jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I am hoping the great people here can help me out. I just got ahold of what I thought was a mediocre atari game lot, however at the last minute the guy told me he found a old cartridge that he believed to be a prototype. He worked for a magazine called "Audio Video international" He remembers that at times they sent these out to his company for review to see if it was marketable. I have yet to test it because I cannot get the atari system he sold me to work, but he says it works fine but it has to be an older TV? I have another atari 2600 I have to get out of storage that def worked but I remember it working on my 2002 flatscreen tube TV through the video input and this one does not. Anyways not sure how to get the pics on here but I will describe as best I can. It looks like a prototype (similar to a halloween one I saw online) but what I find interesting is it has telesys on the cartridge (thats the onle thing on the outside besides a typed paper sticker "texas chainsaw massacre" on it) but wasn't Wizard the producer of texas chainsaw masscre? I did open it carefully ,looks like someone else had too as the screws were a bit worn down. in side is a board with two chips, one big one one small. the board says telesys on it followed by TA-42-00. The big chip has D2732A-4, L2463580S, PGM AT 21V and Intel 82 with copyright circle. The little one has a circle design followed by 2H2 4, HD74Ls04p. I know the real game alone is rare so was wondering if I have found a diamond in the ruff and if so what kind of value could I see if I were to sell it, more importantly how many might be in existence and I pray it works! Thank you to anyone who can respond. Jon LOL as I scrolled down I found the pic mdownloader so there it is. I am hoping this is something great. If not its ok, I'll live but be gentle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Cool! There are at least 2 different versions of this game, one being a completely different from the game that was released. We really need to see a screenshot to get a better idea of what this is. Could you post a picture of the underside of the circuit board if you get the chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 So yeah it works! and in the intro it specifically says on the bottom prototype : ) It is the game that actually was sold but I think the colors may be different? So what is the value of this thing? Someone emailed me personally saying maybe $100 for than the real one so $250? That seems low to me. I wouldn't sell it for that i'd rrather keep it, how many do you think there are? I honestly could not find a picture with the same teleysis cartridge anywhere online except for the halloween one. Below are screenshots, anmd you can clearly see the word "prototype at the bottom of the opening screen, was hard to catch it as the title flases on and off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 It is the game that actually was sold but I think the colors may be different? The colors look normal to me. So what is the value of this thing? Someone emailed me personally saying maybe $100 for than the real one so $250? That seems low to me. I wouldn't sell it for that i'd rrather keep it, how many do you think there are? I would imagine several were made originally, but this might be the only copy left in existence. As far as value, you're probably looking at $300-$400...maybe a bit more if someone really wants it. It's certainly worth more than a standard Atari lab loaner, but it is still a prototype of a released game (that doesn't appear significantly different from the final version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ok I merged the two topics. I'm also moving this to the prototype forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 ...but what I find interesting is it has telesys on the cartridge (thats the onle thing on the outside besides a typed paper sticker "texas chainsaw massacre" on it) but wasn't Wizard the producer of texas chainsaw masscre? TCM was published by Wizard, but was developed by VSS (a company started by ex-Apollo employees). Telesys had nothing to do with the game, the developers simply used whatever was available. As I recall, one of the Halloween protos that was found used a Telesys board and shell. The big chip has D2732A-4, L2463580S, PGM AT 21V and Intel 82 with copyright circle. 2732 EPROM (4K) The little one has a circle design followed by 2H2 4, HD74Ls04p. Hex inverter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Oh Tempest, I am new sorry did not know, I thought it was taken down took me a while to find it, I did not know there was a prototype section. Ping, if it may be the only one left wouldn't you think it could go for exorbinently more money just due to the sheer rarity? I have not been able to find a picture anywhere that looks like this one, however yes I did find a identical "halloween" version. I think this may be rarer than we think. But I am new to this so please anyone else that can chime in would be great. I am in no rush to sell and there is also a great story behind this too, I actually know where it came from ORIGINALLY! I will post the story a bit later because its kind of long. Interesting Apollo was mentioned as the story involves them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Oh also got the atari 2600 to work, I noted after seeing my other one that this one I got was different, heavier and made of wood. Wow its the heavy sixer! I never knew there was actually one made out of partially wood, but was easy enough to research. I see they go for $125-150, this ones a bit rough though, but in peoples opinion should I keep the heavy sixer? This lot turned out to be a steal for yes believe it or not only $50, and to think I almost turned it down. I also got 10 boxed games including, Coco nuts, cosmic creeps (i believe thats the name) fast food, and some other more common ones. Easily my best pick ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ping, if it may be the only one left wouldn't you think it could go for exorbinently more money just due to the sheer rarity? I have not been able to find a picture anywhere that looks like this one, however yes I did find a identical "halloween" version. I think this may be rarer than we think. At the end of the day, it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay. Anyone here (or anywhere else) can throw out any random dollar amount, but are they willing to actually pay that much themselves? I gave you what I felt was a ballpark figure, but it's very hard to gauge the price of something like this without actually putting it up for sale and taking offers. Wow its the heavy sixer! I never knew there was actually one made out of partially wood, but was easy enough to research. I see they go for $125-150, this ones a bit rough though, but in peoples opinion should I keep the heavy sixer? Heavy sixers can be had for well under $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Really, I just looked on ebay and seen them going for $150, but yes some more messed up ones go for less. I will probably keep it, was it the first one ever made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Yes ping you are right I may just post it at a rediculous price (that way I know no one will use buy it now, if they do WOW) and see what offfers I get to guage it. I probably plan to do this for a long time and sell the other more common stuff. Would you recommend a place to post it other than ebay to take offers, is there a specific sale place here? Edited January 31, 2014 by jmanley30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 You know I just noticed the large chip they misspelled chainsaw , they wrote "chainsan) lol Does this make it anymore unique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ok a few things: 1. You've found a prototype. That's the good news. The bad news is that it appears to be the same as the released version (won't know for sure until it's dumped), which decreases the value. While it is a prototype of a rare game, that doesn't add all that much value. $300-$400 is a fair estimate. It's not going to be worth the thousands you seem to think it is unless it turns out to be significantly different. 2. Heavy Sixers, while in demand by collectors, are still pretty common. They can be had much less than $100. Just because a few people listed theirs on ebay at $150 doesn't make it worth that much. 3. Chill out! Relax a bit. If you want to get the most for your money, put it up on AA and ask for offers. If those don't tickle your fancy then you can toss it up on ebay at a $300 reserve and see where it goes from there. Ebay does crack down on protos though so that is a bit risky. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm relaxed tempest not sure what you mean, anyways ok so assume dump means sell? $300-400 would be fine, but of course anyone selling something wants to get as much as possible. Where on AA can I post it for offers? Yeah i'd like to see offers. Since I have never played the original I do not know what could be different. Does leather get stuck everytime he runs into things and you have to chainsaw through them before you can move? And does he sometimes chainsaw people and suddenly they appear on the otherside of him unharmed like they walked through him? These things happen on this game cartridge. But everything else seems to work fine. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ok dump from what you say decreases value so I guess it doesn't mean sell, what does it mean? And I would not do that if thats the case I'd rather take the $300-400 and thats a great profit if I decide to sell it its kinda cool to have regardless of price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Man I didn't know protos were prohibited on ebay, but there are so many listed, thats odd. I will have to look into this as I do not want to ruin my reputation with getting a item pulled, I am a top rated power seller with highest buyer ratings, "qualityvideogamesforless" is my username. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Man I didn't know protos were prohibited on ebay, but there are so many listed, thats odd. I will have to look into this as I do not want to ruin my reputation with getting a item pulled, I am a top rated power seller with highest buyer ratings, "qualityvideogamesforless" is my username. Many listed, many pulled down, some go through, luck of the draw........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Where on AA can I post it for offers? Yeah i'd like to see offers. Just start a thread in the Marketplace forum titled "FS/FO: Texas Chainsaw Massacre Prototype". Make sure you add the same photos and screenshots that you posted in this thread. Since I have never played the original I do not know what could be different. Does leather get stuck everytime he runs into things and you have to chainsaw through them before you can move? Yes. And does he sometimes chainsaw people and suddenly they appear on the otherside of him unharmed like they walked through him? Yes. Ok dump from what you say decreases value so I guess it doesn't mean sell, what does it mean? "Dumping" a prototype is a process which involves extraction and backup of the ROM contents. The binary file can then be examined and compared to the released version to determine coding differences which may not be readily apparent just looking at the game. Dumping a cartridge alone will not affect its value, but releasing the binary might. In a case like this, it really won't make a huge difference either way, because the game is unlikely to be significantly different from the final version. Its only real novelty (and source of value) is the fact that it's on an original Telesys prototype board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thanks everyone, for now I am still going to research this some more before I decide to sell. I was also advised that it in fact is not prohibited to list prototype games on ebay especially if it s a non existant company like wizard or telesys. Nowhere in their prehibited list are prototypes listed, if anyone DOES have a link to p[rove that let me know. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 How do I add more pics as I took some more of the screen shots and the cartridge. I do not have a hosting site I want to upload from my computer like I did the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I was also advised that it in fact is not prohibited to list prototype games on ebay especially if it s a non existant company like wizard or telesys. Nowhere in their prehibited list are prototypes listed, if anyone DOES have a link to p[rove that let me know. Thanks It is officially against eBay rules, but its enforcement is inconsistent. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/software.html Beta software can't be listed on eBay. These are early copies of software distributed by software developers strictly for the purpose of evaluation and troubleshooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Oh also got the atari 2600 to work, I noted after seeing my other one that this one I got was different, heavier and made of wood. Wow its the heavy sixer! I never knew there was actually one made out of partially wood, Just An FYI the Heavy sixer isn't made of wood. It has a ridiculous amount of RF shielding inside that makes it's so heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Oh thanks 181, felt kind of like wood but was not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thanks everyone, for now I am still going to research this some more before I decide to sell. Well, that didn't take long... eBay Auction -- Item Number: 141181268658 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmanley30 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Its a test, I may not keep it up if it doesn't look good. So far its taking off though for only 14 hrs, but I have the right to take it down up to 12 hrs before it ends if I don't think it will sell for what I want. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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