Tempest Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I apologize in advance if these questions have been answered elsewhere. I did a quick search, but I could have missed something. I installed my Incognito board last year and played around with it for a bit before real life hit and I had to put it away for a bit. Now I have more time to spend with it, but I've been out of the loop and forgotten a few things, so I have a few questions: 1. Was the firmware updated? If so, how do I update it? Is it just one firmware update for the whole board or are there separate updates for each of the features like SIDE? 2. Can the SIDE loader support rom files yet or is it sill just disk and XEX files? I'm looking for a way to get all my cartridges onto the Incognito so I can put them away. 3. Assuming I can ever get my hands on one, can the VBXE be used with the Incognito? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 1. Yes it was, and you'll need a suitable JTAG cable and (free) software on the PC to install it. Most recent fix was to enable BIOS update flasher to run from XEX loader, so if that's not essential to you, the upgrade might not be critical. A single logic update takes care of the whole board. 2. It's "just" ATRs and executables. 3. If you can figure out a way to fit a VBXE into in 800, then yes, it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 I guess I'll have to find someone local with a JTAG cable then. Thanks for the info. Sorry about the "just" comment, I didn't mean any offense. SIDE is a great piece of software. I was just hoping that I could load BIN and ROM files since the 800 can't use a My IDE II and the MaxFlash cart doesn't support 16K roms. Is there another solution other than trying to find working XEX versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Don't some of the new "Mega" carts permit the creation of massive multi-cart workbooks with menus? I'm not too sure, TBH: I don't always keep up with these things. The one thing I found impressive about MyIDE II was the way it can run a cart ROM image from disk - it's a handy feature. I think Candle was pondering the cart question a while back, but since requests for cart handling have been few and far between and since (it's been asserted) there are XEX versions of "most" titles, I have no idea whether anything will happen in that department. You'd better check the JTAG pinouts, since there are lots of different variations and you want to get the right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 I think Candle was pondering the cart question a while back, but since requests for cart handling have been few and far between and since (it's been asserted) there are XEX versions of "most" titles, I have no idea whether anything will happen in that department. I've found XEX versions of most of the games, but I haven't had a chance to try them all in depth and I've had several that looked like they worked and crashed after playing for a bit. Of course then there all my prototype roms that have never been converted to XEX. Don't some of the new "Mega" carts permit the creation of massive multi-cart workbooks with menus? Maybe. I've only looked into the AtariMax stuff. Is there any in particular you can point me to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Maybe. I've only looked into the AtariMax stuff. Is there any in particular you can point me to? http://atariage.com/forums/topic/215811-thecart-new-128mb-flash-cartridge/ The last cart you'll ever need Yes, that's 128MB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/215811-thecart-new-128mb-flash-cartridge/ The last cart you'll ever need Yes, that's 128MB. Does it work on the 800? I see a few posts that say no. I love my 800 and all, but I'm starting to wonder if I'd be better off getting a My IDE II and using my 800XL instead. The Incognito almost seems like too much power since I mostly play cartridge games with a handful of disk titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Does it work on the 800? I see a few posts that say no. You know I never tried it in the 800 until now, and it does not in fact appear to work. Boo. That PHI2/RAS modification to the 800 might cure that problem, but I'm not opening my 800 for that right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Westphal Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Where is the site to purchase Incognito? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Where is the site to purchase Incognito? No such site exists. It's on pre-order, here. Edited April 17, 2014 by flashjazzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Tempest, cardridge support was added a year ago - it's of limited use, as i said before - mostly to the copy protection code rom versions tends to have, but at least you cal load 8/16k images - i've patched some of those you've sent me while back, but not too many. I belive newest loader version there is has Jon, so squeez him a bit so he woul release it, since i really dont know when i'll some spare time - right now i'm doing best i can to ship 3rd run of incognito boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Tempest, cardridge support was added a year ago - it's of limited use, as i said before - mostly to the copy protection code rom versions tends to have, but at least you cal load 8/16k images - i've patched some of those you've sent me while back, but not too many. I belive newest loader version there is has Jon, so squeez him a bit so he woul release it, since i really dont know when i'll some spare time - right now i'm doing best i can to ship 3rd run of incognito boards I'm not trying to pressure you to do anything or complaining about lack of features, sorry if it came off like that. I was merely asking about it. If this is something that will be added in the future I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I belive newest loader version there is has Jon, so squeez him a bit so he woul release it, since i really dont know when i'll some spare time - right now i'm doing best i can to ship 3rd run of incognito boards OK, but can you re-send the most recent builds (including ROM builds for Incognito and Ultimate, stand-alone XEX version and SIDE/SIDE2 ROM versions)? I have SIDE loaders littered around all over the place from our troubleshooting sessions, and I don't want to rely on time-stamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 One last question. I seem to recall that the Incognito configuration screen had an issue where it was displaying in PAL or something like that and the bottom text was cut off (the time and date). Was this fixed in the latest update? It's not an issue since I can adjust my monitor as needed, I just seem to remember something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 in ntsc - perhaps not in pal - that's for sure if there is an issue - i would need picture of real setup displaying this screen, as currently i have no access to ntsc unit at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Someone get this man an NTSC 800! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Or NTSC GTIA, Antic and master crystal, which would probably do for testing. I belive newest loader version there is has Jon, so squeez him a bit so he woul release it, since i really dont know when i'll some spare time - right now i'm doing best i can to ship 3rd run of incognito boards Well, since I haven't been sent anything or told otherwise, I'll assume SIDE loader builds I have are most recent, so I'll upload this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 1. Yes it was, and you'll need a suitable JTAG cable and (free) software on the PC to install it. Most recent fix was to enable BIOS update flasher to run from XEX loader, so if that's not essential to you, the upgrade might not be critical. A single logic update takes care of the whole board. Hmm... I just re-read this. So if I get this update I'd be able to do future updates from an XEX file? Or am I not reading that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hmm... I just re-read this. So if I get this update I'd be able to do future updates from an XEX file? Or am I not reading that right? Correct. However, the only XEX updates currently available - to my knowledge - are my PBI BIOS update and the Incognito BIOS update Candle posted somewhere a while back. What the CPLD update coupled with the forthcoming SIDE loader update does enable you to do is put UFLASH and all your ROMs on the FAT partition of a CF card, run UFLASH direct from the loader, and the load and flash the ROMs right off the FAT. You can thus chop and change ROM slots to your heart's content without any further intervention from the PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Incognito SIDE loader update I have here doesn't work for reasons unknown, so I've emailed Sebastian (again) asking him to send the whole lot over so I can release them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Correct. However, the only XEX updates currently available - to my knowledge - are my PBI BIOS update and the Incognito BIOS update Candle posted somewhere a while back. What the CPLD update coupled with the forthcoming SIDE loader update does enable you to do is put UFLASH and all your ROMs on the FAT partition of a CF card, run UFLASH direct from the loader, and the load and flash the ROMs right off the FAT. You can thus chop and change ROM slots to your heart's content without any further intervention from the PC. Neat. I guess I'll wait until you release that SIDE loader update. I still need to find someone nearby with a JTAG loader, or I guess I can send the board to someone if they're offering that service (anyone doing this?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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