HELP! I have a question about the 1010 cassette player

[segasaturn]

I recently bought a 1010 cassette player with all the cables etc,. Plugged it in, it played fine/fast forward, rewind, etc,. But the problem is it wont show any video! I got 2 cassette tapes for it. Introduction to sound and introduction to basic/programming. The audio plays perfect. I can hear and listen to the cassette, but the problem I have is that there NO VIDEO what so ever. Am I doing something wrong? any suggestions would be helpful! Thanks in advance.

[Bryan]

Umm... the 1010 doesn't produce video. You mean the program never starts?

 

Here's a video of someone loading the program:

 

 

What's happening when you try it?

[segasaturn]

I HEAR the program.....The audio part of it plays fine.....I don't get the video end of it, if that makes sense.

[segasaturn]

Here is basically what it's doing....forget the errors. They are my fault. and no not during cloud like I said they are completely my fault. spelling, etc,.

IMG_0084.MOV

Edited March 29, 2014 by segasaturn

[Bryan]

Do you get an error message during CLOAD?

[segasaturn]

I posted a video. Check it out maybe that explains it better

[+orpheuswaking]

Stupid Question... Are you starting at the beginning of the tape?

[segasaturn]

Don't worry, I'm new to atari 8bit so no question is stupid. But yes...I am. That's why I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. As you can see in the video....its being weird.

[Bryan]

1. If you rewind the tape, type CLOAD, press PLAY then ENTER, and you get an error, you must rewind the tape before you try again.

2. Atari tapes are stereo and use one channel for data and the other for the soundtrack. If you get an error, the tape will continue running and playing audio even though there is no loading going on.

 

The errors you're getting look like 138 (Device Timeout - the computer waited too long for the start of data) and 140 (Serial Error - bad data).

 

It's fairly common for the rubber belts to stretch and fail on these old devices and the 1010 may be unreliable until they are changed.

[segasaturn]

I thought if the belt went, it wouldn't play at all? Also if that's the case is there a way to fix it without changing the belt. The thing is, it plays, FF, rewinds, etc fine so that's what I'm confused about. And finally, if I really do somehow have to change the belt, what belt do I buy to fix my error/who do I see to fix it?

[RickR]

Do this:

 

- Rewind the tape.

- Turn the Atari off.

- While holding down "Start", turn the computer on.

- You'll here the "beep" that means press play. Press play and hit enter.

[+orpheuswaking]

Do this:

 

- Rewind the tape.

- Turn the Atari off.

- While holding down "Start", turn the computer on.

- You'll here the "beep" that means press play. Press play and hit enter.

 

I'm fairly certain that the Invitation to programming lessons have to be loaded with CLOAD

[+Ripdubski]

I thought if the belt went, it wouldn't play at all? Also if that's the case is there a way to fix it without changing the belt. The thing is, it plays, FF, rewinds, etc fine so that's what I'm confused about. And finally, if I really do somehow have to change the belt, what belt do I buy to fix my error/who do I see to fix it?

If the belt is stretched or otherwise loose, the speed may be off or it may tug occasionally. It could be the tape is bad, they dont last forever.

[segasaturn]

I tried both tapes and they do the same thing. both sides. Here is another video split into 4 parts....sorry iPad.....if only Atari made a tablet watch the video and hopefully this explains it more. thanks again for everyones help.

PArt 1.MOV

PArt 3.MOV

Edited March 30, 2014 by segasaturn

[segasaturn]

the other two parts......

part 2.MOV

part 4.MOV

[russg]

I tried both tapes and they do the same thing. both sides. Here is another video split into 4 parts....sorry iPad.....if only Atari made a tablet watch the video and hopefully this explains it more. thanks again for everyones help.

From what I can figure, you're starting to load the BASIC program, the brrrrrrrt......brrrrrrt it is loading. Here's the way it should go.

1. at the BASIC READY prompt type CLOAD RETURN.

(you have the tape rewound, and maybe forward a little) Hit PLAY on the 1010, you do this before typing CLOAD RETURN.

2. It should go BEEP (or BEEP BEEP I forget) and you hit RETURN again. The tape starts turning. Actually, I don't remember if CLOAD makes a BEEP, CLOAD RETURN may start the tape turning without a BEEP RETURN.

Anyhow, if the tape doesn't start turning, hit RETURN, if it starts turning, leave it alone.

It should have a quiet lead in of maybe, five seconds before you get the brrrt brrrt starting. Nothing on the screen happens.

3. It starts loading and you get the brrrt brrrt of it loading. This beeping takes, maybe, a minute or two.

4. When the brrrrt brrrt stops, it is loaded. Nothing happens, it just stops brrrt brrrt. The tape stops turning.

5. At this point, you can type LIST RETURN and it should show you the LISTED BASIC. Some, probably in your case, you can't LIST it and maybe you will lock up and have to start over.

6. So DON't type LIST RETURN.

7. Type RUN RETURN. It may take a few seconds to initialize and your program should come up.

8. I'm not familiar with that particular tape program, So, I'm not real sure what will happen when you type RUN RETURN.

 

(above is for BASIC SAVEd programs, machine language boot tapes, is different. Rewind and press PLAY. For those you hold OPTION and START when you power on and get a BEEP and

hit RETURN and it loads and runs without any further effort. Holding OPTION disables BASIC and holding START tells the computer to load a tape.)

You have to get used to the amount of lead-in you need. Too much lead-in and it won't start successfully, same with too little lead-in.

 

OH, shoot. Some tapes may load and run from a RUN "C:". and there's LISTed BASIC programs, but you aren't going to have those on a commercial tape.

Edited March 30, 2014 by russg

[segasaturn]

Of my god. Thank you so much Russ! I typed run and it worked! Thanks again. I figured it was something simple.

[russg]

Of my god. Thank you so much Russ! I typed run and it worked! Thanks again. I figured it was something simple.

Glad to get you going. I remember now. A BEEP is to push the PLAY button and hit RETURN to load a program. A BEEP BEEP is to push RECORD and PLAY to record something. So CSAVE RETURN should SAVE your

BASIC program you wrote. You push PLAY and RECORD after you get a BEEP BEEP then hit RETURN to start the tape recording.

Edited March 30, 2014 by russg

[Bryan]

I'm curious why there was audio playing if segasaturn simply forgot to type RUN. The cassette player should STOP once the CLOAD is finished (regardless of whether the PLAY button is pressed). If it keeps running, there is a problem.

[fibrewire]

Of my god. Thank you so much Russ! I typed run and it worked! Thanks again. I figured it was something simple.

 

looks like the program was already loaded, which is why CLOAD failed with an error and continued to play.

 

After loading a basic program, you can test if it loaded by typing LIST and pressing the return key. It should list the program that was loaded.

 

CSAVE saves to cassette

CLOAD loads from cassette

LIST lists the program

RUN runs the program

 

How to use Atari BASIC - http://www.atariarchives.org/basic/showpage.php?page=1

Edited March 31, 2014 by fibrewire

[russg]

I'm curious why there was audio playing if segasaturn simply forgot to type RUN. The cassette player should STOP once the CLOAD is finished (regardless of whether the PLAY button is pressed). If it keeps running, there is a problem.

I think the audio he was talking about was the brrrt brrrt sounds of a tape loading. You have to push PLAY, nothing will happen without it pushed, or it will go BLLLLT and error out.

Edited March 31, 2014 by russg

[Bryan]

I think the audio he was talking about was the brrrt brrrt sounds of a tape loading. You have to push PLAY, nothing will happen without it pushed, or it will go BLLLLT and error out.

Ah, that makes sense.