion OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:47 PM

All my work with the Apple II series actually ended up making me confident enough to pull out my often ignored VIC 20 and try to get it going. I've only had the unit 12 years, but have always had issues with the RF boxes. Well, I finally got the unit going with a box that was given to me after fiddling with one of the adjustments inside the box and it is not a bad little gaming computer. Now, I only have 9 cartridges and am soon going to look for some more. Any recommended games to look for? I already have the following:
Adventurland
The Count
Cosmic Cruncher
Voodoo Castle
Poker
Pinball
Mission Impossible
Jupiter Lander
Star Trek

Now to find some other fun offerings. Sadly, the place I got my unit from and a place that had parts and carts was burnt to the ground by an arsonist in 2010. :(

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Posted Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:15 PM

Well, just off the top of my head, Omega Race, Radar Ratrace, Gorf & Clowns. There's a lot of good games for the Vic-20. My advice, if you're serious... is to just get a Mega-Cart. Yeah, it's like $100 or whatever, and yeah, you might have to wait for it awhile, but it has so many carts/tapes/disks on it, plus all the utilities and RAM expansions and whatnot... it's really a fantastic value. If you want real carts, fortunately, the vast majority of them are super cheap, even on ebay.

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Posted Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:55 PM

http://en.wikipedia....re_VIC-20_games

http://realmsofquest.blogspot.com/

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Posted Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:53 PM

The Mega-Cart is pricey but definitely worthy of consideration, since it has every game released on cartridge, plus some other cool stuff. It depends how much you really want to get into the VIC and how much money you want to spend. As was stated earlier, most cartridges are pretty cheap (especially loose). A lot of people dumped their collections when the Mega-Cart came out and there's not a lot of competition for VIC cartridges these days. I have several carts (loose and boxed) sitting around if you're interested.

Ditch the RF box and get yourself an AV cable...the difference in video quality is significant. They're available on eBay from several sources...

eBay Auction -- Item Number: 230923389171

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:48 AM

I've also got a bunch of spare Vic20 tapes and carts here. There are some great games for the computer, and it is partly what inspired me to take the horns for Gamebase20, the database that attempts to catalog all the games released for the machine. It's over 2,200 entries now, and keeps climbing.

Taken from the article I wrote for Retro Gamer magazine, these are the ten games I listed: Jelly Monsters, Omega Race, Pirate Cove, Matrix (aka Attack of the Mutant Camels in the US), Demon Attack, Sword of Fargoal, Key Quest, Lazer Zone, Astro Nell, Game Theory.

I would probably shove Realms of Quest 3 in there now, but it wasn't out when I wrote the piece. The last two are homebrew releases, and can be found for download on the internet.

At the moment I have 150+ cartridges and 300+ tapes for the machine, but I don't keep everything I get, I just keep the ones I want. Many of my purchases are done to archive them for GB20, and then I sell them on. Win-win either way, especially as I often pick up games fairly cheaply and sell them on for more.

Edited by Mayhem, Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:49 AM.


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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:13 AM

Mayhem, are you referring to the article in issue #46? I just went to their site at http://www.retrogame...back_issues.php and none of the buy back issue buttons work. I'd like to read that article if they fix that link.

I already had quite a few Vic-20 carts when I bought the MegaCart, but that didn't stop me. I had the opportunity to buy a whole bunch of nice CIB titles (mostly Commodore brand ones) so I bought them. Would buy more if I find ones I don't have. I doubt I'd ever use them, having the MegaCart, but it's the collector in me that wants them. I have most of the ones I had when I was a kid, and then some. I did just recently sell about a dozen of my doubles for I think it was like $20 or so.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:15 AM

I found the page where the purchase buttons work, but unfortunately, issue 46 is no longer available:
https://www.imagines...o gamer&x=0&y=0

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:56 PM

Not sure if I have scans of the article from issue #46, but I'll look. I think I have the DVDs for the first 60 issues though, so it should be in there someplace. I'll also have a look at what Vic20 carts I have spare.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:12 PM

Yeah, I even saw that the "eMag Load 1" and "emag Load 2" are out of stock also. I believe #46 would have been on "Load 2".

Thanks.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:33 PM

Omega Race - Use a game paddle as a spinner.

Type Attack - This is where the 22 column screen really works well, a Space Invaders style Typing tutor.

Shamus - Great explore the room and stay alive similar to Berzerk.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:02 PM

Thanks for the tips so far! I might have some VIC 20 carts coming later on this week from a co-worker. His son owns a video game store that specializes in older systems and supposedly has some VIC-20 stuff.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:25 PM

Raid on Ft Knox is one of my favorites on the Vic 20. Alien is also good. Dragon Fire plays great on the Vic too.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:37 PM

I think the VIC is a pretty fun little computer. The advantage of collecting for it is that with the exception of some of the more rare stuff, it doesn't seem very in demand, and it in general you can get a sizeable collection for much cheaper than some of the other platforms such as Atari 8-bit.

A couple of other games that I like that haven't been mentioned:
Avenger (Fun little Space Invaders clone)
Rescue on Rigel (The other versions are probably better, but I still like it)

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:55 PM

This thread inspired me to check out the Denial VIC-20 forums for the first time in quite a while. Anybody know what happened? Looks like it is now a private site. Going to http://sleepingeleph...in/bb/index.php prompts you for a passcode.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:43 PM

No prompt for a passcode here..
Maybe they were having some site probs?

My favs were Omega Race and GORF, but as mentioned, there's lots of great Vic-20 games. Not fancy, but just fun.
I also really like the Vic-20 Choplifter...

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:46 PM

Now, I just have to ask, were there any racing games for the VIC-20?

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:56 PM

Now, I just have to ask, were there any racing games for the VIC-20?


On cartridge, there was Pole Position and Road Race. I'm sure there's more available on cassette if you want to go that route.

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Posted Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:56 PM

No prompt for a passcode here..
Maybe they were having some site probs?


Must have been. It's working now.

Now, I just have to ask, were there any racing games for the VIC-20?


There is a port of Pole Position. Don't know if it is any good or not.

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Posted Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:42 AM

Denial was doing a host move/software update I believe, whether or not it succeeded, I'm not sure at the moment.

And yes, there were plenty of racing games for the Vic20. Many of them were the old standby of "go as far as you can while avoiding obstacles" type, but there are others. I'd have to hunt through GB20 to see which ones are the good ones. Chariot Race springs to mind, but I don't know if that would work in the US (it's a UK tape game).

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Posted Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:53 PM

Thanks again! I'll keep an eye out for those. Guess I should have figure Pole Position would be on the system as it was on just about all the rest.

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Posted Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:56 PM

Denial got hit by some spambots last week and I saw some references about the domain also being used by Jeff for other things so who knows. I cannot currently log in as I get the request for a pass code as well.

I just got Mega Cart but be warned, it took over a year. The Final Expansion 3 looks nice but it looked like Retro Donald was taking some time off due to family illness when I checked in last week. You could always get a uIEC and ram expansions. Eslapion (Lemon 64 and Denial name) only had a few of his 35k expansion left but if you can get one it will make most files available in conjunction with Jim Brain's uIEC - no 3K expansion or tape programs but PRG files, disks, and even cartridge files (though you have to use a small trick).

I second GORF as a nomination. I also highly recommend Donkey Kong.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:33 PM

Had a look at racing games of many sorts... I'd recommend the following: Chariot Race, Night Drive, Pole Position, Tammerfors. Fewer games than I thought that were available.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:49 PM

I seem to remember really liking Jungle Hunt on the VIC-20.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:09 PM

I recently played through the bulk of the AtariSoft games for the VIC-20. Jungle Hunt is indeed one of the better ones. Surprisingly, Donkey Kong plays very well on the VIC as well. Moon Patrol is not bad, but should have been better. Pac-Man is for completionists only. I didn't write down my opinion of Pole Position, but I don't remember being either amazed or disgusted by it.

As for other games, Jeff Minter's Gridrunner and Matrix (a.k.a. Attack of the Mutant Camels, not to be confused with Attack of the Mutant Camels... it's complicated) are best played on the VIC-20, even though they also saw release on more powerful machines like the C-64.

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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013 10:50 PM

I got one of the low cost multicarts as a surprise gift from my mom today. Has 32 arcade games on it, with several of the Atarisoft titles. Quite a bit of fun as long as I don't lose the sheet with the dip switch combinations on it.





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