Gazoo Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Seems like everyone has a piece of the puzzle. I just want to buy those two game carts (or four if they can't be combined, not sure if that switch job was custom). I don't have the ability to burn my own chips or solder anything like this. So between the four game carts, which games are still missing? I'm talking about EA games. Do you want those two cart shells? I've undone them in favor of having single carts that are a little bit more authentic looking. A buck each plus postage? (a priority mail small box is about 5 bucks postage) Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Do you want those two cart shells? I've undone them in favor of having single carts that are a little bit more authentic looking. A buck each plus postage? (a priority mail small box is about 5 bucks postage) Where would those wires need to be soldered to switch between the two carts? Does the standard board support this or is it a different board? I'm not sure which of the boards I need to make the multicarts (512K boards, Black boards, UberRom boards, etc.). Actually, your 'authentic' carts look nice. I wouldn't mind four separate carts, but I'd assume that combining them into two with the switch would be cheaper (not sure what the boards run)? Would you be willing to sell me some of the programmed chips for the game carts? If so, then it sounds like I just need to get my hands on the appropriate boards (maybe I can get those from Ksarul?) and slap the chips in. BTW which games are still missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Where would those wires need to be soldered to switch between the two carts? Does the standard board support this or is it a different board? I'm not sure which of the boards I need to make the multicarts (512K boards, Black boards, UberRom boards, etc.). Actually, your 'authentic' carts look nice. I wouldn't mind four separate carts, but I'd assume that combining them into two with the switch would be cheaper (not sure what the boards run)? Would you be willing to sell me some of the programmed chips for the game carts? If so, then it sounds like I just need to get my hands on the appropriate boards (maybe I can get those from Ksarul?) and slap the chips in. BTW which games are still missing? The new version 512k boards have holes to solder the wires to when used with a 1 meg eprom, unfortunately I don't have any more and I'm not planning on purchasing any more so I can't program them for you. If I have any chips left after Chicago I'll most likely post them for sale here, but there are others here that can program chips and sell them, all the code has been posted here with the exception of the final code for the XB v2.7 Suite cart and anyone is welcome to have at it. Ksarul is the source for the boards, so contact him regarding what you want. If you don't have any soldering skills, perhaps it's best that you just get the 512k boards and chips and 'slap them together'. I don't know what games are missing, I've asked and I'm waiting for someone to tell me. At this point someone would need to send me the code for any more games because I've pretty much exhausted everything I could find (that works). And there would need to be enough of them to fill up a good percentage of another 512k cart. Gazoo Edited October 22, 2014 by Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I don't know what games are missing, I've asked and I'm waiting for someone to tell me. At this point someone would need to send me the code for any more games because I've pretty much exhausted everything I could find (that works). And there would need to be enough of them to fill up a good percentage of another 512k cart. Gazoo Which games don't work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Which games don't work? I don't know as I didn't make a list. If it didn't work, I moved on to the next one - there's a lot of bad image files out there. As long as it loads as straight memory image files from EA5, it'll work in a cartridge (unless it does some wacky stuff with the EA GPL code). Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Tempest, I can probably build four of the game cartridges for you after the Chicago faire. You definitely need Red boards for 512K images. I'd have to build them as 512K carts, as I don't have any one meg chips. As Gazoo noted, the switches connect to a pair of holes made for that purpose on the current revision of the Red boards. Add a 2.2K Ohm resistor and voila, the board is now set up to be used with a 1M EPROM (as two 512K switched zones). I also have plenty of labels for them (I used the same files to generate them at StickerYou as Gazoo did), so yours would also have that nice retro look to them. PM me if you are interested. I will probably have to order a new batch of boards after Chicago, as I assembled all but 5-10 of the Red boards I have on hand (and all but 3 of the Black boards I had left). I still have plenty of ÜberGROM boards though (something in the vicinity of 100 or so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I don't know as I didn't make a list. If it didn't work, I moved on to the next one - there's a lot of bad image files out there. As long as it loads as straight memory image files from EA5, it'll work in a cartridge (unless it does some wacky stuff with the EA GPL code). Gazoo Hmm... I'll have to look at your menus and see what games are missing. Maybe a Games 5 can be made if good rom images are found? Tempest, I can probably build four of the game cartridges for you after the Chicago faire. You definitely need Red boards for 512K images. I'd have to build them as 512K carts, as I don't have any one meg chips. As Gazoo noted, the switches connect to a pair of holes made for that purpose on the current revision of the Red boards. Add a 2.2K Ohm resistor and voila, the board is now set up to be used with a 1M EPROM (as two 512K switched zones). I also have plenty of labels for them (I used the same files to generate them at StickerYou as Gazoo did), so yours would also have that nice retro look to them. PM me if you are interested. I will probably have to order a new batch of boards after Chicago, as I assembled all but 5-10 of the Red boards I have on hand (and all but 3 of the Black boards I had left). I still have plenty of ÜberGROM boards though (something in the vicinity of 100 or so). PM Sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I looked at your four game carts and you're missing several games. I'm 99% sure all the roms for these are out there. Is there a reason none of the Atarisoft titles were included? 4A Flyer A-Maze-Ing Alpiner Ambulance Angler Dangler Astro Fighter Beyond Parsec Buck Rogers Burgertime Cave Creatures (I think the rom is out there) Centipede Championship Baseball Defender Demon Attack (and the proto with the different voice) Dig Dug Donkey Kong Fantasy Jungle Hunt Killer Caterpillar King of the Castle Love Tennis Micro Pinball (same as pinball?) Micro Tennis Microsurgeon Midnite Mason Mission X Moon Patrol Ms. Pac-Man Munch Mobile Pac-Man Paddle Ball Parsec Pole Position Protector II Rabbit Trail Return to Pirates Isle River Rescue Robotron 2084 Schnoz Ola Sewermania Shamus Super Storm (slime) Sneggit Space Bandits Space Patrol Star Runner Starship Pegasus Super Fly TI Invaders TI Toad Tile Breaker Trashman (same as Jumpman?) Tunnels of Doom Wing War Also the following games are duplicated: Crossfire Driving Demon Mouse Attack Chicken Coop (same thing as Henpecked) Also (and I *know* I'm nitpicking here), are Star Gazer I, II, and III really games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Also (and I *know* I'm nitpicking here), are Star Gazer I, II, and III really games? There's a lot of stuff that made it in that needs to be relegated to Crap Cart #1,#2, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gazoo has done a great job. Remo and Tempest, feel freee to put together your own cartridges. I've got a bunch of the ones you mentioned in EPROM files that will go very nocely in one of the Guidry cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gazoo has done a great job. Remo and Tempest, feel freee to put together your own cartridges. It wasn't an indictment, just an observation. I've been very thankful for the work Gazoo put into it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Gazoo has done a great job. Remo and Tempest, feel freee to put together your own cartridges. I'm not faulting Gazoo's cartridges in the least (told you I was nitpickng on the Star Gazer thing), I'm just letting him know what's still missing since he didn't keep a list. I've got a bunch of the ones you mentioned in EPROM files that will go very nocely in one of the Guidry cartridges. How hard is it to actually make your own multicarts once you got the boards? I'll be honest, I didn't look into that. I do have a super old EPROM programmer (uses a parallel port) that *might* work, but if there's a lot of other 'voodoo' that has to happen behind the scenes then I may still be out of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 How hard is it to actually make your own multicarts once you got the boards? If you've got the boards and eproms you just need to burn Gazoo's files (if you don't plan on changing the cart images) - it's a snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If you've got the boards and eproms you just need to burn Gazoo's files (if you don't plan on changing the cart images) - it's a snap. Yeah I'd be changing the cartridge image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yeah I'd be changing the cartridge image. That would be significantly more effort. Gazoo released his methodology and code earlier in the thread http://atariage.com/forums/topic/224528-setting-up-a-512k-cart/page-7?do=findComment&comment=3008202 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 That would be significantly more effort. Gazoo released his methodology and code earlier in the thread http://atariage.com/forums/topic/224528-setting-up-a-512k-cart/page-7?do=findComment&comment=3008202 I'll have to look at that. Looks like that list he put up there has many of the missing games. Did he never make this game cart? i wonder how many carts it would take to hold all the games? The boards are 512K and IIRC the roms can't be more than 8K (16K if they're a sidecar one). Forgive me if my questions are stupid, hardware isn't my area of expertise and my knowledge of the inner workings of the TI99 are very limited. I'm going off my experience with other systems. EDIT: Ah, I may have found my answer (this was several pages back): The limit is 512k minus 8k for the menu program. Individual programs can be anywhere from 8k to 32k in size. The limitation is that is has to be an ea5 program for the way I'm doing it. It's possible to put some c>6000 single bank carts in there, depending on the length of the menu name. So the game has to be available in EA 5 format, that would explain some of the missing games and the increased sizes. I wonder if the non-EA 5 games would work as Single Bank Carts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I looked at your four game carts and you're missing several games. I'm 99% sure all the roms for these are out there. Is there a reason none of the Atarisoft titles were included? 4A Flyer A-Maze-Ing Alpiner Ambulance Angler Dangler Astro Fighter Beyond Parsec Buck Rogers Burgertime Cave Creatures (I think the rom is out there) Centipede Championship Baseball Defender Demon Attack (and the proto with the different voice) Dig Dug Donkey Kong Fantasy Jungle Hunt Killer Caterpillar King of the Castle Love Tennis Micro Pinball (same as pinball?) Micro Tennis Microsurgeon Midnite Mason Mission X Moon Patrol Ms. Pac-Man Munch Mobile Pac-Man Paddle Ball Parsec Pole Position Protector II Rabbit Trail Return to Pirates Isle River Rescue Robotron 2084 Schnoz Ola Sewermania Shamus Super Storm (slime) Sneggit Space Bandits Space Patrol Star Runner Starship Pegasus Super Fly TI Invaders TI Toad Tile Breaker Trashman (same as Jumpman?) Tunnels of Doom Wing War Also the following games are duplicated: Crossfire Driving Demon Mouse Attack Chicken Coop (same thing as Henpecked) Also (and I *know* I'm nitpicking here), are Star Gazer I, II, and III really games? Maybe you'd better look again. Most of the games you listed are on the carts. And I'm pretty sure I included all the Atarisoft carts. Gazoo Edited October 23, 2014 by Gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Maybe you'd better look again. Most of the games you listed are on the carts. And I'm pretty sure I included all the Atarisoft carts. Gazoo I was just going off the posted screenshots. I guess I missed a bunch then. Got lists of what are on each one? I can edit my 'missing list' then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 I was just going off the posted screenshots. I guess I missed a bunch then. Got lists of what are on each one? I can edit my 'missing list' then. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/230510-gazoos-gaming-goodies-game-carts/?do=findComment&comment=3086862 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudaSales Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I purchased all 4 Game Carts and the Utilities Cart and have to say that they are priceless. It is so much appreciated What Gazoo and everyone else has done with these Collections. I cant even imagine how much time went into this. I would love to buy some labels if anyone happens to have some that they want to sell and ship. Thanks again for all your work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/230510-gazoos-gaming-goodies-game-carts/?do=findComment&comment=3086862 Ah ha! Perfect! I missed the first one completely. So now it looks like the only missing games are (if I'm not mistaken again): Alpiner Angler Dangler Astro Fighter Beyond Parsec Championship Baseball Fantasy Killer Caterpillar King of the Castle Microsurgeon Mission X Munch Mobile Return to Pirates Isle Robotron 2084 Schnoz Ola Sewermania Super Storm (slime) Sneggit Space Bandits Space Patrol Star Runner Starship Pegasus Super Fly Tile Breaker Tunnels of Doom Wing War More than enough for one more cart if you're willing (assuming the roms exist in the right format) Also, the following games are duplicated on Games 2 Chicken Coop (same thing as Henpecked) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ah ha! Perfect! I missed the first one completely. So now it looks like the only missing games are (if I'm not mistaken again): Alpiner Angler Dangler Astro Fighter Beyond Parsec Championship Baseball Fantasy Killer Caterpillar King of the Castle Microsurgeon Mission X Munch Mobile Return to Pirates Isle Robotron 2084 Schnoz Ola Sewermania Super Storm (slime) Sneggit Space Bandits Space Patrol Star Runner Starship Pegasus Super Fly Tile Breaker Tunnels of Doom Wing War More than enough for one more cart if you're willing (assuming the roms exist in the right format) Also, the following games are duplicated on Games 2 Chicken Coop (same thing as Henpecked) Not a problem to make another cart. All I need are those files in EA5 format. Gazoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Not a problem to make another cart. All I need are those files in EA5 format. Gazoo I think some of those are because I have them on my CF7+. Some of them may be EA3 or XB though. I can look into this this weekend if no one else is interested. I assume you looked through TI Game Shelf already? Are the current four carts full or can more be added to those? I'm not sure if they're limited by your menu system or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazoo Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 I think some of those are because I have them on my CF7+. Some of them may be EA3 or XB though. I can look into this this weekend if no one else is interested. I assume you looked through TI Game Shelf already? Are the current four carts full or can more be added to those? I'm not sure if they're limited by your menu system or something like that. XB files won't work. EA3 must be converted to EA5. All 4 carts are full. The menu can be adjusted to fit what's on a cart, about 15 or 16 paged menu screens can fit into the 32k expansion memory space, so somewhere about 256 menu entries would be the max I would imagine. I don't know much (if anything) about TI Game Shelf, as I'm not a gamer. I was doing this as a programming exercise after doing the utilities cart, and found it fairly challenging and quite rewarding. Gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz442 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Not a problem to make another cart. All I need are those files in EA5 format. Gazoo I would love to see TOD and Adventure modules added to the next cart. I assume you could still load the game files from Disk or Cassette? Also, Thanks Gazoo and ALL who have contributed to these carts, these are awesome!!! Are these the correct files you would need? ADVENTURE.zip Edited October 23, 2014 by Fritz442 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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