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[[d2f]Iggy*SJB]

Is there anyone here that also frequents the KLOV forums? I'm looking to become a regular member, and need someone to "vouch" for me. I'm using the name "Iggy" on there.

 

 

[ComputerSpaceFan]

I'm a member, how do I vouch for ya?

 

I am listed as cspacefan on there (KLOV has a limitted number of characters so my full nickname doesn't fit)

[racerx]

You should be good to go.

[Cynicaster]

Why am I not surprised you need to be "vouched for" at that forum...

 

Seriously, what is it with arcade collectors? A few years ago I made the mistake of lurking a bit over at KLOV, naively thinking it might be a cool place to just talk about old arcade games with fellow affable nerd-types. Needless to say, I was disappointed to find that the community comes across as a bunch of dogmatic assholes in the worst good-ol-boys club the internet has ever seen. I never thought I'd actually feel a sense of relief that arcade collecting doesn't interest me, but my lasting impression of KLOV is exactly that.

[ComputerSpaceFan]

I'm a member, how do I vouch for ya?

 

I am listed as cspacefan on there (KLOV has a limitted number of characters so my full nickname doesn't fit)

 

Nevermind I figured it out and have put in a good word for you Iggy.

[[d2f]Iggy*SJB]

Thanks a bunch, guys! I'm in.

[[d2f]Iggy*SJB]

Why am I not surprised you need to be "vouched for" at that forum...

 

Seriously, what is it with arcade collectors? A few years ago I made the mistake of lurking a bit over at KLOV, naively thinking it might be a cool place to just talk about old arcade games with fellow affable nerd-types. Needless to say, I was disappointed to find that the community comes across as a bunch of dogmatic assholes in the worst good-ol-boys club the internet has ever seen. I never thought I'd actually feel a sense of relief that arcade collecting doesn't interest me, but my lasting impression of KLOV is exactly that.

 

Basically, you need to be "validated" to have posting access. There are several ways to do it, one is to have someone already known to "vouch" for you. The other is to make a donation to them. I wouldn't mind going that route, but I'm still unemployed, and money is really tight right now. Hell, I'm still paying off the Super Pac-Man loan I made last month.

I understand why they have the rules in place. I'm a forum moderator on Fortress-Forever.com, and even we have issues with spammers(for a little-known Half Life 2 modification, that's saying something). They just want to make sure that you're there legitimately. I have been lurking on the forums there for a couple of weeks, and honestly haven't noticed what you're describing. However, I haven't seen very much of the forums, so I can't argue with you on that point, either.

 

I do have arcade games, and am working to fix them up(as I can afford to). I have no doubt that KLOV will be a great place to find some of the information I will need to do so. I'm also hoping to meet some new people that are into the same things I am into.

[Mxyzptlk]

Why am I not surprised you need to be "vouched for" at that forum...

 

Seriously, what is it with arcade collectors? A few years ago I made the mistake of lurking a bit over at KLOV, naively thinking it might be a cool place to just talk about old arcade games with fellow affable nerd-types. Needless to say, I was disappointed to find that the community comes across as a bunch of dogmatic assholes in the worst good-ol-boys club the internet has ever seen. I never thought I'd actually feel a sense of relief that arcade collecting doesn't interest me, but my lasting impression of KLOV is exactly that.

Where the hell did that come from? I have been a member there for years and have no clue why you would post that. Give me an example of where we come off as "dogmatic assholes" or "the worst good-ol-boys club the internet has ever seen". Maybe it's just you???? I have seen harsher treatment here than on KLOV. Even new guys get straight forward no-B.S. answers to their questions no matter how silly the question is.

 

EDIT: I have vouched for 3 members here and they are as far as I can tell, are doing well on KLOV.

Edited December 5, 2013 by Mxyzptlk

[Cynicaster]

Where the hell did that come from? I have been a member there for years and have no clue why you would post that. Give me an example of where we come off as "dogmatic assholes" or "the worst good-ol-boys club the internet has ever seen". Maybe it's just you???? I have seen harsher treatment here than on KLOV. Even new guys get straight forward no-B.S. answers to their questions no matter how silly the question is.

 

EDIT: I have vouched for 3 members here and they are as far as I can tell, are doing well on KLOV.

How can it be me if I never registered and never posted? All I’m saying is that I heard about that site somewhere a few years ago when I became interested in arcade games, thought it sounded like a cool forum, and promptly headed over there to check it out. After lurking for a few days, all I saw were pissing matches over trivial things, sarcastic/dismissive treatment of newcomers, obvious cliquey circles of “know-it-alls”, etc.. It’s like, there was this palpable and ubiquitous “code of ethics”—or dogma if you will—looming over the forum on how one must collect, treat, play, sell and talk about arcade games. If you do everything by that book, you’re golden; if not, look out.

 

Maybe I just happened to drop by at a bad time, but KLOV isn’t the only arcade-related site where I’ve seen such things.

 

It’s worth noting that I have three major hobbies in my life currently with others in my past, and I have frequented at least one internet forum for each of those hobbies, sometimes more, and the only forums I have ever felt the inclination to “walk away” from were related somehow to arcade stuff. Coincidence? Maybe, but I’m inclined to doubt it.

 

I admit my comment might have been a bit harsh and might have unfairly painted a large community with a broad brush, but as with most communities, the bad apples are always the ones that leave an impression. I apologize if you were personally offended by what I said, but I’m not just making things up for the good of my health; I’m giving you a candid outsider’s impression of the vibe I got there and elsewhere.

 

I can’t believe you would even compare AtariAge to KLOV in this way. Of all the forums I have frequented in the last 10 years, this one is hands down the most laid back, welcoming, and affable of them all.

Edited December 5, 2013 by Cynicaster

[Mxyzptlk]

How can it be me if I never registered and never posted? All I’m saying is that I heard about that site somewhere a few years ago when I became interested in arcade games, thought it sounded like a cool forum, and promptly headed over there to check it out. After lurking for a few days, all I saw were pissing matches over trivial things, sarcastic/dismissive treatment of newcomers, obvious cliquey circles of “know-it-alls”, etc.. It’s like, there was this palpable and ubiquitous “code of ethics”—or dogma if you will—looming over the forum on how one must collect, treat, play, sell and talk about arcade games. If you do everything by that book, you’re golden; if not, look out.

 

Maybe I just happened to drop by at a bad time, but KLOV isn’t the only arcade-related site where I’ve seen such things.

 

It’s worth noting that I have three major hobbies in my life currently with others in my past, and I have frequented at least one internet forum for each of those hobbies, sometimes more, and the only forums I have ever felt the inclination to “walk away” from were related somehow to arcade stuff. Coincidence? Maybe, but I’m inclined to doubt it.

 

I admit my comment might have been a bit harsh and might have unfairly painted a large community with a broad brush, but as with most communities, the bad apples are always the ones that leave an impression. I apologize if you were personally offended by what I said, but I’m not just making things up for the good of my health; I’m giving you a candid outsider’s impression of the vibe I got there and elsewhere.

 

I can’t believe you would even compare AtariAge to KLOV in this way. Of all the forums I have frequented in the last 10 years, this one is hands down the most laid back, welcoming, and affable of them all.

I have seen a few pissing matches, but Maclemore (however you spell it) keeps a pretty good forum as far as I can tell. The comparing of the 2 forums is just my opinion, they are both great and serve to fuel my 2 hobbies (arcade machines and the 2600). Anyway, give it another chance if you are still interested in the hobby. I will vouch for you if you need it.

[Cynicaster]

I have seen a few pissing matches, but Maclemore (however you spell it) keeps a pretty good forum as far as I can tell. The comparing of the 2 forums is just my opinion, they are both great and serve to fuel my 2 hobbies (arcade machines and the 2600). Anyway, give it another chance if you are still interested in the hobby. I will vouch for you if you need it.

Thanks dude, but I'll take a pass, mostly because I already have too many forums soaking up my time. Again, sorry for how I worded my original post, that could have been done better.

[MaximRecoil]

Why am I not surprised you need to be "vouched for" at that forum...

That's a relatively new thing (within the past few years), and I think it sucks. When I joined in 2003 there was no such requirement. Having hoops to jump through before you can join a forum tends to make it stagnate, i.e., less new members sign up.

 

How can it be me if I never registered and never posted? All I’m saying is that I heard about that site somewhere a few years ago when I became interested in arcade games, thought it sounded like a cool forum, and promptly headed over there to check it out. After lurking for a few days, all I saw were pissing matches over trivial things, sarcastic/dismissive treatment of newcomers, obvious cliquey circles of “know-it-alls”, etc.. It’s like, there was this palpable and ubiquitous “code of ethics”—or dogma if you will—looming over the forum on how one must collect, treat, play, sell and talk about arcade games. If you do everything by that book, you’re golden; if not, look out.

KLOV is an arcade preservation site; it is associated with "VAPS" (Videogame & Arcade Preservation Society), so if you have ideas about arcade machines which run contrary to preservation (for example, you want to turn a classic arcade machine into a MAME machine), you'll generally get boos and hisses over there. There is some hypocrisy though among some of them, such as "Mult-Williams" conversions of a classic Willams arcade machine (usually a Joust or Defender cabinet) are generally met with cheers and applause, even though it is fundamentally no different than converting said cabinet into a MAME machine. I made a thread on that topic a few years ago.

Edited December 17, 2013 by MaximRecoil

[RJ]

Now it seems over on KLOV if you're a lurker you're forced to answer questions about products (mine was Febreze) to even SEE the posts. I only answered one question, then upon seeing Q #2 I thought F this, how far will it go? & decided it's not worth my time. I didnt even think having to pay over there is a good idea, or have a "big brother" say "he's ok", now this.

 

What exactly do they have to hide over there? Even if I was considering being a member of their club, I got turned off by having to answer their grocery survey.

Edited March 20, 2014 by RJ