Rick Dangerous Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So I'm a long time Nintendo collector, and new to the Jag scene, so feel free to berate me for asking a stupid question, and banish me forever, but why has no one been able to release Battlesphere Gold for the Jag CD? It seems like there are plenty of people who want to play it, and not enough copies to go around. Wouldn't it make sense to do a Jag CD release? I'd snap it right up and I'm sure a few hundred other people would as well.... And I'm sorry I don't want to play it on an emulator! I want to play it on the Jag! I just don't care if it's on a cart or on a CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 The gold needed would be worth less than the original release on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto1980 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 technicaly i dont know if its possible ... would be if the game just runs in memory with no need for cart rom but i think the developers left the jagscene.. long time no see so noone could change the code for a cd release sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 technicaly i dont know if its possible ... would be if the game just runs in memory with no need for cart rom but i think the developers left the jagscene.. long time no see so noone could change the code for a cd release sad But didn't they buy the unfinished game from someone else, finish it, and release it themselves? I'm surprised no one has tracked them down for the game to re-release on CD. I doubt it would take much to mod to put on a CD and anyone who has a Jag wants a copy...Just not sure why no one has looked into it, was hoping someone might know something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 But didn't they buy the unfinished game from someone else, finish it, and release it themselves? I'm surprised no one has tracked them down for the game to re-release on CD. I doubt it would take much to mod to put on a CD and anyone who has a Jag wants a copy...Just not sure why no one has looked into it, was hoping someone might know something about it. Nope Scatologic made it themselves and they aren't going to make a CD version. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto1980 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 think its not very simple coded game. very individual 3d engine maybe... and as i told you if it just takes some data from module-ram while playing you have big problems this game was released by the developers and only they got the source .. does anyone knof if they are still around? the coders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 This topic has been discussed ad nauseum here before, so you can do a search and find out more. Essentially, the cartridge is 4MB in size, but the Jag CD uses the Jag's 2MB of RAM. The game would have to be completely re-written to run off a CD, and the developers of BattleSphere have made it very clear they have no intention (to put it mildly) of doing further work in the Jaguar scene. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
108 Stars Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 This topic has been discussed ad nauseum here before, so you can do a search and find out more. Essentially, the cartridge is 4MB in size, but the Jag CD uses the Jag's 2MB of RAM. The game would have to be completely re-written to run off a CD, and the developers of BattleSphere have made it very clear they have no intention (to put it mildly) of doing further work in the Jaguar scene. And to add to that in case that's what the OP would ask next: Neither do they have any intention to produce more cartridges or let somebody else do a rerelease. At least that's the ladt I heard. If you want to play BS you have to pay the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 And to add to that in case that's what the OP would ask next: Neither do they have any intention to produce more cartridges or let somebody else do a rerelease. At least that's the ladt I heard. If you want to play BS you have to pay the asking price. That's what makes it odd to me. I'm just not sure I understand the reason WHY they won't let someone else make new copies of it? I mean, they could essentially hand everything over to Carl Foran at Songbird Productions and then say... just give us a 20% royalty and cut us a check at the end of the month, and I'm sure it would sell pretty decent. It wouldn't be unreasonable to pay $100 bucks for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 There is no 'reasonable' where this issue is concerned. The authors have said it won't happen. Respect their wishes. It wouldn't be unreasonable to pay $100 bucks for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 There is no 'reasonable' where this issue is concerned. The authors have said it won't happen. Respect their wishes. That sounds foolhardy. There's always that potential for them to change their minds if they feel there is enough demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
108 Stars Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I must give the devs one thing though: In the years of development it seems they have refined the AI and accuracy so much that even the first level is almost unbeatable without practice. I played it once, and I was utterly destroyed. Which is not a good thing in game design, but hey, at least it shows the enemy is no cannon fodder.^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarGod Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I must give the devs one thing though: In the years of development it seems they have refined the AI and accuracy so much that even the first level is almost unbeatable without practice. I played it once, and I was utterly destroyed. Which is not a good thing in game design, but hey, at least it shows the enemy is no cannon fodder.^^ The game is definitely difficult, but it can be mastered with A LOT of practice. I consider myself lucky that I was able to order the game (original and Gold releases) when they were originally sold from Scatologic/4Play. I would hate to pay the asking prices on eBay for them now. But I have always loved the game. I did a video for the game way, way back that included a thrash/death metal band I was working with at the time as they liked it too and wanted to make something for it. If I can find it I will post it. Not that anyone cares and no one asked for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I think it's a decent game. I think that AATE is too tough, but I always play the Gauntlet mode, and I find that quite enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I must give the devs one thing though: In the years of development it seems they have refined the AI and accuracy so much that even the first level is almost unbeatable without practice. That's usually called 'not play tested' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I've never opened my copy of BS:G. I have to say that it was great fun being put on that order list...waiting for updates...and then finally getting it and the Scatbox in the mail. Maybe I'm just warped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Whenever I see a reference to Scatbox I automatically play this back in my head: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Okay well that pretty much answers my question. Sorry to all the vets on here who had to go through this again. My understanding is that it's possible, but the creators don't want it to happen, for whatever reason. A shame, but it is what it is. On a side note just ordered the Jagware Collection, Kobayashi Maru, Pac Man Collection 7800, Space invaders 7800, and Halo 2600 from the shop here. Absolutely stoked to rip those open and play them all night!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 That sounds foolhardy. There's always that potential for them to change their minds if they feel there is enough demand. You have much to learn padawan. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If the game is going for ~$400 on eBay and sells out immediately, surely demand outweighs supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 If the game is going for ~$400 on eBay and sells out immediately, surely demand outweighs supply? Do some research on the subject. I really don't care to get into it again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 'Search' is your friend. This is a subject that tends to end up in locked threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) I did search before starting this thread and there really wasn't much concrete on it in the threads or anywhere online. Just a lot of "you can't get it anymore," and "It's real expensive like on ebay." I think there is a lot of stuff veteran's know but It's not really down anywhere solid on the web.. But yes using search not a bad idea anytime before starting a thread! Edited February 13, 2014 by travistouchdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Summary: The development team for BattleSphere did not get along well with some others, causing a lot of friction and dozens (hundreds?) of flamewar threads, here and elsewhere. It all ended in misery and they have left the Jaguar scene. They've made it very clear they are not returning, and not intereseted in doing anymore in the Jaguar scene or releasing any more items. Done, fini. It is unlikely to ever be produced again. If you really want it, your only option is eBay at a few hundred bucks a pop. If you really want to know what Battlesphere is like, there are lots of videos on Youtube. It's essentially 8-bit Star Raiders on 3D steroids. Technically it is very impressive. Gameplay-wise, it is not everyone's cup of tea. I happen to have a copy I bought years ago, and I enjoy it - but frankly I think there are a couple of better games in the Jaguar library. For example, I think Tempest 2000 is a better game, and you can buy that for $30... Edited February 13, 2014 by ls650 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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