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What kind of games do you think would be fun or worth exploring?
The various machines all have games unique to them as well as their own flavor for games they have in common.
Atari, for example has many excellent arcade ports, but is kind of weak on character/ plat former type games, but has a lot of good home brew type projects going on.
C64 has more newer games because it saw commercial support, has shooters and more plat formers, and plenty of home brew.
Apple has a lot of odd games, many not found elsewhere, is a killer machine for Ultimate, text adventures, etc... not as much new going on though.
Opinions will vary on all of that, and I'm not happy with those summaries myself, but I'm posting on a phone, so it will be brief.
In terms of other software, Apples have tons of things for business, graphics, programming, etc...
Atari has less of this and lacks a good 80 column display. C64 has more IMHO, but it too lacks that display.
If you like hardware stuff, Apple rules.
All of the machines have disk emulation so you can run lots of stuff.
What do you want to do?
Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013 11:54 AM
There is only one version of the 1541 Ultimate currently (pre-)orderable:
The 1541U-II, for € 129.95 (incl. 21% sales-tax), thus € 107.40 excluding VAT. This new design comes with a plastic case and is a full redesign of the 1541U-I. It includes USB and real time clock, and the SD-card has been replaced with MicroSD. It does not have Ethernet initially. Ethernet is targeted to become available after a software update only. Keep an eye on the main page to learn about the project and production status.
If you like to order, please register with the site, and find the menu item "Order Now!" at the left of your screen. Fill out your info and you will be automatically added to the (pre-)order list.
Difference between pre-order and confirmed orders
Pre-ordering does not obligate you to actually BUY the unit; it is a measure for me to see how many units I need to produce. When you confirm your order, I do expect you to actually make a payment as well.
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:11 PM
Depends what you mean by best 80s computer....
...if you mean best by most powerful and ahead of its time then it would be hands down an Amiga.
...if you mean best by most popular and supported then it would be hands down the C64.
...if you mean best by most fondestly remembered then it would be.... different for everyone. Nostalgia plays a big part in these things so if you were old enough to own/use a computer in the 80s then you will already have an idea of what the "best" 80s computer is.
I find them all fascinating in their own ways, but for myself:
Amiga - ultra powerful for its time, cutting edge custom chips and made for gaming - same father as the Atari 8 bit computer range.
Atari ST - very well supported, first affordable 16 bit computer with good capabilities and some ground breaking games.
C64 - first computer to inspire musicians to write gaming soundtracks instead of just noise. Hardware sprites and scrolling made it a very capable 8 bit system. Massive support and games library.
Atari 8 bit computers were very much ahead of their time with great specs etc, but very little software support and poor quality games compared to what was available on their peers, which is a shame as in many ways they were more capable machines (except the C64 which was made for gaming).
ZX Spectrum was a very low spec system which was designed around a relatively fast cpu which programmers used to replicate hardware features in software meaning that whilst it was never going to be as good as something the like the C64 for scrolling etc, it was very flexible and had some breakthrough gaming styles - such as isometric adventure games etc.
Vic 20, C-16, Plus 4 etc were very low end and did not get any more software past the mid 80s (late 80s had the best gaming in my humble opinion) so they missed out big time, similar to the 8 bit Ataris which got VERY little love, arcade ports or even new software releases in the late 80s.
Take from it what you will and best of luck.
Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:39 PM
Best from the criteria listed in the initial post.
Edited by wood_jl, Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:41 PM.
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013 10:08 PM
With regards TV hook up, even the more modern systems have many options for this. Nearly all Amigas have a composite out, or you can get a decent tv with scart (scart rulez) and use the far better RGB. If you are in a country where scart is not readily available (my condolences) then you can use S-vide which is still quite good for gaming (Amigamaniac sells new RGB to scart adapters for $30.00).
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