Guitari Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Over on SMS power the original developer of the shelved Lemmings 2 has just released the roms for Game Gear and Master System. A massive gift to the Sega community. I haven't read the whole thread as it's quite lengthy but I've downloaded and played the roms which I think are complete. It makes me wonder, from a total layman's perspective, if it possible to port Lemmings 2 to Lynx and if so perhaps someone in the know could get in touch with the guy (Matt Taylor). Here's the link the to the thread and downloads http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=61168#61168 Interestingly while I was fishing through my Master System roms I found Rygar! I had no memory of finding this on the Master System - it has the same music and similar game play which you would expect of course. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetUK Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Thanks for posting this! Didn't know this had been released. I did wonder if it might be possible to hack the Lynx version and replace the levels with those from other in the series - eg. XMAS Lemmings, Easter Lemmings etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 No worries. Yes, that would be awesome! Hopefully someone will know if it's realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Level format is different and the lynx version does not support that many lemmings. thus you would have to re-edit the levels. Apart from that its easy to replace the levels... tehy are packed by a simple packer and can be unpacked changed and written back. same for the code table. as long as you do not want to change the 4*30 levels scheme and the graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Thanks Sage. that sounds positive. Maybe the developer can be persuaded to share his code to someone with lynx know-how... if it's easy to do so. It's all pie in the sky of course but think how great it would be to have lemmings 2 alongside your lemmings in your lynx collection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 lemmings 2 is different as you have different game play. new features etc. this is not a simple just replace the levels and codes thing loike in chips challenge or crystal mines 2. in chips challence the levels files were close to identical and still if you want to use the literally hundreds of available levels you have to carefully select the ones which do not exceed the limits of the lynx version. for lemmings its even worse you would have to "convert" the levels to a different binary format AND by that also check the gameplay of each level carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Interesting - thanks Sage - not so positive perhaps after all! Are the additional Chips Challenge levels available for the public somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetUK Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 That's why I said XMAS or Easter Lemmings, maybe Oh no more Lemmings (standard lemmings types etc), but would have to convert from ST or PC to whatever format the Lynx uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Interesting - thanks Sage - not so positive perhaps after all! Are the additional Chips Challenge levels available for the public somehow? Sure, but they are not from me thus I wont put them on cart. but you can use my script to create your own cart with the levels which you copy together. Well, and you have to check every level by hand if it fits to the lynx specs (which are much tigther than for the dos version).. You will find some helpfull links at the bottom of the following page: http://lynxdev.atari.org/blog/chips.xhtml Edited April 20, 2014 by sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 >That's why I said XMAS or Easter Lemmings, maybe Oh no more Lemmings (standard lemmings types etc), Sure. >but would have to convert from ST or PC to whatever format the Lynx uses. clever. how? lynx has different sized tiles/sprites. maybe even the tiles are different. At least the coordinates are different. seems the lynx does not support all features from the dos/amiga/atari format. amiga level file size: 2048 bytes, lynx 1024. they somehow "bit compressed" the level format. bite have different meaning etc... it will take a while to check that out. and then... you still do not have a level editor for the lynx. you just can hope that automatic conversion works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Sure, but they are not from me thus I wont put them on cart. but you can use my script to create your own cart with the levels which you copy together. Well, and you have to check every level by hand if it fits to the lynx specs (which are much tigther than for the dos version).. You will find some helpfull links at the bottom of the following page: http://lynxdev.atari.org/blog/chips.xhtml That's great that this is out there for those in the know. However I would have no idea when it comes to creating carts. I have crystal mines 2 buried treasure and so would also love to have extra chips challenge levels on cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 That's great that this is out there for those in the know. However I would have no idea when it comes to creating carts. thats the nice thing with the c4 script, it just patches an existing cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Wow, so in theory my spare chips challenge cart could be loaded with additional levels? That's an exciting prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 nope. we are talking about the bits and bytes of the rom, not the silicon itself. you would need a flash or eeprom (or SRAM) to write the patched rom content into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ah I see. I've been thinking about getting a flash cart. I need to look into it a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Anyway, you want emulation for testing , too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ever2600 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Concerning the Master system rom, are you sure it was Rygar and not Rastan? Never knew Rygar for sms, unless only released outside the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Anyway, you want emulation for testing , too.... I have Handy but the chances of me doing anything technical other than loading a ROM to a flash cart are pretty slim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Concerning the Master system rom, are you sure it was Rygar and not Rastan? Never knew Rygar for sms, unless only released outside the US? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3njTjQNFo It's actually for the Sega Mark 3 console which I understand is the same as the SMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'd be surprised if the Lynx coder hadn't started working on Lemmings 2 before commercial Lynx development ended. It's been years since I've seen the end credits for the game, but didn't he include a special plea for funding the sequel in it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'd be surprised if the Lynx coder hadn't started working on Lemmings 2 before commercial Lynx development ended. It's been years since I've seen the end credits for the game, but didn't he include a special plea for funding the sequel in it? Wow, sounds interesting. Let's hope lemmings 2 might surface in the same way that it did for GG!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ever2600 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3njTjQNFo It's actually for the Sega Mark 3 console which I understand is the same as the SMS. Interesting! I never knew... Thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitari Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Interesting! I never knew... Thanks for the link! no worries! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmillortoni Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) I really think the programmer would be interested in releasing a Lemmings 2 rom for the Lynx. Remember how he ends his looooooooooong Lemmings' credits: enjoy your lynx. it is the best of all of the hand held portable machines. only with your support can we produce software for this lovely little piece of hardware with a goal keeping the machine alive and kicking well i may not have plans to do anything in the immediate future on the lynx, but if it is still around in a few years maybe I'll do lemmings ii on it. then again maybe not i suppose i would have to be mad to attempt it but then again anyone who attempts a major programming feat using a 6502 must be mad but don't forget the lovely hardware this little machine can do more to the display than an amiga can thanks to rj mical and his team for being insane enough to design such a nice piece of hardware and having the foresight to produce their development software on the amiga maybe it's because they had something to do with that as well? bye... So, why can't we dream? Edited May 6, 2014 by elmillortoni 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX.NET Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Has anyone a contact address (email or otherwise) of the programmer? We could contact him, right? He might have the original source code. The original development environment is "easy" to arrange. So, who knows. Ys, we can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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