MyIDE II and Ultimate 2K14 Lotharek

[Marius]

1) I will try what happens here when I first create partitions with the F2 that is shipped with the MyIDE2 and then look what happen here with the rom i sent you, and you installed in ultimate. Perhaps there is an incompatibility with these 2.

 

2) In the last movie you try to load MYBIOS while MyBIOS is already active in ultimate. That is not possible. You should have chosen MyDOS rescue instead there, and not again MyBIOS. You can not have AND mybios in ROM (Ultimate) AND MyBIOS from the workbook.

 

I'll test some things for you.

 

My question for you is now: could you start with another CF card (do the setup disk again) and create a few partitions with the Ultimate MyBIOS ROM. Do never use the MyBIOS from the workbook in that process. (So no F2 on your screen!)

[Marius]

It works fine here.

 

I'm really interested in the following things:

 

1) If you boot with the ultimate 1MB MyBIOS, and when you see the Welcome screen of MyBIOS, you press START+SELECT+OPTION ... what do you see then?

 

2) What happens if you start over with a new CF card?

 

3) What happens if you follow these steps:

 

* Enable MyBIOS in Ultimate 1MB (with Save and all that)

* Switch on Atari with MyIDE II cart + cf card insert

* Press SHIFT on welcome screen

* Chose MyDOS rescue loader now (option 4 in menu)

* Press HELP (make a picture of that screen please)

* Look at which partitions you have, and see what drive number they have (remember the crashy one)

* Exit menu, don't save anything

* Now type the drive number you remembered and see what happens

* Try to write DOS again to that drive with option H.

 

If that does not solve it, try again but in stead of this last step do this:

 

* Chose option O (Chance Config), type the remembered drive number, Type N (not remove), Type Y (configurable), type Y (high capacity), type Drive Size (sectors)

* When done, now type I for reformat (Beware: this erases data!)

* Now repeat step H and try to write DOS.

 

If that was succesful try to boot this partition now (you have to put it on D1: if you did not have that already).

[Stefan Both]

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My question for you is now: could you start with another CF card (do the setup disk again) and create a few partitions with the Ultimate MyBIOS ROM. Do never use the MyBIOS from the workbook in that process. (So no F2 on your screen!)

Yes, I will test another CF Card. Prepare it without using the workbook.

Let s see...

If it doesn t help, I will grab my second XL from our attic.

But I have to unsolder the ICs and solder the sockets on the board first.

Than we could exclude a damaged XL.

 

Stefan

[Marius]

Yes, I will test another CF Card. Prepare it without using the workbook.

Let s see...

If it doesn t help, I will grab my second XL from our attic.

But I have to unsolder the ICs and solder the sockets on the board first.

Than we could exclude a damaged XL.

 

Stefan

 

Probably not a damaged XL.

 

Please follow steps above. Could be anything... even an incompatible CF card, although I did not had that happen yet with MyIDE 2.

[Stefan Both]

It works fine here.

 

I'm really interested in the following things:

 

1) If you boot with the ultimate 1MB MyBIOS, and when you see the Welcome screen of MyBIOS, you press START+SELECT+OPTION ... what do you see then?

 

2) What happens if you start over with a new CF card?

 

3) What happens if you follow these steps:

 

* Enable MyBIOS in Ultimate 1MB (with Save and all that)

* Switch on Atari with MyIDE II cart + cf card insert

* Press SHIFT on welcome screen

* Chose MyDOS rescue loader now (option 4 in menu)

* Press HELP (make a picture of that screen please)

* Look at which partitions you have, and see what drive number they have (remember the crashy one)

* Exit menu, don't save anything

* Now type the drive number you remembered and see what happens

* Try to write DOS again to that drive with option H.

 

If that does not solve it, try again but in stead of this last step do this:

 

* Chose option O (Chance Config), type the remembered drive number, Type N (not remove), Type Y (configurable), type Y (high capacity), type Drive Size (sectors)

* When done, now type I for reformat (Beware: this erases data!)

* Now repeat step H and try to write DOS.

 

If that was succesful try to boot this partition now (you have to put it on D1: if you did not have that already).

 

It's too late today - my family is already sleeping.

When I come back from the doc, I'll test what you mentioned above

make shots and tell you about.

 

Thank you

 

Stefan

[Marius]

@Stefan

 

Take your time. We will fix this anyway. Could take some time to find where it goes wrong, but we'll fix it!

 

I hope everything will be fine with the eyes!

[Roydea6]

 

That depends on what the current MyBIOS version you are using now, and what the start cylinder is of your partition.

 

If you are still using the old MyIDE 3.x system I'm not sure what will happen.

 

This setupdisk is especially for MyIDE 1, but also works with MyIDE 2 though.

 

But if you don't mind starting over: yes this also works with MyIDE 1 yes.

So use the ROM in the MYBIOS.ATR and use the setupdisk. That is the latest available version of R1, which works extremely well.

There are only some minor issues, but I have been using this version for a year now and it works great.

Yes I has worked fine with the MyIDE I carts from AtariMax.com and the pre MyIDE carts I got from Mr. Atari work if I redo D1: partition..

[Stefan Both]

I er... I hm... I´m an idiot.

While testing another CF card, I realized that the C H S settings

are a little bit strange. So I compared the settings MyBios detected (3884/16/63),

with the information my linux computer told me (3909/16/63).

Start now with the sequence described above.

 

Stefan

[Marius]

I er... I hm... I´m an idiot.

While testing another CF card, I realized that the C H S settings

are a little bit strange. So I compared the settings MyBios detected (3884/16/63),

with the information my linux computer told me (3909/16/63).

Start now with the sequence described above.

 

Stefan

 

Best is to let MyIDE autodetect. These settings are not so important for Flash Media since they make no sense at all, and are only important to calculate size of medium. The built-in controller in the CF card takes care of these settings. But in case MyIDE auto detects it, you can be sure MyIDE knows how to handle the card.

[Stefan Both]

Ok. Lets start over.

I used a different CF Card. In Ultimate MyBios I press Start Option Select.
MYIDEMenu:
(I)nit, Manual
CHS [A]utodetection (Wait)
Create FAT32? [Y]es
create APT [N]
Move Imagestart [Enter]
720/1440 Imagesize [Enter]
Warning, erase partitions [Y]es
......

Warning, erase Images [Y]es
....

[M]ake
Drive [A] SIZE [65535] DENS [D] NAME [MYDOS]
[M]ake
Drive SIZE [65535] DENS [D] NAME [WORK]

[C]hange
Partition [A] Drive [2]
[C]hange
Partition Drive [3]

[ESC]
Save [Y]

UltimateMyBios is shown
Switch Off

Switch 1050 on (Set to D1). Insert Setup Disk. close Door.
Switch on Atari -> UltimateMyBios hit [space]
Drive is starting - drive stops,
Message: setup done remove disk and reboot

Switch all off, remove disk, remove Sio cabel, switch on XL
SEE SEQUENCE http://www.datentraegerkonvertierung.de/Gast/crash1.flv
Ultimate MyBios press [shift] (MyIde is shown) try to reach
rescue loader with cursor Keys- crash

Switch xl off....Again
See: http://www.datentraegerkonvertierung.de/Gast/crash2.flv
Switch on, press [sHIFT]
Use Joystick to go to rescue loader and press button
MyDos starts but... uuhhh ohhh... crash.



I'm really interested in the following things:

1) If you boot with the ultimate 1MB MyBIOS, and when you see the Welcome screen of MyBIOS, you press START+SELECT+OPTION ... what do you see then?
--> I see the MYIDE settings.
2) What happens if you start over with a new CF card?
--> Whatever CF I use, same procedure
3) What happens if you follow these steps:

* Enable MyBIOS in Ultimate 1MB (with Save and all that)

* Switch on Atari with MyIDE II cart + cf card insert

* Press SHIFT on welcome screen

* Chose MyDOS rescue loader now (option 4 in menu)
--> Crash

No chance to follow the rest of the steps..

Stefan

[Marius]

Just a question… do you have Skype or something? We might figure out live what is going wrong…

 

Just have to go to eat, but I think I will have some new tests/ideas for you this night.

[Stefan Both]

Yes, I´m on skype.

Send you Name by PN.

 

Stefan

[Marius]

Hi Stefan,

 

Have been thinking... you have Ultimate from Lotharek 2014. I have that one too, but not installed yet.

 

There might be a slight chance that we need a newer version of the flasher for that one (not sure ... not sure ...)

 

So created a NEW disk for you. Perhaps this one works better.

 

It's pretty amazing what happens there. Looks really like some kind of hardware conflict indeed. First let us be 100% sure that flashing went right.

 

So here is new disk, with latest version of UFLASH.XEX ... please detach myide cart, and switch to default XL/XE OS and enable SDX in Ultimate.

Then boot atari with this disk on D1: and when you see D1: type UFLASH.XEX and follow same instructions as last time.

 

It looks like a problem I had in february 2013 with MyIDE ][ (when did you buy your cartridge?) ... there was a firmware upgrade for that thing somewhere in march 2013. There is a thread on AtariMax about MyIDE Stresstest.

 

It resulted -unfortunately- in some kind of flamewar, but in the end Tucker and Mr. Atari could reproduce the problem and fixed it with a firmware upgrade. If your MyIDE is from early 2013 you might not have this update. On most situations you don't have problem, but it is a timing-thing (MMU and Antic related) since you have Ultimate 1MB you do not have original MMU anymore in your atari.

 

I hope we can fix this. If you could tell me what date your MyIDE ][ is from, and it is from begin 2013, I could update Firmware for you (I think it is cheaper to send it to Netherlands than to USA).

 

But first let us make sure that we tested anything.

 

Greetz

 

[Stefan Both]

Dear Prowizard,

I´ll test the new ATR this evening.

I bought the MyIDE in end of 2013.

If everyting goes wrong, we could have a look

at this.

It is still possible, that I soldered one of the

four stripes of the U1Mb to a wrong pin.

(Don´t think so - but the eye doctor... hmmm...)

 

It could be even cheaper, if I bring you the hole

system instead of sending the MyIde by mail.

I cant stay closer to the netherlands indeed...

Have you ever been in Nordhorn There was the

"classic-computing" in 2006.

 

Greetings

Stefan

[Marius]

Well you are welcome here.

 

So if everything else fails you can come over to me.

 

Late 2013... hmm should be working firmware then.

[Stefan Both]

Beware: Totally offtopic...

 

Well you are welcome here.

 

And it´s easy to find too

I asked a dutch guy right behind the border...

He said: "you can´t miss it !!! Just drive straight ahead

for about 400 miles...."

And to stress that old joke between the both countries to the max:

I´ll give you my bike as a replacement for ... no.. that´s too evil...

Maybe I´ll give Mr. Atari a cab then and we have a tea.

Totally offtopic... END

 

But let´s try all the other things first.

 

Stefan

[Stefan Both]

Huuu, it doesn´t look nice at all. No matter what kind of disk

I use, the computer freezes after loading Uflash.xex while

I try to select the bios for flashing.

Sometimes earlier, sometimes later, when flashing starts.

 

When I start DSX (Ultimate) - sometimes it´s detecting

a ram disk, sometimes not. ?!

 

I will double check the hardware mod. If I can´t find a failure,

I´ll change the board with my second XL, and start all over.

The problem doesn´t seems to be the gameplay between

MyIDE and Ultimate. Even without the MyIDE I´ve problems

loading some programs from disk.

So I guess starting over is not a bad idea.

 

I´ll report as soon as I´ve changed the boards.

If there is no difference then, I need your "help in person".

 

Thanks for your support so far.

 

Stefan

Edited February 20, 2014 by Stefan Both

[Marius]

Hmmm that does not sound so good indeed.

 

But SDX does only mention the ramdisk when there was a reboot (then it says that the ramdisk content was preserved or something like that).

 

But crashing is not good. When you write the floppy disks back to your 1050 with the 1050-2-PC interface, is there a feature that you can verify the disk is indeed written right?

[Stefan Both]

Yes, It´s written with verify option.

Never had a problem with that.

I also changed the 1050-2-pc to the other floppy

(just 7 pins). Same thing when I use the other floppy for reading disks.

But dont worry. I just need another weekend to unsolder the ICs and

put sockets into the board.

If it works then, I´ve time enough to make the S-Video mod too...

 

Stefan

[MEtalGuy66]

Why in the HELL would you buy a MyIDE II rather than a sIDE 2 ?

[phoenixdownita]

Likely because like me he first bought a MyIDE2 (which as your only CF cart is better than SIDE2) then got more appetite and chose to buy U1MB hoping they would work smooth together, which they almost do but not quite.

 

I bought U1MB + SIDE2 at once after MyIDE2 second guessing that that would be the best configuration as I have no SIO devices, also SIDE2 works his best with U1MB.

 

Without U1MB buying SIDE2 is not that great compared to MyIDE2, and if you buy U1MB after the fact you really don't want a second CF cart ... or do you?

[Marius]

Why in the HELL would you buy a MyIDE II rather than a sIDE 2 ?

Ah it is you again... Just coming in only for contributing that? Really impressive ... You must be the pride of the atari scene.

[Marius]

@phoenix

 

I have zero problems with my seven myide 2 carts and ultimate 1mb.

 

Could you describe a step by step which I can repeat here so I can see for myself that myide 2 and u1mb won't play nicely together?

[flashjazzcat]

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Edited February 21, 2014 by flashjazzcat

[marcokitt2000]

Keep the good working here

 

Greetings to you all atari friends.

 

ProWizzard : Wat kan je met myide2 en u1mb board ? is het nodig ? als ik alleen 800xl/xe gebruik met 1050 mini speedy lees nu mee vind het interessant.

Sorry mijn engels beetje bagger beetje old scool computer engels hahahahha.