cbmeeks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Any more news in this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 ^ He just posted an update 7 days ago: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/216282-colecovision-12-replacement-pcb-added-features/?p=3209870 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmeeks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Ah. I read that but missed the posted date. Cool. Hopefully this will become a real product this year. On a side note, this project is very close to what I've wanted to do. For a while now, I've dreamed of designing a Coleco "compatible" computer. I know there is ADAM and MSX but have you priced those lately? Lol Anyway, my idea was to use new parts only and perhaps try to get audio and video through a Parallax Propeller. Oh well, if/when I get beyond the breadboard with my design I will let people know. Edited April 7, 2015 by cbmeeks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I worked on the 3rd prototype again, and got it working fairly well. I need to make a fix to the latching for the Static RAM for the VDP, and also to the Sega controller inputs. The fix for both is known. I probably need to get another batch of PCB prototypes done again soon, so I'll make sure these changes are included, and see if I can get the expansion port worked out. any chance of some kind of rgb video output ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 any chance of some kind of rgb video output ? Probably not. Definitely not anytime soon. If all goes well, probably these will be available starting with VGA and then later analog YPbPr, then digitally created YPbPr and then DVI/HDMI or whatever is around at the time. I could consider digitally created RGB the same time as digitally created YPbPr, but I have no TV or monitor that accepts RGB inputs. By the way, when I say "digitally created", I'm speaking of taking the color difference outputs from the TMS9928A, capturing that data digitally (A/D converter of some sort), massaging that data, then sending it out (D/A converter) as required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Probably not. Definitely not anytime soon. If all goes well, probably these will be available starting with VGA and then later analog YPbPr, then digitally created YPbPr and then DVI/HDMI or whatever is around at the time. I could consider digitally created RGB the same time as digitally created YPbPr, but I have no TV or monitor that accepts RGB inputs. By the way, when I say "digitally created", I'm speaking of taking the color difference outputs from the TMS9928A, capturing that data digitally (A/D converter of some sort), massaging that data, then sending it out (D/A converter) as required. Sounds good. Are you still considering implementing a daughter board system, so the output option could be a plug-and-play affair? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 nice, anything is better than what is available at the moment, cant wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzeroceania Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Probably not. Definitely not anytime soon. If all goes well, probably these will be available starting with VGA and then later analog YPbPr, then digitally created YPbPr and then DVI/HDMI or whatever is around at the time. I could consider digitally created RGB the same time as digitally created YPbPr, but I have no TV or monitor that accepts RGB inputs. By the way, when I say "digitally created", I'm speaking of taking the color difference outputs from the TMS9928A, capturing that data digitally (A/D converter of some sort), massaging that data, then sending it out (D/A converter) as required. Hi 5-11under ! Tim Lawrence here, I have a Sony PVM RGB monitor that I could give to you. Would you consider doing RGB output if you had an RGB monitor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo930 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The Colecovision is the most poorly built/manufactured game system ever! The PCB is total junk and the on/off switch is junk. I rebuilt my on/off switch and it works fine, but now I am getting occasional controller problems. I think I can probably just resolder the ports though. The cartridge slot isn't much to write home about either. For as decent a system as it was, it was manufactured very poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Colecovision is the most poorly built/manufactured game system ever! The PCB is total junk and the on/off switch is junk. I rebuilt my on/off switch and it works fine, but now I am getting occasional controller problems. I think I can probably just resolder the ports though. The cartridge slot isn't much to write home about either. For as decent a system as it was, it was manufactured very poorly. You should see some of their Telstar dedicated systems from the '70s. Some were quite nice and nicely made, but others were so cheap (or cheap-looking!) it's almost unbelievable. I just fixed up my Gemini, which is a notorious console for power and controller sockets coming loose. Pretty easy to fix, but they were not built to last right out of the box. The board itself is actually flexible (like, more than you'd expect, and this is probably the culprit behind jacks and ports getting worked loose) and requires its metal shielding/housing to brace it. Coleco made some cool stuff, but yeah, the quality of the parts they used is often dubious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannacek Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The quality of the manufacturing was average for its day, which means its 10-20 times better than what is average for today. Because it's all thru hole technology, you can easily replace any components that go bad. Coleco didn't design their products to still be in use decades after they were introduced, and decades after the company went out of business. They probably designed it to last 10 or 15 years at the most, at which time ColecoVision's successor would have fully replaced it. It's a testament to the quality domestic manufacturing that a lot of ColecoVision's either still work, or work after minor refurbishment. If you want to see poor manufacturing, just open up a ColecoVision flashback, or a Retron 2, Retron 3, ect, or a Yobo, or any other clone console. I can't imagine those will last as long in working condition as the original consoles they are cloning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The quality of the manufacturing was average for its day, which means its 10-20 times better than what is average for today. Because it's all thru hole technology, you can easily replace any components that go bad. Coleco didn't design their products to still be in use decades after they were introduced, and decades after the company went out of business. They probably designed it to last 10 or 15 years at the most, at which time ColecoVision's successor would have fully replaced it. It's a testament to the quality domestic manufacturing that a lot of ColecoVision's either still work, or work after minor refurbishment. If you want to see poor manufacturing, just open up a ColecoVision flashback, or a Retron 2, Retron 3, ect, or a Yobo, or any other clone console. I can't imagine those will last as long in working condition as the original consoles they are cloning. I have to agree with this. Especially the part about how systems still work 30+ years later and were probably never intended to. I mean, I have 3 or 4 CV systems that are all in perfect working order with no mods. Never even opened up the casings. 1 of which has sat in a box for nearly 20 years in the garage. I have yet to buy something off eBay for the system that didn't work. Maybe I've just gotten lucky, I dunno. But I actually have found the consoles to be fairly well built, especially for the early 80s. I've had plenty of Chinese knock-off crap fail, as have several XBOX and Sony consoles in recent years. Hell, I had an XBOX 360 die on me after about 6 months of use. I don't seem to recall the CV having it's version of the RROD! lol I can't speak for the technical construction of the PCB because I don't really know much about it. I just know that all my systems work and I've had very good luck with them well after the systems intended lifecycle has expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omf Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I don't seem to recall the CV having it's version of the RROD! I have, in fact i have spent a lot of time diagnosing and just rescently fixing the issue, i am in the process of writing it the results to post http://atariage.com/forums/topic/218089-pal-or-secam-bios-replacement/ for now we can call it a BSODWH - Black Screen Of Death With audio Humm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 we can call it a BSODWH - Black Screen Of Death With audio Humm Now that's kind of funny! lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Actually, the "traditional" ColecoVision RROD is the TGOBICOEMSWGG (Turn-Game-Off-Before-Inserting-Cartridge-Or-Expansion-Module-Screen-With-Garbled-Graphics) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 ^ Now THAT I've encountered! But at least not to the point where it bricked my entire system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_c Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Coleco didn't design their products to still be in use decades after they were introduced, and decades after the company went out of business. Should say "no one designed their products..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron1999 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Colecovision NEW Motherboard Is there a BOM (Bill of Materials) list for this ? So I can start buying ICs etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 Colecovision NEW Motherboard Is there a BOM (Bill of Materials) list for this ? So I can start buying ICs etc Keep in mind that it's all vapourware at the moment, but anyway, the planned items needed are: ColecoVision console shell/case, 5V power supply, and possibly an F18A. ICs and other parts will already be assembled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vectorman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The Colecovision is the most poorly built/manufactured game system ever! The PCB is total junk and the on/off switch is junk. I rebuilt my on/off switch and it works fine, but now I am getting occasional controller problems. I think I can probably just resolder the ports though. The cartridge slot isn't much to write home about either. For as decent a system as it was, it was manufactured very poorly. CV systems were considered a children's toy and were made to toy standards by a toy company( COLECO ). It was most likely intended to be used for 2-3 years tops and discarded, like most toys. Do you really think Coleco planned to make it so video game collectors in 2015 could still be using it? What other electronics/appliances from 1982 are you still using daily? It's ludicrous that video game collectors expect a 33 year old CV that was sitting in someones dusty, damp basement or scorching hot attic for decades to perform like it's brand new and if it doesn't it's "junk". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron1999 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 "£$"$%£$^$%&%^*%&...... I Can't wait much longer for the replacement Colecovision motherboard. If it doesn't come out soon I'm going to POOP Myself !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Keep in mind that it's all vapourware at the moment, "£$"$%£$^$%&%^*%&...... I Can't wait much longer for the replacement Colecovision motherboard. If it doesn't come out soon I'm going to POOP Myself !! Looks like you'll be needing a new diaper then... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 "£$"$%£$^$%&%^*%&...... I Can't wait much longer for the replacement Colecovision motherboard. If it doesn't come out soon I'm going to POOP Myself !! Please take pictures when you do, there's an army of meme-makers out there just waiting for new material. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashv Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Please take pictures when you do, there's an army of meme-makers out there just waiting for new material. Couldn't resist... via Imgflip Meme Maker via Imgflip Meme Maker 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron1999 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 It'll be MESSy and Very Very Smelly !! You've been warned ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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