+groundtrooper Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I downloaded this recently and I had no issues with Windows Defender or Webroot Anti-Virus. I think you may have got a false positive. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skel28 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I just re-downloaded and scanned with an up to date Kaspersky, nothing found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Yeah. I just did that too. But Windows Defender keeps flagging it. Much like Alternative Facts in the news, how do we know which is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 What other virus checkers do you use? And just to be clear I'd say the gamepack is the real news here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I have Kaspersky. And I agree, Kaspersky doesn't seem to detect it, and I'm not trying to spread FUD. I'm just concerned that Windows Defender flags it. Can anyone else confirm that their version of Windows Defender also flags it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 For what it's worth, Microsoft Safety Scanner does not detect it as a threat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) Well as I have said, I am using defender and have the very latest definitions from yesterday and its not flagging it.. And just for the final bit.. The little problem here is that you are not entertaining from the responses and proofs it could be at your end, please 100% check that.... (was edited to remove a more coarse answer) its a project I'm proud to have been part of and its been thoroughly checked, I've supplied the Windows defender scans with dates just to prove its obviously something to do at your end.. Edited February 19, 2017 by Mclaneinc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I use Windows defender and downloaded it last week with no problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 @Toddtmw, please let me know if you find out what was causing it please.. No one wants to find stuff on their machine, I myself recently thanks to Chrome got a secure search bar installed (wondered why my searches started on Google and then suddenly went to bing...) Cured with a quick run of Malware bytes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 @mclaneinc I'm not trying to raise false claims. As I stated in my original post, after downloading it last night, the .exe file was gone today and it was in the Windows Defender quarantine. This is a brand new Windows 10 install (Created 2/5) that is running in a VM on my Mac. The only thing installed on here is Altirra and the Win800 emulator. All things that are on here were downloaded from my Mac and then copied to Windows. I downloaded the 1.1.0 file and then manually copied the contents of the 1.2.0 update into the correct places in the 1.1.0 folder structure and then I copied that to my Windows install. This is the ONLY file in the Defender quarantine. I have no evidence that anything else on my machine is infected. I went back and unzipped both files and the file in the 1.1.0 zip does not flag, but the file that Defender thinks is infected is in the 1.2.0 update - beta 3.zip. I cannot even unzip that file under Windows. It will not complete. If I unzip it on my Mac and try to copy it to Windows, it will not let me because it says it is dangerous. Also, my Windows Defender definitions are newer than yours. I have 1.235.3159.0 File Copy Error Defender Version Quarantine I have tried testing this file with other online checkers and none of them think this file is malicious. I realize false-positives happen, but I would like someone to at least check the .exe from the update zip file with the latest Defender definitions to make sure. Thank you. -Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) I'm afraid that running OS's under emulation on another hardware really complicates the matter, not because it should not work but because it adds so many variables. Windows 10 in itself raises enough questions to worry but under emulation on another machine worries me greatly... Is there a way you can get to virus check the files on a REAL windows 7 machine or at worst a real Windows 10 machine, I personally rarely run non windows environments but I have as seen offered real proof these files under windows 7 etc show no problems, its still the fact that the Windows Defender you run and the verified screens from earlier tonight seem to differ in what you find. On real hardware here they are 100% safe and I need to point that out for the current users of the gamepack so they feel safe and are not panicked.. I hope you see my reasoning...If it was unsafe I'd be the first to scream it! What is also odd is that I kind of thought it might be the A8 updater / runner on the outside of the gamepack but its turns out its the gamepack exe itself which I've ran so many times over the years its amazing my keyboard / mouse still works, its never been an issue ever, with the A8 exe outside it asks to install another update but I checked that too as its un needed but I wanted to be thorough.. And to 100% reply to the last post you made I posted screens up till 18:01 tonight showing the latest definitions etc to prove the point... Edited February 19, 2017 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Todd, I'll ask a real expert on this in the morning, someone who knows exactly the possibilities but please try and do as suggested and get a real machine to process these files rather than emulation.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Did you try scanning the .exe in the update zip file with the latest Defender definitions? In the meantime, I do have a real Windows laptop. (Sorry, running Windows 10, Microsoft upgraded it for me...) Again, I cannot even copy the file to it because it says there is a virus. The only way I can scan it is to leave it on the network share from my Mac and right-click and tell defender to scan it. So, since I cannot copy it frm my Mac to the Windows machine and since I couldn't unzip it either, I went back to the web site on my Windows laptop and downloaded the file again. (The 1.2.0 update - beta 3.zip) The update completed and I unzipped it. It said Windows Defender has found some malware and removed it. The folder it tried to unzip to is empty. Again, this is a fresh download on an actual Windows 10 laptop with the latest Windows Defender definitions. Like I said, I'm not saying this isn't a false alarm (sorry for all the compund negatives in that sentence), I just don't know what to trust. Thanks. Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akator Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I just downloaded the GamePack on a Windows 10 machine with the latest Defender definitions. It did not report anything wrong with the files. I then ran a manual scan and it did not report anything wrong with the files. I then extracted the files. Still no problems. I then ran another manual scan. Still no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I just downloaded the GamePack on a Windows 10 machine with the latest Defender definitions. It did not report anything wrong with the files. I then ran a manual scan and it did not report anything wrong with the files. I then extracted the files. Still no problems. I then ran another manual scan. Still no problems. Did you download the update beta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akator Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Did you download the update beta? Yes. Windows Defender did not detect any problems on my computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Both Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 what, if it is a link virus? it could have infected the file, after downloading...?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 what, if it is a link virus? it could have infected the file, after downloading...?! I re-downloaded it again today. 3 different AV Program scans pick up nothing for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Todd, its not helping that you asked me if I scanned the file with the latest defender definition yet I'd posted screen grabs 6 posts earlier, ie you are not reading the posts 100%. Can I thank all the folks who have taken a chance and downloaded and verified the files as free from viruses, considering how there was a chance of a virus I really appreciate the faith and checking of the gamepack, thank you.. Todd, I think you should listen to Stefan on this, there's a real possibility of two things, a link virus as he says or a rather odd false positive being triggered by multiple items scanning the same file at once via real time protection, possibly as one scans the other tries the same and finds a hook so throws up an alert?? I'm no virus specialist but I really think its nothing to do with the files that are up there, they have been checked by so many people via the same program you use and many others yet you are the only one getting a virus warning which for me pretty much points 100% at your machine setup or the possibility of a nasty being on there. Paul. PS, you are getting these files from the official link on the first page of this thread? You only need the two files linked, Unzip the main one and then unzip and over write the 2nd one, and run the gamepack exe, some people run the a8.exe which is Starwindz updater which was stopped being used shortly before the last update, the upodater if ran will suggest a version 1.15 needs to be downloaded because it does not find the ini for it in the updater buy Starwindz told me that all the files needed for a full set were in the first two files in the download and the updated 1.15 was part of that. Edited February 20, 2017 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Just looked at the virus based on your post and its 2yrs old at the very least, the point being there's almost zero chance over that time it would not have triggered pretty much every virus database out there between the numerous installs the gamepack has had, even the most free and not so hot virus checker would have spotted it let alone Kaspersky which yours does not, only defender and again, only your defender. I know its worrying not knowing why its triggering on your machine and I hope we find out so to warn others of whatever might be causing this but the trail always leads back to your machine / setup. I've asked a friend who is super knowledgeable if they can think of any issues via VM that could cause this especially as Win 10 is involved and if they have enough time I may hear back but I also ask any guys reading this on the forum if they can think of a way a mix of Mac, VM and win 10 may cause a trigger. It would be very easy for Starwindz and I to say, hey, not our problem clearly but it would be good to find the cause both for you and us. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Hi. Thanks everyone for your time and attention to this. It's clear that there is something up with Windows Defender. However, @Mclaneinc, I am not the one not reading the posts. Todd, its not helping that you asked me if I scanned the file with the latest defender definition yet I'd posted screen grabs 6 posts earlier, ie you are not reading the posts 100%. Your screenshot shows this definition version: 1.235.3056.0 My screenshot (and the body of my post) shows this definition version: 1.235.3159.0 Also, I've said several times that I cannot find another virus scan program that agrees with Windows Defender, so it is clearly a Windows Defender issue, not an issue with this fine compilation of Atari games. I downloaded it from this page: http://atari800.tistory.com/category/Download Using this the link: Download For now, I'm just using the 1.1.0 version. It does not flag and seems to work pretty well. (I really don't have a choice, I can't get the 1.2.0 version on my computer because Windows Defender will not let me put it there.) Again, Thanks to everyone for their attention. You cannot be too careful these days with Viruses. -Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Well Windows defender itself says when checking updates as of 1 min ago that 3056 IS the latest and last update created on the 17th... One wonders if there's a special set of definitions for Windows 10 or you have a rogue update..3159 does not exist according to Defender....I'm on Win 7 X64, other may wish to see what definition they have installed... Two captures from today in the last 2 mins, one is the scan and the other the update status..Note the version number Edited February 20, 2017 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madi Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 May I suggest that someone who downloaded the GamePack package from the same link (today) to attach the "a8_best_gamepack.exe" file that is under discussion for toddtmw to download and post the result. Maybe something happen when toddtmw was downloading and the file got corrupted.. madi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 May I suggest that someone who downloaded the GamePack package from the same link (today) to attach the "a8_best_gamepack.exe" file that is under discussion for toddtmw to download and post the result. Maybe something happen when toddtmw was downloading and the file got corrupted.. madi OK I extracted the one I downloaded yesterday. Here is a link to it on OneDrive. a8_best_gamepack.exe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 OK I extracted the one I downloaded yesterday. Here is a link to it on OneDrive. a8_best_gamepack.exe This appears to be the file fron the 1.1.o zip, not the 1.2.0 update zip. This file scans fine with Defender. It's the one from 1.2.0 update that flags. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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