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#1 luckybuck OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:08 PM

Hello together!

 

There are some artifacts...

 

Cartridge: CXL4017 Pascal

 

As far as I know, this cart was announced, but never released.

 

Same seems true for:

 

CX8109 Pascal

CX8110 Pascal Database

CX8115 Pascal-Native Code

CX8116 Pascal-Linker

 

Does anyone know more? Any hint to dig further? The APX-20102 version is known and not of interest here.

 

Best regards and many thanks in advance


Edited by luckybuck, Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:12 PM.


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Posted Sun Nov 3, 2013 5:56 PM

announced when/where?



#3 luckybuck OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 3, 2013 6:00 PM

Michael, is that you?

 

Well, I have it from an Atari list, but never seen it. Only the APX-version.

 

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Posted Sun Nov 3, 2013 6:07 PM

Is the list on the Net?

 

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Posted Sun Nov 3, 2013 6:11 PM

Here is an article about it and why it never appeared.

 

http://www.cyberroac...an11/pascal.htm

 

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Posted Sun Nov 3, 2013 6:16 PM

Dear Allan!

 

Thank you very much! :-)

 

Yes, I think it was in the Atari FAQ. But with the CX-numbers you should find it quick.

 

Thank you for the article, will read it :-)



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Posted Sun Nov 3, 2013 6:35 PM

Thank you Allan, you helped me a lot!

 

Therefore, the Fortran 77 language shouldn't be asked for either...

 

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Posted Mon Nov 4, 2013 7:11 AM

I read:

 

In March, 1982, after many promises and much delay, ATARI quietly released their ATARI PASCAL Language System. However, they didn’t release it through the expected channels. PASCAL was released through the ATARI Program Exchange as unsupported software. Adding to that disappointment, it required two ATARI 810 disk drives. ATARI also said that the program “was not suited for learning PASCAL or the ATARI 800 computer.” Furthermore, the absence of a compatible assembler (one which generates relocatable code), limited debugging tools, and incomplete documentation are considered to have reduced the usefulness of ATARI’s PASCAL. Finally, only part of the PASCAL language system was released. Since then, almost nothing has been said by ATARI or anyone else about the product.

 

It's released as unsupported software through non-expected channels. So it exists somewhere in any form.


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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 8:13 AM

"PASCAL was released through the ATARI Program Exchange (APX) as unsupported software."

 

The APX version we have complete with manual, but the software is only 2 disks, not 4!

 

Therefore, if a developer of Atari Pascal reads this, there might be chance...

 

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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 8:42 AM

 

Hello together!

 

There are some artifacts...

 

Cartridge: CXL4017 Pascal

 

Interesting.  That number ended up being reused for the Demo cart.  



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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 8:47 AM

No, Atari Store Demo Cartridge has CXL4019!



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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 8:55 AM

No, Atari Store Demo Cartridge has CXL4019!

Your right, I was looking at a bad list.  What was assigned to 4019 then?  I never saw PASCAL listed on any cartridge list.



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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 11:19 AM

Hi Tempest!

 

As I have written: The "Atari Store Demo Cartridge"

 

Attached File  Atari Store Demo Cartridge CXL4019.bin   16KB   48 downloads

 

Best regards

 

Just a suggestion: Looking at "right" lists, the real McCoy?



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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 11:34 AM

Hi Tempest!

 

As I have written: The "Atari Store Demo Cartridge"

Sorry, typo on my part.   I meant "what was assigned to 4017?"  Was it always PASCAL or did PASCAL take the place of something else?  I ask because I don't recall seeing PASCAL on any old lists.



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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 11:41 AM

Got it from here:

 

http://atariage.com/...re-master-list/

 

Pascal ist missing, because it was never released.

 

But the "real" challenge is this here:

 

Complete list of the Atari Educational System Lesson Cassettes sets Atari made: 17 parts, each many cassettes!

http://www.atarimuse...nu/edu-menu.htm

http://www.atarisour.../collection.htm

 

U.S. History CX6001

U.S. Government CX6002

Supervisory Skills CX6003

World History (Western) CX6004

Basic Sociology CX6005

Counseling Procedures CX6006

(X) Principles of Accounting CX6007

(X) Physics CX6008 ; 4 Cassettes, each 2 sides

Great Classics CX6009

Business Communications CX6010

Basic Psychology CX6011

Effective Writing CX6012

Auto Mechanics CX6013

Principles of Economics CX6014

Spelling CX6015

Basic Electricity CX6016

Basic Algebra CX6017

 

The (X) ones we do have...



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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 12:18 PM

I've got a few of those (complete in box):

 

U.S. History  
U.S. Government 
World History
Physics I
Effective Writing 
Principles of Economics
Spelling    
Basic Algebra 


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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 12:48 PM

Wow! That is great! :-)))

 

Those ones are missing.

 

We plan to make a chapter: Voice & Data on:

 

http://atariwiki.de/...p?page=Articles

 

with this here:

 

1.jpg

 

2.jpg

 

What do think, is a digitizing of your data possible?

 

I mean, it is a little step for you, but a giant leap for the Atari community... ;-)

 

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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 1:54 PM

I'm not sure how I'd go about doing that on my current setup, but I suppose I could always send it to someone to record.  Preferably someone in the US (shipping these overseas would be pricey).



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Posted Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:23 PM

That would be marvelous! :-)))

 

But we should synchronize ourself, so that the work has just to be done once.

 

These 2:

 

 

(X) Principles of Accounting CX6007

(X) Physics CX6008 ; 4 Cassettes, each 2 sides

 

we already have



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Posted Thu Nov 7, 2013 7:10 AM

Cartridge (typ 400/800)

 

CXL4001

Educational System

 

CXL4002

Basic

 

CXL4003

Assembler Editor

 

CXL4004

Basketball

 

CXL4005

Video Easel

 

CXL4006

Super Breakout

 

CXL4007

Music Composer

 

CXL4008

Space Invaders

 

CXL4009

Computer Chess

 

CXL4010

3-D Tic-Tac-Toe

 

CXL4011

Star Riders

 

CXL4012

Missile Command

 

CXL4013

Asteroids

 

CXL4014

Mailing List

 

CXL4015

Telelink I

 

CXL4016

Telelink II

 

CXL4017

Atari 400/800 Store Demo, was first planed for Pascal...

 

CXL4018

Pilot

 

CXL4019

In-Store Demonstration Program

 

CXL4020

Centipede

 

CXL4021

Caverns of Mars

 

CXL4022

Pac-Man

 

CXL4023

Berzerk Prototype

 

CXL4024

Galaxian

 

CXL4025

Defender

 

CXL4026

Dig Dug

 

CXL4027

Qix

CXL4028 Calculator, coming soon from Abbuc, Germany

 

atari-calculator-cart.jpg

 

Best regards



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Posted Thu Nov 7, 2013 8:57 AM

Based on some early sales sheet we saw Super Bug was planned to be one of the first carts for the 800 but was never finished.  Space Invaders eventually went into that slot.  Also Video Easel was originally called Video Life.



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Posted Thu Nov 7, 2013 11:12 AM

:-)))

 

Yes, you are right, only few people know that. 

 

This is why I thought, that maybe the 2 remaining disks I search for:

 

Personal Finance Management System CX8113

Personal Finance Management System CX8114

 

were renamed to Family Finances, but Atari didn't took 2 different CX-numbers for the same software.

 

A software master list of all times would be cool, free to edit for those, who can contribute some knowledge.






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