Rev Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 http://www.gamesforyourintellivision.com/halfcut.html Just informing Ya'll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Rick Reynolds Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yep! There's a mention of this in the latest Intellivisionaries episode as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjarnold7 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Awesome! Just heard it on the Podcast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 "half cut"... too funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It was with great sadness that Hover Bovver had to be cancelled due to very nasty and public fighting with the developer over terms of the contract, and quality concerns. That last part wont impress someone who doesn't know what went on - especially if you're trying to get them to purchase the 2 levels already made. I'd leave that out if we want more customers to fund a new full release. It's not in the spirit of moving on that Elektronite wanted. Hopefully someone involved will contact the editors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Hmmm. I think I'm excited. Edited October 24, 2013 by JasonlikesINTV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric7100 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Sounds too complicated. I say just sell the new game normally whenever it's available. This kind of set-up is a turn-off to some, and between the individual boxes sale and this sale, it makes it look like Elektronite is just after people's money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fushek Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Will the full, finished game eventually be available CIB in the future then? Or do we need to order a box now, order the half cut edition now and then, when the game is done, ship back the half cut edition and receive the full, finished cart just to get a CIB copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 I wonder about the manual? Also 200 boxes were supposed to be it. And the rest destroyed! So this may be a nice collectable AND a great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfraMan Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Does the 'Half Cut' edition come with the box, manual, and overlay? Or just the cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slab0meat Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Does the 'Half Cut' edition come with the box, manual, and overlay? Or just the cart? What is the 'Half Cut' edition you may ask? ......The Hover Bovver - Half Cut Edition is a cartridge in an LTO shell, with the planned official Hover Bovver Cartridge sticker. It includes: The 'Milestone' '2 working levels' of the original (now cancelled) game The LTO/Elektronite Hover Bovver Voice Test rom, that works with an Intellivoice and features a voice actor with a British accent! (An example of the high quality voices that will be in the re-developed game) The Match 5 Demo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Does the 'Half Cut' edition come with the box, manual, and overlay? Or just the cart? You obviously didn't read what was in the link that Rev provided... for $40, you get half a box, half a manual, half an overlay and half a cartridge. When the final version is released, you send all that crap back and they assemble the missing halves! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfraMan Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 You obviously didn't read what was in the link that Rev provided... for $40, you get half a box, half a manual, half an overlay and half a cartridge. When the final version is released, you send all that crap back and they assemble the missing halves! Lol, OK fine... I guess I asked for that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Just let me know when the final version is available and I'll buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Please be aware the redevelopment of Hover Bovver depends on support. If there is no support, CGPI will refund all supporters with a $40 certificate towards the purchase of an Elektronite product, and they can KEEP the 'Half Cut Edition'. If the fans want to see the game produced, buy the Half Cut Edition today! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Please be aware the redevelopment of Hover Bovver depends on support. If there is no support, CGPI will refund all supporters with a $40 certificate towards the purchase of an Elektronite product, and they can KEEP the 'Half Cut Edition'. If the fans want to see the game produced, buy the Half Cut Edition today! I don't know if you saw my post here. I'd recommend getting that line about quality issues removed. You know what happened better than anyone but if this 2 level edition is going to take off it doesn't need that kind of press. UPDATE: Just in case it isn't clear. The declaration that their were quality concerns directly effects how people perceive those 2 levels they are buying - not just the developer of those levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprette Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I don't know if you saw my post here. I'd recommend getting that line about quality issues removed. You know what happened better than anyone but if this 2 level edition is going to take off it doesn't need that kind of press. HB will be rewritten from scratch. quality issue of the existing 2 level version have nothing to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Please be aware the redevelopment of Hover Bovver depends on support. If there is no support, CGPI will refund all supporters with a $40 certificate towards the purchase of an Elektronite product, and they can KEEP the 'Half Cut Edition'. If the fans want to see the game produced, buy the Half Cut Edition today! Thanks for the clarification. So buying the $40 Half Cut edition is the means by which we crowd fund this? So not including shipping, if you bought a single pair of box/overlays for $40.... then buy two Half Cut editions and subsequently upgrade (hopefully) for $80, and manuals are eventually thrown in, you're looking at $120 (plus a lot of shipping) for two CIB games.....or $60 each. Assuming CGPI covers the return shipping of the final cart, and figuring the ($15 to orig ship the boxes + ~$10 Half Cut shipping + $10 Half Cut return shipping), or $25 total shipping.....this still leaves the average price of 2 CIB copies at $72.50/ ea, which isn't terrible if the game quality delivers. I'm in, I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 HB will be rewritten from scratch. quality issue of the existing 2 level version have nothing to do with it *I* know that. I'm telling you it still reads like those quality concerns are present in those 2 levels. It sounds spiteful which is not what you wanted to portray. Just feedback, man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Any ballpark idea of a time frame for final release, assuming this gets support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fushek Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It sounds spiteful which is not what you wanted to portray. No, I'm pretty certain that the spite was intended. Did you listen to the George Plimpton advertising Hover Bovver link in the upper left? Uh, yeah. Spite intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3-rg Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 That version of the game is cancelled, and it is time to move on. Despite what the developer of the game may think, Elektronite still has the permission of Llamasoft to write Hover Bovver for the Intellivision. Any distribution by the original developer of the game is infringement of the rights of Classic Game Publishers, Inc. the exclusive manufacturer of Elektronite games. So how exactly is "any distribution by the original developer of the game" an infringement of the rights of Classic Game Publishers, Inc? If you're going to put that out there, you have to provide the document or source to back it up. I publicly state here that it is my opinion that Elektronite holds no exclusive or formal rights to put out Hover Bovver for Intellivision. Prove me wrong. Yeah, reading through all that really sounds like "moving on"... actually, it just smells like a cash grab. Reading through the spat PMs it's plain to see that it was a cash flow problem that led to development stalling and the beginnings of the playground antics. If Elektronite were really, honestly and truly upset with what they received they wouldn't shame themselves by putting the game out at all - they'd leave it as the digital download from AA that they uploaded and call it quits. But we all know that was pure bullshit - Jeff Minter himself played the near-final game and only had good things to say (which isn't surprising as the game was play-tested by two absolute HB fanboys towards the end of development, who know the game better than most). I can't help thinking everything that surrounds Elektronite is in some way half-cut or half-arsed, this is just half a cherry on a half-baked cake, like half their schemes... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 No, I'm pretty certain that the spite was intended. Did you listen to the George Plimpton advertising Hover Bovver link in the upper left? Uh, yeah. Spite intended. Yeah. I guess that does sound more like a personal insult. I'm just saying the quality concerns line should be taken out because it does sound like it effects what people are buying. Why would I want to buy a product that has quality concerns? It's just too confusing to add value to the sales pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah. I guess that does sound more like a personal insult. I'm just saying the quality concerns line should be taken out because it does sound like it effects what people are buying. Why would I want to buy a product that has quality concerns? It's just too confusing to add value to the sales pitch. Your point would be wholly valid if making money were the only intended outcome of this proposition. But as others have made clear, part of what you are being asked to buy is a side in the fight. So, the "quality concerns" part of the copy makes complete sense if part of what you are being asked to consume is an allegiance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjarnold7 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 But we all know that was pure bullshit - Jeff Minter himself played the near-final game and only had good things to say (which isn't surprising as the game was play-tested by two absolute HB fanboys towards the end of development, who know the game better than most). I THOUGHT the game was already completed by then????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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