DocRotCod Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I've been poking around and searching, but haven't really come up with any answers so I figured this was the best place to start. 1) Does the current BIOS update work for both REV. C and REV. D? 2) Was compatibility improved on REV. D with CF cards? I have a transcend card that didn't work too well with C but seems to work with D. 3) If I want more stability from a power standpoint, can I still connect external power to the IDE 2.0 AND have it connected to an XE or will I blow something out? Thanks! Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 1) Yes 2) Yes 3) It shouldn't blow anything, but external PSU should be turn-on simultaneously or after computer PSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I hope Konrad will find some time to add extra functionality to IDE+ 2.0 Bios. It's one of the greatest hard disk interfaces for atari 8bit, and with some slight adjustments in Bios it could be best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRotCod Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Ok then, here's another question. I have had virtually no issues with CF cards on Rev. D. But I've had numerous issues on Rev. C with the same cards. Is there something I can do to fix that on Rev. C? I've just tried a BIOS update and that didn't seem to help. If not, can you guys RECOMMEND a specific brand/size CF card? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I have a Rev C, and I have had consistent good luck with Kingston 2GB modules. Same modules I use in my SIDE, SIDE2, Incognito, and IDE 2+. Never had an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I have 2 Rev C's, one works great on all of my CF cards 512MB-8GB that I also use on my SIDE carts. The other Rev C doesn't play well with CF cards, but works just fine on a real 2 GB hard drive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRotCod Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Now that *IS* odd. Wonder why one Rev C would act differently than another Rev C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Non-deterministic behaviour outside the recommended conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I have one of the Rev D interfaces I believe on my 130XE. I have used a pretty wide variety of drives with mine without external power.... started with a 1.2GB ancient IDE 2.5" drive from an *OLD* thinkpad.... then got a dual CF adapter because the screen dimming was pretty annoying. I have both a 4GB Microdrive (real HDD... just really tiny) and an old Sandisk 128MB CF card plugged into the adapter at this point and with Slave support enabled it actually works. But... when the MicroDrive is accessed I get the same screen dimming effect (though not as bad). With external power it would probably be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I've got two "C" and 2 "D." All work great with everything I've got in the way of storage. My biggest card is 2 GB Transcend Industrial CF. I don't care for 2.5" drives, although they work fine (powered through the +2 power socket). But I do like and use 1.8" drives. The best 1.8" that I've found is the Hitachi. My 20 GB has the same pin arrangement as 2.5", so no adapters needed. Ultra-low power (for a drive). Fast! Fits very nicely on the IDE+2. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I just use SD cards with an adaptor. Lower cost, I doubt the speed suffers much, and reliability seems fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I just use SD cards with an adaptor. Lower cost, I doubt the speed suffers much, and reliability seems fine. Which SD adapter are you using? Is a firmware update required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) I was using one of these (which I've currently "loaned out"), but it worked great with IDE Plus 2.0. No need for firmware updates, since it just interfaces the SD card with the IDE protocols internally: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Speed-SD-SDHC-SDXC-to-CompactFlash-CF-Type-II-Card-Adapter-Support-UDMA-/291002527351?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_PDAsAccessories_MemoryCards&hash=item43c11a2e77 Oh, and I still have one of these, which plugs straight into the IDE connector and does the exact same thing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SD-to-2-5-IDE-ATA-Converter-Adapter-Secure-Digital-44-/290373959850?pt=UK_Computing_Drive_Cables_Adapters&hash=item439ba300aa Edited July 20, 2014 by flashjazzcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Yep, just an eBay cheapy. The firmware on mine... I've not used the entire machine for a while so it's probably well out of date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I love IDE+2.0 It's simply perfect. But anyone knows that 65 kbytes of extended 130XE memory is insufficient for IDE+2.0 working perfectly with it's all sophisticated drivers. I hope that we need ALL memory onboard on IDE+2.0. Really I don't know is it possible. But a chance... What's about new revision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 128K Ram should be OK - it's SpartaDos that likes plenty of RAM, the actual IDE +2 footprint is practically nothing, IIRC it has some internal RAM which it uses for buffer + workspace and the internal ROM doesn't intrude at all - the beauty of the PBI model is that by design the driver ROM can overlay the FP ROM when it's needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hi Rybags. I said about IDE+2.0 Sparta Dos X drivers of course. Best Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I never use SDX, so I can't say… Without SDX this interface is excellent. Full access to my 128K in my XE. (ehm I mean… full access of the 320K in my XE grin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I tend to agree with 130XE: a version of the board with some RAM would make sense, since the advanced features of SDX do start to eat up the banks, and many facilities of the IDE Plus 2.0 (RTC, 512 byte sectors) are geared towards the use of SDX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I get by OK with a stock 130XE w/ IDEPlus w/ DOSKEY and such loaded under SDX. Only have issues when I try to load the bigger XE cart conversions and such. 64K can be really tight though. On a 64K machine I'd probably go with a different DOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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